24 Apr
2020
24 Apr
'20
12:10 p.m.
On Friday 24 of April 2020 12:14:53 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2020 Fri, 24 Apr 11:07:30 +0200
Slávek Banko scripsit:
The idea is that instead of creating an organization for which we would
have to take care of all the necessary legal, we could create a TDE team -
a collective - at Open Collective. And through this team, we will be able
to accept donations and manage funds without having to worry about
bookkeeping and other legal requirements.
I suppose it will be easier to manage the core members of the team at Open
Collective than to address legal issues regarding the statutory roles in
the organization.
Or am I wrong and here are the necessary reasons for creating an
organization?
Cheers
--
Slávek
On Friday 24 of April 2020 08:15:14 Dr. Nikolaus
Klepp wrote:
For Open Collective, it depends on the selected fiscal host. For
example, here is a fiscal host based in Brussels:
https://opencollective.com/europe
Does anyone know of any other organizations such as Open Collective?
There is an example Software Freedom Conservancy, but it does not give
a choice of fiscal hosts - only the US. At the same time, it seems
more limited in the possibilities of donation methods, I do not see
transparent access to accounting records. See:
https://sfconservancy.org/projects/services/
Cheers
The question still is: what problem can you sove with a paied service
like that? You still need a legal framework to use it. And when you have
the framework, what's the point in those services?
Nik I assumed
a plan using a fiscal host. If I understood correctly,
for OpenSource projects, there are fiscal hosts available that
have 5% fees and no fixed monthly fees. And above all, the fiscal
host would take care of bookkeeping, taxes, and so on. We could
choose whether we prefer the US (USD currency) or the EU (EUR
currency):
https://opencollective.com/pricing?tab=singleCollectiveWithoutAcco
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> These kind of decisions are always a trade off, personally I’d
> go with Open Collective to begin with, but if the [TDE-ORG]
> starts getting decent funding I’d move on to something else.
If we use the Open Collective fiscal host, we would not have to
deal with starting our own organization for now. That's one of the
reasons why Open Collective seems interesting to me.
This is kind of service is the most expensive you can get, leaving
aside the legal implications. A professinal bookkeeper for a costs
you ~ 300.- / year for simple bookkeeping (again: Austria) - that
is, if you feel overhelmed with dooing simple bookkeeping yourself.
If going for legal, how should these companies handle local laws? To
which laws ate they bound? What's with VAT?
civicrm.org --> US
backdropcms.org --> US
opencollective.com --> US
stripe.com --> UK
Choos your poison.