25 Feb
2013
25 Feb
'13
2:12 p.m.
It makes the TDE community look bad (and certainly not inviting to growing
our ranks) when it is so popular to be hostile towards anything other than
TDE. You expect there to be a few jerks in any community, but when the
jerk percentage gets too high, you're keeping others away. The community
won't grow.
I'm not talking about being opinionated. Probably everyone here is pretty
opinionated about software freedom, & other unrelated things. I'm talking
about coming off as a jerk.
I realize, we'll probably just end up agreeing to disagree about all of
this, but this stuff seems pretty obvious to me.
cheers,
Elcaset
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:53 AM, Felmon Davis <davisf(a)union.edu> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2013, C W wrote:
Also, statements in this thread like "the abortion known as KDE4" doesn't
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sound to me like it was made with good
intentions.
I can't imagine why not. the poster is giving a strong warning, no ill
intent there. some will judge the warning exaggerated, some judge it apt.
just seems like there are just different standards of rhetoric. people
express themselves differently.
anyway, I am interested in the discussion of the relative merits of the
two or so approaches, especially if it goes into specifics.
F.
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:35 AM, C W
<elcaseti(a)gmail.com> wrote:
One thing I would like to point out is that the TDE project wouldn't
> exist
> without the KDE project. Can't we give the KDE project at least a little
> credit as having created KDE 3 so that TDE could be forked?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Elcaset
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:23 AM, Felmon Davis <davisf(a)union.edu> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2013, C W wrote:
>>
>> I had no idea the TDE community was this hostile. Like some other
>> folks
>>
>>> in
>>> here, I love both TDE & KDE4. They have different strengths. You
>>> don't
>>> have to only use one & say the other sucks. That's childish.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Elcaset
>>>
>>>
>> from my point of view it is to be expected that people have strong
>> opinions about such matters, including that this or that "sucks",
>> nothing
>> childish about it depending on their reasons.
>>
>> however I think we should make sure that in the expression of opinions
>> we
>> don't attack individuals whose opinions differ. I'm not sure that's
been
>> done yet but maybe approaching the margins.
>>
>> I find the discussion interesting and informative. as far as I can see,
>> the intentions certainly are good and if there are good questions and
>> good
>> answers, who's the loser?
>>
>> F.
>>
>> >
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Felix Miata <mrmazda(a)earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2013-02-24 20:32 (GMT-0500) Alexandre Couture composed:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> An example of a feature added to TDE that was not in KDE 3.5.10 is
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>> compositor. Has it broken all TDE and maked the users all upside down
>>>>> like
>>>>> what your are doing right now? Of course, not at all. It was just a
>>>>> nice
>>>>> addition to TDE and some persons have worked hard to implement it,
so
>>>>> whe
>>>>> should all thank those who want to improve TDE in any way.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Nice addition" is your opinion. How is compositing not
bling or
>>>> bloat?
>>>> It's incorporation in early KDE4 releases was a big reason I
didn't
>>>> even
>>>> like to sample them.
>>>> --
>>>> "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
>>>> words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
>>>>
>>>> Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
>>>>
>>>> Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
>>>>
>>>>
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