22 Feb
2016
22 Feb
'16
12:03 p.m.
On Monday 22 February 2016 04:15:02 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 22 February 2016 00:05:41 Gene Heskett
wrote:
I didn't "hack" anything to put it there, Lisi. Thats where my first
EMC2 install put it, from one of Paul Conners Brain Dead Installers 15
years ago put it, that is where the Lucid 8.04 LTS install put it, thats
where the Hardy 10.04 LTS install put it and thats where the install
iso based on Wheezy put it. All I had to do was copy the email corpus
from the old drive to the new one each time I made a new install on a
new drive.
Sure I write scripts to take care of stuff the installer should have
taken care of but didn't, and cannot because the choices would exceed
the size of the dvd. All I am doing is scrattching an itch.
To me its not hacking, its polishing the apple. I don't build/buy these
machines to be told how I have to conform to them, particularly if the
job is only being half-assedly done, and email is one of those things
where there simply is no way to satisfy any of the people even 50% of
the time. It can't be done, so I make them conform to me. If I have a
function I need to do, then I might install something, but except for my
scripts, and of course amanda for backups, even that is wrapped in my
own helper scripts because it puts a bare metal recovery capability at
my finger tips.
If the main drive in this machine died in the next hour, its a trip to
town to get a fresh drive, install from the same cd on it, install or
build amanda, and once its running, I can have this system fully
restored to its state as of 3 hours ago, and will only have lost those
emails that have come in since the backup, and will be back to 100%
normal operation by noon if I don't go back to bed. Which I am going to
do as I'm up way to early for me.
To you, even changing a password is hacking I guess. But to make a
machine do something it is fully capable of doing, even if its not on
the menu at your favorite "greasy spoon"/"distribution" is not
hacking,
its making the machine do what I need it to do AND bought it or built it
to do.
I think you need to find a better word than "hacking". Its usually
called programming.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
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soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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On Sunday 21 February 2016 15:39:57 Thierry de
Coulon wrote:
Sorry, Gene - this is the not 100% correct information. You have not
got a standard Wheezy system by any manner of means. It was possible
to keep mail in ~/Mail. which is where it was before, but only by
deliberately hacking one's system. It is NOT where it is on a standard
Wheezy/TDE system. E.g., it is not on mine. I migrated my mails,
with help from the community, I did not hack and set up links or
whatever in order to keep ~/Mail, although that was a possibility.
ISTR that I tried and made a mess of it.
Lisi On Sunday 21 February 2016 01.41:18 Glen
Cunningham wrote:
That might not be 100% good info, here on a wheezy system, its
~/Mail, and I can't remember when it was different. Reply to my own post for the archives.
On Sunday 21 February 2016 09:38:25 Glen Cunningham wrote:
> Thanks for the try, Nik,
>
> On Sunday 21 February 2016 03:39:15 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > It's that simple :-)
>
> NO! It is not that simple.
(...)
Laboriously copied the above 6
files/directories from .kde3 on
the old box to .trinity on the new one.
That did not work! Kmail failed to start.
Deleted the 5 config files, restarted kmail, at least kmail
started this time and my old mailboxes seem to have survived.
There has gotta be a better way!
Cheers,
Glen
It should - almost - work the way Nik indicated.
There are possibly a few things to edit when you move to .trinity
(but that will be only once). Mainly, did you edit
/.trinity/share/config/kmailrc ? In the last part of the file
(after the mailboxes), you have the path to your mail directory.
In (very) old time this would have been ~/mail , but somwhere in
KDE history it was relocated to a ./kde3 subdirectory, usually
$HOME/.kde3/share/apps/kmail/mail. You must change that to
$HOME/.trinity/share/apps/kmail/mail
As far as I remember that's all I had to do (apart from copyinf
the directory).
Thierry