On Friday 04 September 2020 00:04:52 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2020 Thu, 3 Sep 23:17:50 -0700
William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
On Thursday 03 September 2020 14:56:01 deloptes wrote:
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Remove or comment out all lines except these 2, then reboot:
auto lo iface lo inet loopback
good catch Dr. Klepp - I have completely forgotton that there are still people on desktops with entries in the file. When I read your question it lighted up again - to manage the networks by NetworkManager there should be no entries in there (except lo as pointed by you)
Changed these lines now (contrary to all advice found by online "experts"!), and I am now rebooting in order to do a test run.
Science means that I ought to be able to reproduce your results, rather than attributing my problems to the Men in Black.
Bill
P.S. Regarding those lines in /etc/network/interfaces Okay, so that did the trick, I believe, so far as getting my network to behave normally again. I am puzzled about why it should begin to misbehave, when I have been using those settings since long before TDE and Debian. I believe I set those lines back when I started running Linux, sometime around Kubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04, so about 2006 or 2007, back when I still had direct contact with other human beings.
Anyway, so the worst of the issue is solved. It seems that I can go online/offline, back and forth, without my connection getting caught in some limbo then needing to reboot.
However, there is yet one glitch. When I tried to use tdenetworkmanager to connect, I can look at all available networks, as usual, and everything behaves as expected. I only needed to re-enter my wifi password, enable my chosen network, etc., but when I go to save the network, I am told that I don't have sufficient permissions.
On the other hand, wicd seems to work normally again, so that life can go on, one way or another. I would like to solve this new issue, but if not, at least I can control my network connection.
What groups are you in? IMO you need to be in "netdev".
Just checked, and I am already a member of that group.
Moreover, I seem to have reverted to that problem of network limbo, where I cannot go online/offline without making a mess and needing to reboot.
The error message I am getting is this: ############ Unable to save network connection!
Potential causese:
* Insufficient permissions * NetworkManager not running * DBUS failure ############ (I would have taken a snapshot, but I find that I do not yet have ksnapshot-trinity installed.)
At least I have got tdenetworkmanager's icon to look normal (a globe when it is running, a white square when not), and I can actually see the networks, just I am not allowed to use them, nor to save settings. So now I am back to using wicd for network, and fighting against Network Limbo Syndrome.
Bill
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