Actually, I want is a spacer to created cleanly
differentiated ares for
starting icons, Systray, and various applets that I want to group into
functional areas.
It's no shipped with KDE, but you can add this plasmoid:
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Panel+Spacer?content=89304
There are only two states of an icon. Full colored and
slightly opaque
when you move the mouse pointer over it. There is no difference between
hovering with the mouse and clicking it. Screenshot doesn't help in this
case.
But I need a KDE 3 screenshots of the different states to show them
how you'd like it. Trust me, that's the only way to file the bug such
that it won't be ignored. Otherwise the dev has too much left to his
imagination.
See attachment. Icon1 is untouched and icon2 shows the icon when hovered over
with the mouse. There is a difference of colors, but there is no further
visual difference between hovering and clicking. KDE3 used to have an option
of seeing the icon as if it were a pressed button. Does this explanation make
it any clearer?
Yes, much clearer, thanks. Please attach KDE 3 screenshots (Not KDE 4
screenshots), to this bug:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=191873
Thanks!
I call BS. Mounting, unmounting, properties, size,
filesystem etc. are
pieces of important information and I want to have these available before
using a basically crappy file manager. My file manager is cp, mv, ls, dd
and rm (plus cat and grep) and I'd like to use it on pluggable devices
before starting Dolphin.
So why don't you mount manually?
Because there are many more steps involved in doing it:
* look at dmesg to see the exact device name
* An external hard disk with more than one partition need looking at to decide
which partition you want to mount, i.e. cfdisk or mount them all and then use
"df"
* mount device mountpoint
* unmount /mountpoint
This sounds like something that you could probably write a small
application to help with. It would parse dmesg, list the available
partitions and optionally let you [un]mount them. You could probably
even do it in bash or python.
It would be preferable to
* get information about device and partitions before mounting
* letting you decide which partition to mount OR
* have them mounted automatically in standard places
KDE 4 in Kubuntu automatically mounts the devices, but you can unmount
them. It does not show mountpoints, however. It sounds like you are
asking for two features:
1) The choice whether or not to mount attached removable media.
2) Information regarding removable disk partitions on unmounted
attached removable media.
Is this right?
If your
intention is to use the CLI
then I'm not sure exactly what you are requesting here. I'm not being
a smart-ass, I'm really trying to figure this out. What exactly is it
that you need here? Was it available in KDE 3?
KDE3 took a different route: For each partition it showed you an individual
icon. Right clicking on each of these you could see the type of file system,
letting you mount/unmount it and/or open in konqueror. Gave you best of the
two worlds between CLI and GUI.
Where was that info, on the desktop? Panel? Popup window?
As I said, my file manager is 5 two letter words and
I'd like to use it
with pluggable devices. Give me a mount/umount/properties option on
pluggable devices and I'll be happy. I don't need graphical overhead to
do simple file operations.
Can you not mount from the CLI? Or if HAL automounts the device, why
can you not access it in /media or wherever else it is mounted?
See, I haven't figured out automounting a device in KDE4 without editing
/etc/fstab. I realize that this is probably the "real" way to do it, but
somehow I have refrained from looking up UUIDs of each and every device I
might plug in (5 external hard disks, 3 Memory Sticks). I had hoped for a
clean GUI way of a) seeing the device and mount/unmount it in KDE.
Again, here it looks like you fit right between the cracks of the KDE3
GUI and the CLI. I would recommend to you that you write the bash
script that I suggested earlier. It would free you from the dependency
on GUI and you can add it as another two-letter word in your toolbox!
However, I am still happy to help you file the feature request, but we
need to define it well.
Probably the easiest way of doing it (that's the
route I am taking now) is to
actually open it in Dolphin as soon as the device turns up. Opening all
partitions in let's say 4 different Dolphin windows, closing these windows,
goint to Konsole, do a "mount" and then work on the file system I need. With 4
partitions, two of them NTFS, two of them ext3, I still need to figure out
which ones I actually want to work with.
Script it!
Please give an
example of your KDE 3 workflow so that I can see what
is missing in KDE 4.
* Plug in device
* Go to shell and start "mount" to see mount points and then cd to directory
No GUI tools here.
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