3 Feb
2019
3 Feb
'19
6:43 p.m.
On Sunday 03 February 2019 17:05:43 Michael wrote:
This is a good idea. Or just gut an old desktop or laptop. I have often run a
desktop computer, with four internal hard drives, all kinds of peripherals,
etc., and all of it running from a 250 GB laptop hdd that I salvaged. In
fact, that is what I am running right now.
Bill
On Sunday 03 February 2019 04:05:36 pm Thierry de
Coulon wrote:
> On Sunday 03 February 2019 19.21:34 phiebie(a)drei.at wrote:
> > Debian Buster, KDE 3.5.10. aptitude
> > As more and more software-updates clash with their dependencies against
> > what KDE needs or provides, I wanted to install trinity, preliminary
> > stable, alongside KDE. KDE should stay operational till I had
> > transferred my settings and programs aso to trinity.
> > No go!
> > Tdebase was fetched and seemingly installed, but when I restarted the
> > computer and wanted to start KDE, there was only a black screen with
> > the mouse-cursor and whatever I did with keyboard or mouse, nothing
> > happened. Cold reboot to clear memory, same thing.
> > Okay, let's then have a look at trinity. A blue screen with the logo
> > appeared and after a few seconds something like "no ..... available
> > check your installation"and I only could close that window via a warm
> > reboot. KDE gave me the black screen again and also TDE said
> > "check installation".
> > Installed TDE again, same results as before. Half an afternoon had
> > passed with no desktop still available.
> > Glad, that I had backupped my system before the experiment and could
> > restore my working KDE.
> > So there's also a clash between TDE and KDE, incredible!
> > Where should I look for the culprit for this disaster?
> > Kind regards.
>
> OK, so...
>
> a) You say Buster. Where did you install TDE from? What version? As far
> as I know, for Buster you need the premilinary builds.
>
> b) You say KDE 3.5.10. I seem to remember that install instructions said
> to purge any KDE 3.5 elements befor install. So yes, KDE 3.5 and TDE
> clash. It's known. I guess that's because thes share files with the same
> name, but different contents.
>
Yes, I didn't mean to try both KDE3 and TDE as desktops for the same
installation. Maybe I misread; I thought he meant KDE4 or beyond, along side
TDE. Yes, KDE3 will screw you up.
However, I have done a dual boot, with KDE3 (Hardy Heron 8.04.2) on a separate
partition, and TDE and some other DEs on the other partition; and that worked
pretty well. My reason for running KDE3 in Hardy is that it was my most
stable system, and I wanted to modify KDE3 settings to work in TDE.
Oh, and an aside for Michael: I have managed to sift through my settings, and
my current machine is *almost* exactly, perfectly, like my old KDE3 Hardy
box; only better in many ways.
I only have a few minor bugs at present, the worst of which seem to be some
networking issues; but even that is improving incrementally, at the same
speed that grass grows and paint dries.
If you want
Trinity, you should better install on a system with no KDE,
and running a testing TDE on a testing Debian, I'm not really surprised
you encounter some problems.
These are caused by your environment, not by Trinity itself.
Hi phiebie,
Welcome to TDE!
Couple things to add/agree with. Yeah, don’t install KDE 3.x and TDE at
the same time, as far as I remember this was never an option? Someone with
more experience will need to give deeper instructions but in general:
- If you have $10 to spare, just buy a new HDD and use it for testing.
(You can get a 250GB SATA 6GB/s for $7 on Amazon.)
- Do use a copy of your current KDE 3.x home partition or your user folder
when you’re installing TDE. Whether you need to install TDE 3.x first then
upgrade to TDE 14.x I’m not sure. Doing this will [fairly] seamlessly
migrate things like KMail. (Or at least that’s my memory from ~10 years
ago when I moved from KDE 3.x to TDE 3.x, which hopefully isn’t wrong.)
- If your looking for an “easy” test of a Debian based OS try MX Linux. It
installs well from their Live USB, gives you their default desktop, and
then you can add TDE like normal. https://mxlinux.org/
Best,
Michael