1 Sep
2020
1 Sep
'20
7:25 p.m.
On Tuesday 01 September 2020 09:33:08 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2020 Tue, 1 Sep 06:39:01 -0700
William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
Nope. Nothing was installed from that repo (yet), and now it's disabled, once
again I updated the sources.list, but apt-get keeps returning the same
message:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
network-manager : Depends: libpam-systemd
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
Bill
On Tuesday 01 September 2020 05:30:03 Dr.
Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
The Beowul repo for trinity is just a link to the Buster Repo. Just use
Buster, it's OK.
Anno domini 2020 Tue, 1 Sep 05:20:27 -0700
William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
So, I tried to change the Trinity repos from Buster to Beowulf, updated
my sources.list, and that didn't work at all. Trinity only recognizes
Buster. I also tried to "pin" the packages to Beowulf (using the option
-t beowulf in apt-get), to no avail. Another new problem, and I swear, this one is not
of my own making;
unless of course you mean that I am one of those no-systemd devuan
dissidents.
So far, in my new Beowulf installation, I've been using wicd to
connect; not because I prefer it, but only because it's there. When I
was running Jessie, over the past few years tdenetworkmanager and
wicd seemed to fight it out, and I couldn't figure out the cause.
Sometimes, on a fresh installation, I would be able to use
tdenetworkmanager; sometimes not. On the whole, I ended up using wicd
about 3/4 of the time. But anyway, at least I could connect, and had
no serious issues. It was more a matter of preference. One thing I
did notice, though, is that wicd somehow would assume root
privileges, even though I did not run it as root.
Anyway, so in my new installation, I would like to use
tdenetworkmanager, but now I get these error messages. I list them in
order of discovery:
1 - network-manager-tde depends on network-manager
(Yeah, I knew that, but huh?)
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
network-manager-tde : Depends: network-manager (>= 0.7.0) but it is
not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
2 - Let's grab that dependency ...
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
network-manager : Depends: libpam-systemd
3 - Let's try to build-dep ...
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
builddeps:network-manager : Depends: libpolkit-agent-1-dev (>= 0.97)
but it is not going to be installed
Depends: systemd (>= 185) but it is not
installable
4 - Why can't I build-dep for network-manager?
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
builddeps:network-manager : Depends: libpolkit-agent-1-dev (>= 0.97)
but it is not going to be installed
Depends: systemd (>= 185) but it is not
installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
So the only answer I get is that I must install systemd in order to
run tdenetworkmanager? I've already tried some command-line voodoo to
force installation, ignore held packages, all that good stuff.
I would just give up for the present, and rely on wicd, which at
least has always worked pretty well. It's been my #2 choice, when
I've had issues with tdenetworkmanager, which has been about 3/4 of
the past couple years. It may be an issue with Debian, because
technically TDE-Trinity uses Debian Buster packages, not Devuan
Beowulf; they are the same, mostly, but not always.
Now my problem is, once I go online, thereafter I cannot go offline.
When I try, I usually find that I still have an active connection
that won't die; when I do succeed in going offline, after that I
cannot get back online, but must reboot in order to get a connection
again.
My verdict is, something's wrong.
:)
tdenetworkmanager works on beowulf, wicd does not - that's what I found
when I upgraded. But there should not be any systemd dependecy when you
are on devuan. Could you check if that you do not have accidentally
activated some debian repository?
Nik
> Bill The problem currently remains the same, as
related below.
Hi Nik! Thanks for your help.
Buster is named only for some oddball third-party stuff; except, that is,
for Trinity-TDE repos themselves (for which, see below).
deb-multimedia repos (for ? I forget)
Ok. That is most likely your troublemaker. You'll need to get rid of all
packages from that repo - that will cause some TDE packags to be removed,
too, due to dependencies. Identify one of the deb-multimedia packages, then
use "apt-show-versions" (most likely you'll need to install it first) and
grep for the extensions. This is a tediouse process, I've been through it a
couple of times. The only thing you maybe miss is libdvdcss2. I think I
installed it from the sources.
Nik
> I could disable them unless I need a specific
package; but I seem to
> recall that apt would try to uninstall whatever it was, if the repo is
> not enabled. deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org stable main
> deb-src http://www.deb-multimedia.org stable main
>
> the repos for Vivaldi (but I could disable these unless I want to
> upgrade) deb http://repo.vivaldi.com/snapshot/deb/ stable main
>
>
> the Tor project
>
> deb http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org buster stable main
> deb-src http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org buster stable main
>
> Maybe Trinity itself, as I wasn't sure whether to insert Buster or
> Beowulf. I noticed some repositories seem to redirect, but others want it
> specified, one or the other. When I read the instructions and comments on
> the wiki page, it said something about devuan users should "just use
> debian", etc.
>
> deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian
> buster main
> deb-src
> http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian
> buster main
> deb
> http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/de
>bian buster main
> deb-src
> http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/de
>bian buster main
>
> deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity-sb buster main-r14
> deps-r14 deb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity-sb buster
> main-r14 deps-r14
>
> Bill
>
>
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