The use of “worked in an office environment” was a
reference to any group
of [non-blood related] people. “Chit-chat” is a reference to any
communication between humans (and within this thread’s context a label of
“non-productive” is probably appropriate).
Well in that case, there are times and
places that are appropriate for chit-chat and there are
ones that are not. I have many times participated in meetings that were organized to
discuss
work-related matters (current research, teaching, etc.) but were hijacked by 2 or 3 people
to
talk about private issues unrelated to the reason why remaining 7-8 people have come for
the
meeting. These 2 or 3 people might have had fun talking but for the remaining majority of
people
this was unproductive and a waste of time. As was already said this list was created to
give a
fairly small community of TDE users a place to discuss TDE-related issues. The fact that
several
individuals have turned this list into their own private social media is regretable. The
reason
why I said I'll probably unsubscribe from the list if this goes on was not to somehow
blackmail
any of the said individuals - becuase I doubt they'll notice or care - but to make the
list
moderators aware that the community might be eroding because of the messy state of the
list. I
know at least several people on the list are happy with the way the list is at the moment.
This
is called a selection bias: ones that didn't like the list have silently left and no
one noticed.
There was a suggestion earlier to use filters. That's what I do at the moment. I use a
KMail
filter to put all tde-users emails into a dedicated folder and mark them as read. My
original
intention was to look into the folder at my leisure and respond to those emails where I
can help
someone. But the sheer amount of off-topic email is often so huge that it's just too
much effort
trying to pick out the on-topic ones.
So, a humble request to list moderators: can we turn this list into a moderated one where
every
email needs to be approved and thus all off-topic emails can be rejected? Many lists on
the
internet work this way. Enforicing the discussion rules is a common practice, not some
sort of
mystical attempt to fight against the laws of the universe.
Janek