The crew that makes up who says what and who says what stays and goes,
etc,
all voted and it came out a tie and had to be broken. That alone told me enough that half the Debian crew thought it was a bad idea. That's what I looked at and I'll take that to heart.
Emotions are involved here, please read the final paragraph to find out what I think about that. You are correct the vote was 4-4, 4 of the votes were employees of Canonical who created Upstart and upstart got 4 votes from those very same people. The other 4 votes had no ties at all to another distro or a pay packet.
You might want to post up some proof Linus is allowing that abortion into
his
kernel. I haven't heard anything about that yet.
Emotions again, please read the final paragraph to find out what I think about that. If you haven't heard it then why did Linus remove KS's upload privileges? If it wasn't because of his systemd uploads into the kernel, and the subsequent kernel crash issue and a coupe of bugs that everyone involved denied there coding was at fault, what was it for?
Now that is out of the way I'll comment on the emotional side of your reply., I am not interested in getting into an emotional slanging match. I don't want to go there and would appreciate it if you didn't go there with me. I'm interested in facts not emotions." Taking things to heart" and calling things "abortions" are akin to emotional blackmail and it really does lower the discussion to the lowest common denominator
On 18 September 2014 15:42, TN Patriot irgunii@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 12:51:09 +1000 "Michael ." keltoiboy@gmail.com wrote:
I avoid, like the plague, discussions about systemd purely because of the FUD, emotional outbursts, and general scaremongering that I see in discussions about systemd. This time I'm not going to avoid it because of all the groups I take part in this one (and one other DE group) appear
to
be very level headed and talk facts.
Ok here's my take on systemd and Debian. Debian is the 2nd oldest of the still current distros. It has remained a cornerstone of the Linux
community
and a parent to 300+ distros for many years because of the good choices made by the Debian community. You don't get a position of strength like Debian has in the FOSS world with a track record of making poor choices.
The crew that makes up who says what and who says what stays and goes, etc, all voted and it came out a tie and had to be broken. That alone told me enough that half the Debian crew thought it was a bad idea. That's what I looked at and I'll take that to heart.
You might want to post up some proof Linus is allowing that abortion into his kernel. I haven't heard anything about that yet.
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