5 Apr
2015
5 Apr
'15
3:24 p.m.
I apologise to everyone else for shouting, but nothing else seems to work. If
this doesn't, I'll just give up and let Gene carry on in his own private
world.
On Sunday 05 April 2015 15:37:22 Gene Heskett wrote:
I DIDN'T SEND THE MISSING ONES. I get my own mails back. I DO SEE MY OWN
MAILS.
I
On Sunday 05 April 2015 07:44:37 Lisi Reisz wrote:
The point is, that apparently your ISP has farmed this email server
function they are expected to supply, out to a gmail alias
NO THEY HAVEN'T. I use a Gmail address.
On Sunday 05 April 2015 00:58:15 Gene Heskett
wrote:
No, I'm not. I'm using a Gmail address. I'm posting from my
computer, using KMail, via my ISP's SMTP server.
Exactly what I would be doing when I go thru a gmail or shental account.
On Saturday 04 April 2015 17:24:23 Lisi Reisz
wrote:
[snip]
I've
got several emails in this thread missing, and they are not
in my spam folder either. Weird and somewhat annoying. How much
else is going missing? I know some is. :-(
Lisi
Oh dear... Since you also are posting from a gmail account, and the
list
echo is deleted, that is not surprising. Cc: yourself, or find a
different, non gmail, mail server to use would be my best
recommendation. Cc'ing yourself is no guarantee the list got it, so
while it would probably serve the purpose, it comes with no
warranty.
It's not emails from me that are missing, so cc.ing myself would make
no difference. I don't use Gmail as an email client, only as an
archive and POP3 server, and I don't send through Gmail, but through
my ISP's SMTP server. I always get copies of my own emails to mailing
lists. so gmail's
duplicate removal policy applies. You can send it, but the servers
reply of that message to you is a duplicate and deleted.
THE MESSAGES I SEND REACH ME FINE. I SHALL GET THIS ONE.
If you are
saying that Gmail's POP server randomly discards received
emails, without even putting them in either the spam folder or the
"bin", and other mail servers don't, this is the first that I have
heard of it.
It does it, its not random, its a duplicate and removed. Other people on
the list see it, but you don't get it back, not ever from gmail.
From the header of this email from the trinity list that I am replying to
right now:
From: Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com>
To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Yes, I got that too. I use a Gmail address.
If it be
indeed the case, then that is a serious matter,
but I would expect to have heard about it in that case.
Yes, it is in my opinion, a serious matter. It is also why I don't use
either of my gmail accounts for any mailing list subscriptions. The
shentel address gets used by some friends where it doesn't matter, and
it works well for that.
However, something has gone wrong. Some emails
in this thread are
missing. So perhaps Gmail's POP3 server has started a policy of
randomly discarding random emails.
Their pop3 server has discarded duplicates from the gitgo, many years ago
now. That was one of their original sales pitches if I recall correctly. The only real solution is to get gmail _out_ of the
path used to move the
message both ways. One way is fine.
Gmail isn't in my SMTP path.
Please stop trying on my behalf to create a problem that isn't there. That
there is a problem I agree. But you have entirely misdiagnosed it.
Lisi