[tde-users] Re: Is there any saving of KMenu?

said Borg Labs: | On Friday 11 June 2021 06:12:25 pm dep wrote: | > said Nick Koretsky: | > | On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 15:45:12 -0500 | > | | > | Michael <mb_trinity_desktop(a)inet-design.com> wrote: | > | > On Friday 11 June 2021 02:12:48 pm dep wrote: | > | > > Nor is there any place I can find a simple file that contains | > | > > all the entries in one's KMenu, such that one might rearrange | > | > > them by hand. It is surely stored someplace, but I cannot find | > | > > it. It ought to be able to be opened in a spreadsheet such that | > | > > the order could be altered with a click. | > | > | > | > Okay, this will suck... | > | > | > | > - Open a command prompt | > | > - Do nothing for more than 1 minute... | > | > - Edit something in KMenu | > | > - Then run these two commands | > | > | > | > # find / -newerct $(date +%Y-%m-%d -d '1 min ago') -type f | > | > # find / -newermt $(date +%Y-%m-%d -d '1 min ago') -type f | > | > | > | > The first does "Change" time, the second does "Create" time. | > | > | > | > And you *should*! be able to find where KMenu stores it changes | > | > in... | > | | > | This will not help. There is | > | .config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu but it only contains | > | manually edited things. | > | AFAIK the actual menu is assembled in memory from .desktop files | > | > A glance at it suggests that it includes lots of things that I didn't | > add manually. But it would also be a huge headache to try to edit it | > into any kind of order. | > | > Still, it's more than nothing. I just see no obvious way, other than | > cut'n'paste in a text editor, to manipulate it. | > | > Am I the only one who finds KMenu troublesome? | > -- | > dep | | ME! | | Which is why, since they went xml or whatever, I've been creating my own | menus. | | What I do, is create a dir called "system" in my user dir | then add 'kmenu" | I give the dir a hidden icon, setup the .directory file. | Submenus, and desktop items. | | I then add them as quick browsers to kicker. | | I use kbfx as a main menu (thank you Ali) search function to find items | I want and copy them to the appropriate submenu in my custom kmenu. | | The kids love the "penguin menu" where all the most used items are. | | This can easily be customized using drag and drop and text editors. | | I also create a custom menu using keditmenu to add items I want to have | keyboard hot keys. | | A few steps but once it's done you can back it up, add, subtract items | etc. Been doing it since 3.5. I've just downloaded and installed kbfx, but I can't make heads or tails of it. In fact, all that I can see that got installed was a configuration application that is heavy on themes -- yuck -- and light on how to use the thing. In fact, I can't find how to start the thing at all. What I'm trying to achieve here is a menu that lists applications of my choosing in categories of my choosing in an order of my choosing, which would be alphabetical. I cannot imagine that this would be particularly complicated, but it apparently is. One of the reasons I abandoned KDE after 3.5 is that it seemed that people were engaging in Dickensian programming. (Charles Dickens was paid by the word, which is why his newspaper serials and resulting books are so long and complicated. If he had been paid by the job, they would have been shorter, less complicated, and generally better, I think.) It needn't look any different from the regular KMenu. I just want to be able to populate it in my own fashion. No one else needs to like it, because no one else will ever see it. I'm given to understand -- thanks, Kate! -- that kbfx somehow will allow this, but its configuration program is solely about how it looks, not what it contains. Nor does it specify how to start the damned thing. What's the command to open kbfx? --