Tim I agree with what you are saying but as someone who knows MATE quite
well and is an active participant in that project (the forum) it irks me to
no end when people use it and complain yet do absolutely nothing to help. I
know of a couple of instances where people have posted usability issues and
the devs have worked on them. One fellow felt physically ill with the line
that scrolls across when downloading, the devs have been working with him
on that because it is a usability feature for a very small group of users
(I'd suggest way less than 1%).
I would be the very same with TDE if someone come out and said it was
"awful" but MATE was "wonderful". I have been accused of censoring
people
who post emotional attacks on Gnome 3 or KDE 4 that have no technical basis
but are based on using something they have an emotional attachment to.