On 02/21/2016 03:05 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: The Mail dir is a setting, it seems it was changed at some point and buried in the .trinity/xx/xx/xx ad nauseum. I use ~/Mail on some of my boxes. As to the OP question I would copy the .kdexx folder and rename it ,trinity . It seems like I did this years ago, or something as simple as that. One caveat that comes to mind is I always have the same users, and UID's on my network. greg m

On Monday 22 February 2016 04:15:02 Lisi Reisz wrote: I didn't "hack" anything to put it there, Lisi. Thats where my first EMC2 install put it, from one of Paul Conners Brain Dead Installers 15 years ago put it, that is where the Lucid 8.04 LTS install put it, thats where the Hardy 10.04 LTS install put it and thats where the install iso based on Wheezy put it. All I had to do was copy the email corpus from the old drive to the new one each time I made a new install on a new drive. Sure I write scripts to take care of stuff the installer should have taken care of but didn't, and cannot because the choices would exceed the size of the dvd. All I am doing is scrattching an itch. To me its not hacking, its polishing the apple. I don't build/buy these machines to be told how I have to conform to them, particularly if the job is only being half-assedly done, and email is one of those things where there simply is no way to satisfy any of the people even 50% of the time. It can't be done, so I make them conform to me. If I have a function I need to do, then I might install something, but except for my scripts, and of course amanda for backups, even that is wrapped in my own helper scripts because it puts a bare metal recovery capability at my finger tips. If the main drive in this machine died in the next hour, its a trip to town to get a fresh drive, install from the same cd on it, install or build amanda, and once its running, I can have this system fully restored to its state as of 3 hours ago, and will only have lost those emails that have come in since the backup, and will be back to 100% normal operation by noon if I don't go back to bed. Which I am going to do as I'm up way to early for me. To you, even changing a password is hacking I guess. But to make a machine do something it is fully capable of doing, even if its not on the menu at your favorite "greasy spoon"/"distribution" is not hacking, its making the machine do what I need it to do AND bought it or built it to do. I think you need to find a better word than "hacking". Its usually called programming. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

On Monday 22 February 2016 09:54:05 Lisi Reisz wrote: wrote: I repeat, I did NOT have to move it when I installed TDE r14, it apparently looked at the old .kde4 config, and adjusted itself accordingly. In fact, I am unable to find a configuration option in the tde control center that would even allow it to be changed. This exists in my ~/.trinity: share/config/kmailrc:folders[$e]=$HOME/Mail and I didn't touch it. And I haven't a clue what the [$e] in the string means. Aha, caught'cha my dear girl, I am NOT running the 3.5.xx.y version of TDE, but r14.0.3 according to the pulldown. And I haven't seen anyplace where its said that r14 uses the same layout as the 3.5.xx.y might use. So my kmail is 1.9.10. No clue what yours says it is. I believe I'll rest my case... :) I thought some levity might improve the exchange. :) My programming is often the end result of living with what I've written long enough to see that it could be improved, so it will over time, be fine tuned. My spam and virii treatments both have been overhauled in the last month. I had just been putting clamav's hits in an isolated mail file that is not read by kmail. My bank, a died in the wool winderz running bunch that I've long given up on, they are what they are, defectively educated MBA's, got infected, clamav triggered, and put the messages into isolation. When I got a new CC with the chip in it, it was a total surprise, but in that virii collection was 3 messages from then advising me it was coming. 5 pieces of crap from AARP too but it was blatant spam too, so no big deal except that clamav has first dibs on it in my .procmailrc file. That could have been serious, so both have now been modified to give me 24 hours to see them before they are sent to dev/null. That was on the 15th, and clamav hasn't triggered since to see if it works. I should probably hack my crontab to have clamav look at it about 8 or 9 in the morning to get me an email report. That should take too much in the way of "hacking". As for my other programming efforts, in g-code, I have one file that can carve the ends of 4 different boards, that has been back into the editor at least 1000 times in the two years since I renamed it to a -3.ngc version. And just a week or so back, I found something that would let me change the board its to do without a trip to the editor. It seems named variables in linuxcnc can survive anything but a cold restart of the computer. So now I need to figure out how to test to see if they exist, without generating a show stopping error, or doing a default all zeros run as that is in fact a valid config for those 2 variables. Not only to tell it which board it is to cut this run, but to improve the code even if it was working satisfactorily in terms of makeing joints that are perfect mirrors of each other so a side board and an end board just plug into each other, ready for a dab of glue and half a box of screws to make the finished assembly. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

Am Montag, 22. Februar 2016 schrieb Lisi Reisz: Hi Lisi! $HOME/Mail was definitly the standard on KDE, but it might be further down the road of history. I recall that last time I used SuSE (2003 I think) it was definitly there, also up the timeline in debian etch. I'm quite sure of this as I use kmail since ~ 2003 as my only mail client and carry it's config and location with me since then (and still some old mails :-) ). But memory gets lost in the fog of time ... ;-) Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA.

On Monday 22 February 2016, Lisi Reisz wrote: I'm on 14.0.2 (Mint) and I've still my mails in ~/Mail and I cannot remember, that I had to do something unusual from 13.* to 14.0. Gerhard

On Monday 22 February 2016 22.20:11 Gerhard Zintel wrote: That seems so far away but I wonder if it does not depend on the way one "changes" one's distribution. I think that when I first installed TDE it "took over" my ~/mail directory. However, if I install a distribution from scratch, it sets it in .trinity, so I one time moved my mails and edited the config files and since then I just copy them. I usually don't "upgrade" a distribution, I use the "japanese temple" method: I setup the new system in parallel to the "productive" one, slowly move what has to be moved, and when I feel the new version is better I change boot priority. Once the "old" system has no more been used for a few months, it becomes a free place for the next "new" system. So could it be that people who just upgrade their systems still have mail in the old place, but those who installed new had to migrate? Have a nice day, Thierry

On Monday 22 February 2016 17:37:30 Gene Heskett wrote: No, you haven't "gotcha" . The whole thread was how to migrate from 3.5.11 upwards and keep one's mail and settings. Any intervening point is relevant. The problem arose at the point where .kde changed to .trinity. Lisi