Am Dienstag, 22. September 2020 schrieb Uwe Brauer via tde-users:

Did you get any error message? Or error code (return code), i.e. can you say wether that command failed or succeeded?

Are you able to switch to console (Ctrl + Alt + F[1-6]) and log in?

I don't know how Ubuntu handles that stuff, but on Debian you find:

$ cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager /opt/trinity/bin/tdm

Check the contents of that file. I've had this file changed to another installed display manager a couple of times during upgrade of tdm-trinity.

If you can't log in at all, you can try with a rescue or live system from USB or such. Or start with option init=/bin/bash on linux command line to have at least a shell.

Am Samstag, 26. September 2020 schrieb Uwe Brauer via tde-users: Yes, that seems to be safer. Now that I think more of it, ubuntu is running systemd, no? What I proposed applies to sysvinit-based systems like devuan et al. NOT to systemd-based systems like ubuntu I have absolutely no experience with systemd-based distros, but this makes me think you would need to look deeper into how systemd starts display-managers and so on… Yeah, I wouldn't either. Good luck! Stefan tde-users mailing list -- users(a)trinitydesktop.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)trinitydesktop.org Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskt… ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

On Saturday 26 September 2020 06:04:23 am Abdurrahman via tde-users wrote: Hi Abdurrahman, 1. Please don't top post. 2. Please don't hijack other threads. 3. What you posted is nowhere near enough info for anyone to help you. Other people have successfully installed TDE .8 on D10 (myself included on multiple machines ~2 months ago). In events like that, then it’s almost always a local problem. I would check the installation media for errors (does the download file pass validation, are ALL the disk(s)/USBs/CDs that are being used okay?, does the system pass a RAM check?, etc.). If you still have errors afterwards, do include exactly what you are doing. Do include links to where you got each piece of software and what instructions you followed to install both D10 and TDE. Also include (copy/paste) the errors you are getting. Best, Michael tde-users mailing list -- users(a)trinitydesktop.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)trinitydesktop.org Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskt… ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

Michael: You're racist, and not the honest kinda racist, more like the hypocritical kind who tries to spin it into something else by appending a long pointless msg. Recent versions of Trinity causes problems if installed alongside other desktop environments, apt-get remove makes it worse. Test before you speak.

On 2020/09/28 06:28 PM, Abdurrahman via tde-users wrote: Abdurrahman, I usually don't get involved much in this sort of disputes, I stick to technical things. But: 1) common sense suggests that you don't get people to help you by telling them they are racist, hypocritical and so on. 2) there is a ML etiquette which is clearly posted on the TDE website that asks specifically not to top post, so make sure you know the rules before you insult others. 3) lot of people on this ML have been around for long time and have helped out each others a lot. I don't remember seeing you around for that long, so I take you are a new or recent user of this ML. Once again, make sure you know the rules of the community if you want to participate and get people to help you. Insulting others doesn't buy you any friends. Not just here, anywhere in life. Cheers Michele

Michael: You're racist, and not the honest kinda racist, more like the hypocritical kind who tries to spin it into something else by appending a long pointless msg. Recent versions of Trinity causes problems if installed alongside other desktop environments, apt-get remove makes it worse. Test before you speak.

Am Montag, 28. September 2020 schrieb deloptes via tde-users: I resently updated tdm on a devuan beoulf system with TDE preliminary stable builds. By default there is also slim installed. After _every_ update slim is again the default manager and I need to manually reconfigure tdm-trinity. I think I've reported such strange behavior maybe already two years ago or so. Kind regards, Stefan ____________________________________________________

On Wednesday 30 September 2020 12.40:31 Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote: Doesn't it simply mean that the update script sets back the default DM? On Debian I solved it by removing lightdm. Whenever I had installed with Gnome I got the same: gmd3 was reinstalled as DM if I did not remove it. If it is so I doubt we can do much (or we would have to modify some distro-internal script to put tdm there). Thierry ____________________________________________________

I tried, but currently it is beyond me (I admit I have cursed the decision to move to systemd because it makes things much more opaque). Debian is still sticking to sysvinit? Regards Uwe

Anno domini 2020 Sun, 27 Sep 08:57:47 +0200 Uwe Brauer via tde-users scripsit:

No, it uses systemd. Maybe you want to try Devuan? Either direct Devuan Beowulf installation or any of the many alternative live DVDs?

BTW, Knoppix 8.6 has dropped systemd, too :)

On Tuesday 22 September 2020 03:28:32 pm Uwe Brauer via tde-users wrote:

Hey Uwe,

If I read the whole thread right you just need google-chrome to work because of uni?

As a thought, try the Devuan and MX Linux Live USBs and see if either will install/run google-chrome first. Both Devuan and MX will install TDE.

On Sunday 27 September 2020 09:20:31 Uwe Brauer via tde-users wrote:

Did you try "sudo dpkg --purge --force-all desktop-base"? In the past, at least on my own system, I have found this to solve a problem that sounds similar to yours.

The default package desktop-base seems to conflict with desktop-base-trinity, although it usually doesn't come up as an error. Other contenders (desktop-base-* for other DEs) might also conflict.

Before purging desktop-base (the default), then make sure that desktop-base-trinity is installed. Then run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity" and "sudo dpkg-reconfigure desktop-base-trinity".

If I am forced to use another DE as a workaround sometimes, or for purposes of troubleshooting, then I myself would prefer MATE or xfce, as they are the least intrusive, and don't conflict much with TDE.

Same here. I am still trying to weed out all the unwanted KDE 4/5 krap. > Uwe