On Sunday 30 August 2020 11:19:03 Slávek Banko wrote:
On Saturday 29 of August 2020 13:11:01 William Morder
via trinity-users
Sorry to take so long to respond. I was AFK and lost in the physical world,
and dealing with the problems of living in meatspace.
wrote:
Okay, so I solved part of the sudoers list / root
password problem.
Turns out that I had not downloaded quite all the sudo packages,
particularly some of the tde-trinity packages, or kde-trinity transition
packages, or something in that lot.
If you do not set a root password and use sudo, then the tdesudo-trinity
package is appropriate to ensure that all tdesu calls are actually tdesudo
=> instead of su and root passwords will use sudo and the user's password.
The mysterious E (for Enigmatic) raised the issue of su against sudo; and I've
also heard Nik mention that su is better for the single home user, which is
myself. Until now, sudo + tdesudo has always done the trick for me, but if it
is less secure, and my system will work, then at least I ought to make myself
aware of the distinctions. I've tried out su, but so far I don't see any
benefit, and only hear about the perils of sudo.
It is possible that I can change my habits, so I will look into su. But if
anybody can explain why su or why *not* sudo, I would be grateful, as the
technical descriptions I can find online, or in my Linux guides, do not guide
me toward any decisive points, and I see no reason to change what works.
However, I will suppose that E knows something that I don't on this point, so
I am considering how to implement such a change in my working habits.
I wonder if
developers can be persuaded to create firestarter-trinity
packages, updated to handle ipv6? Gufw does have some nice features, but
it is good to be able to see my connections, in real time -- especially
when it seems that it was being hijacked, or derailed, by a tor exit
node. It seems a pity that such a great package should be deemed
obsolete, and not worth adapting or upgrading, but there may be
technical reasons that make it unavoidable.
Firestarter is a GTK+ application - it somewhat diminishes the motivation
for inclusion in the TDE tree. Did you try KMyFirewall? I've never used
it, but it's an application that's already incorporated into TDE.
Bill
Cheers
Yes, I gathered that Firestarter is probably not worth the effort. Anyway,
after reading Michael's praise of gufw, I decided I ought to explore that
option more deeply, but the last couple days have been busy. I did try
KMyFirewall, and while it looks like it has loads of features, I've never
been able to get it to do anything more than start up; beyond that, so far as
I can tell, it does NOTHING. For now I will look into ufw/gufw, as I can see
a way forward there.
Thanks to all the other comments and suggestions. (I'll respond to more of
them individually, as I have time again.)
I've mentioned before that I wanted to make some hardware upgrades, and needed
to get a few items that would not only help me in my work, but indeed will
bestow upon me superpowers. :-} So I have been making the nest ready for the
new arrivals; yesterday was a big day, and I am still exhausted.
For these upgrades, I needed to search out the software packages, which are
posted; for Brother printers, in particular, the deb packages were always
really old (Hardy 8.04 = Debian pre-Wheezy, I believe). Now, however, I
noticed that packages were being kept current for certain models, so it
looked more promising: I could keep a printer working for a few years into
the future, without force-installing old packages.
My machine already violates the laws of nature, as well as plain common sense;
a little of that sort of thing is already too much. Then, when I tried to
upgrade my Jessie system, I found that the Devuan netinstall disc for Jessie
no longer could download packages; which, I surmised, had been moved to the
archives, meaning that the download URLs in the netinstall disc would not
work. (That's one advantage to using a full installation disc.) So I was
forced into upgrading, like it or not, since I only had the netinstall discs
for Devuan.
When I had tried to upgrade from Devuan Jessie to Ascil/Stretch, I ended up
with networking problems, but when I tried a new installation of
Beowulf/Buster, it went well, and moreover it proves much faster to get from
nothing to a working system (with a working TDE desktop).
It used to take me about 5 hours to install the Jessie system, sometimes
longer, sometimes a few days, if I didn't follow all the steps exactly right;
but with Beowulf/Buster, the initial installation is less than an hour, and
getting TDE installed is only a little longer -- so maybe less than two hours
to reinstall completely -- and now that I have packages already downloaded,
it will be faster yet.
Michael did raise one interesting possibility, and maybe I ought to direct it
to the developers: Is it possible to download *all* the packages in the TDE
repositories (that is, that will run on my system), rather than having to
pick through and guess? I have lists of packages from Jessie and earlier, but
then I have to weed out the obsolete packages. What I want is to create my
own local repository, to use when I have connection problems or Internet is
down.
In Debian, for example, I can download not only the installation discs, but
also all the current packages (which usually takes about 3 or 4 discs, I
believe). I thought that I had already downloaded tdesudo, for instance, but
it got lost in the shuffle; also some of the repositories in my sources.list
had been marked as sid instead of jessie (which worked better for me at the
time), but with an upgrade to Beowulf/Buster, it is preferable to stick with
stable, beowulf or buster (which are equivalent, at present), depending on
which repository I'm using.
Anyway ... so now Beowulf/Buster with TDE is installed, and my system is
stable, and I feel confident in deleting all my old packages that are eating
up space on that hard drive. I miss some of the old favorites that have
fallen out, but I've also discovered newer packages that fill the void, and
usually improve upon what I had, so now I have found a way forward again.
Thanks to the devs for all their hard work, as well as to everybody who helped
out with suggestions and comments. This was rather a rush job for me, as I do
not yet have a test machine that I can use for experiments, and I needed to
get my desktop up and running quickly, within a few days, as I was pressed to
make some decisions in the real world, here at home, and I had deadlines and
commitments and so on. Now this part is done, and I can relax a little.
Bill
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