On Friday 18 October 2019 20:01:17 Larry Stotler wrote:
Hello folks,
Been using TDE on openSUSE for a while(and S.u.S.E since v5.3 *sigh*) but I think it's time to move to a non systemD infested distro. I'm not here to debate the merits of it, I've made my decision and I'm looking for advice from those that run TDE on distros that don't use systemD.
There's Devuan(never really been a fan of Debian or uBuntu tho). I'm just afraid that Devuan won't be able to keep up.
Would love to go back to Slackware, but it seems the lastest version is 3.5.13ish??
Anyway, if you use a non-systemD distro, please let me know how TDE works on it.
Thanx
Hi there. Here is a list of those of which I have at least some experience. I hope this helps.
Bill
I went through several attempts, none totally successful, to run TDE with Debian on an old machine. There is a whole list of them here: https://devuan.org/os/partners/devuan-distros
1. ExeGnuLinux - TDE is the default The first no-systemd OS I heard about was ExeGnuLinux, based on Devuan. They say all the right things, and their installer *seems* to work pretty well (although it is quite different from the minimalist "classic" Debian-type installers); however, I never could get it to run properly, or even to boot up at all after installation. http://exegnulinux.net/
2. AntiX - TDE is the default Also, AntiX was pretty good, and I believe I remember that it is no-systemd. It was small, fast, not unattractive, seemed stable, etc. However, it would not let me configure internal SATA hdds on a Frankenstein desktop that I build out of spare parts; I might have been able to do that using gparted or parted, etc., after installation, but that's a bother. It seems that this distro was developed by, and for, people who run laptops or similar setups, who maybe cannot imagine anybody out there who is still running a desktop. And last, it changed the permissions in my home folder; perhaps for the better, but again, I like to be in control, even if I sometimes mess it up. https://antixlinux.com/
3. Devuan NETINST - no TDE choice in menu - I use MATE during installation. I tried Devuan as soon as it came out, but it wasn't until I tried the NETINST CD that everything seemed to click, and I haven't had any major problems for a year or more. For me it works best when I install TDE later, after pretty much everything else. https://devuan.org/os/ https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install https://files.devuan.org/?ref=/os/download
I have almost no complaints, as it is a very stable system. I would like to see a Devuan installation disc (esp., a NETINST CD), so that I could have my TDE desktop right away, then continue with installing the rest of my packages. When I upgrade my distribution, as just recently, some of my personalized configurations are changed; for example, my customized login screen, as well as some other niggling but nagging quirks or maybe bugs. I am forced to bounce back and forth between using tdenetworkmanager and wicd-gtk as to control my network connection and settings. For some reason, about every third time I reinstall, I have to change from using one or the other. There are a few other weird things that I am trying to figure out, but they are not irritating enough that I should tell all the readers on the TDE mailing list. Over all, this has been my choice now for quite a while, and it has been maybe 6 months since I've had to reinstall my system or deal with any major problems.
4. Linnix - based on Devuan, no TDE, but supposed to be for users who "like to customize" their desktops. I have a disc of the latest release. Again, it sounds good; but I only sort of half-remember booting it up, then going back to my stable Devuan system.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/linnix/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/linnix/files/
5. Heads - the Devuan version of Tails I tried out Tails a few years ago, and it worked pretty well. I would hope that the Devuan version, Heads, works as well or better. I don't have a system to set up with Heads at the moment; I don't know if it's possible to install Heads or Tails in the way of most Linux systems. I did try booting it up, but I would have needed to change my partitions, etc., so I didn't continue. I was thinking of giving it another try, once I manage to put together a few other machines into a network. Seems to work like Tails, though. https://heads.dyne.org/