30 Apr
2015
30 Apr
'15
8:42 p.m.
Can we have a mention of Slávek's R14 preliminary-stable-builds repository on
the web-site?
With a short explanation of what it is, along the lines of: more up-to-date
versions and other architectures/distros can be found at...and perhaps the
following from an email of Slávek's:
1) Add the source to sources.list:
deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb *distribution-name* deps-r14 main-r14
2) From some public GPG keyserver download the key and import it into APT:
sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pks.gpg.cz --recv-keys ED1F4884
Explanation of why I thought of it now:
Yesterday someone on one of my local LUGs' mailing list complained that when
he upgraded to Vivid his DE went to pot - I won't bore you with the details.
He went on:
<quote>
Because of this, I thought I'd give trinity a go, but that doesn't
appear to have a vivid release yet.
It looks like it's not my day today.
</quote>
I hastily wrote sending my guess at the repository entry for Vivid, which I
immediately confirmed here and ratified to him.
He replied:
<quote>
Thanks for that.
I was trying to follow the instructions from trinitydesktop.org and
using the pearsoncomputing ppa.
Have I been looking in the wrong place?
[snip]
I used the repository you suggested, and I've installed trinity
successfully.
[snip]
Until you mentioned it I had no idea that there
were other repos for trinity.
</quote>
Whilst R14 preliminary-stable-builds has no pretensions to being Stable, it is
stable and is a valuable resource to us and could be to others. It seems
worthy of a mention.
Lisi
30 Apr
30 Apr
10:08 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Can we have a mention of Slávek's repository on the web-site?
On Thursday 30 April 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:
Whilst R14 preliminary-stable-builds has no
pretensions to being
Stable, it is stable and is a valuable resource to us and could be
to others. It seems worthy of a mention.
Lisi
+1
Gerhard
1 May
1 May
1:13 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Can we have a mention of Slávek's repository on the web-site?
On Thursday 30 of April 2015 22:42:37 Lisi Reisz wrote:
Can we have a mention of Slávek's R14
preliminary-stable-builds repository
on the web-site?
With a short explanation of what it is, along the lines of: more up-to-date
versions and other architectures/distros can be found at...and perhaps the
following from an email of Slávek's:
1) Add the source to sources.list:
deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb *distribution-name* deps-r14 main-r14
2) From some public GPG keyserver download the key and import it into APT:
sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pks.gpg.cz --recv-keys ED1F4884
Explanation of why I thought of it now:
Yesterday someone on one of my local LUGs' mailing list complained that
when he upgraded to Vivid his DE went to pot - I won't bore you with the
details. He went on:
<quote>
Because of this, I thought I'd give trinity a go, but that doesn't
appear to have a vivid release yet.
It looks like it's not my day today.
</quote>
I hastily wrote sending my guess at the repository entry for Vivid, which I
immediately confirmed here and ratified to him.
He replied:
<quote>
Thanks for that.
I was trying to follow the instructions from trinitydesktop.org and
using the pearsoncomputing ppa.
Have I been looking in the wrong place?
[snip]
I used the repository you suggested, and I've installed trinity
successfully.
[snip]
Until you mentioned it I had no idea that there
were other repos for trinity.
</quote>
Whilst R14 preliminary-stable-builds has no pretensions to being Stable, it
is stable and is a valuable resource to us and could be to others. It
seems worthy of a mention.
Lisi
Friends, I have prepared the following wiki page:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
Any suggestions on where to put the page on the wiki to be easily accessible
to users?
--
Slávek
2:39 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Can we have a mention of Slávek's repository on the web-site?
On Thursday 30 April 2015 05:13:21 pm Slávek Banko wrote:
On Thursday 30 of April 2015 22:42:37 Lisi Reisz
wrote:
Darn..there goes the bandwidth :-)
--
Greg M
Can we have a mention of Slávek's R14
preliminary-stable-builds
repository on the web-site?
With a short explanation of what it is, along the lines of: more
up-to-date versions and other architectures/distros can be found at...and
perhaps the following from an email of Slávek's:
1) Add the source to sources.list:
deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb *distribution-name* deps-r14
main-r14
2) From some public GPG keyserver download the key and import it into
APT: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pks.gpg.cz --recv-keys ED1F4884
Explanation of why I thought of it now:
Yesterday someone on one of my local LUGs' mailing list complained that
when he upgraded to Vivid his DE went to pot - I won't bore you with the
details. He went on:
<quote>
Because of this, I thought I'd give trinity a go, but that doesn't
appear to have a vivid release yet.
It looks like it's not my day today.
</quote>
I hastily wrote sending my guess at the repository entry for Vivid, which
I immediately confirmed here and ratified to him.
He replied:
<quote>
Thanks for that.
I was trying to follow the instructions from trinitydesktop.org and
using the pearsoncomputing ppa.
Have I been looking in the wrong place?
[snip]
I used the repository you suggested, and I've installed trinity
successfully.
[snip]
Until you mentioned it I had no idea that there
were other repos for trinity.
</quote>
Whilst R14 preliminary-stable-builds has no pretensions to being Stable,
it is stable and is a valuable resource to us and could be to others. It
seems worthy of a mention.
Lisi
Friends, I have prepared the following wiki page:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
Any suggestions on where to put the page on the wiki to be easily
accessible to users?
9:10 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Can we have a mention of Slávek's repository on the web-site?
On Friday 01 May 2015 02:13:21 Slávek Banko wrote:
Friends, I have prepared the following wiki page:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
Any suggestions on where to put the page on the wiki to be easily
accessible to users?
Here:
https://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases.php
Lower down the page, but in with the heading in the same font, colour and size
as "Select an official release version below to get release notes and
download links".
Something along the lines of:
Need a version not available in our official releases? Or more up to date
software? Then see:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
for Preliminary Stable Builds for Debian, Raspbian and Ubuntu
My wording doesn't quite fit the style of the page and needs some revamping,
but that is the essence of what I think is needed. For every one person who
writes about his frustration to his local LUG, and finds someone who can put
him right, there may be ten or more who have just gone away.
I think that it is important that it be on that page, and reasonably
conspicuous. That page is hyperlinked from "Get Trinity". It needs to give
the best available answer to that quest.
Lisi
2:45 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Can we have a mention of Slávek's repository on the web-site?
On Friday 01 of May 2015 11:10:00 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 01 May 2015 02:13:21 Slávek Banko wrote:
And how about this?
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DebianInstall
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/UbuntuInstall
--
Slávek
Friends, I have prepared the following wiki
page:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
Any suggestions on where to put the page on the wiki to be easily
accessible to users?
Here:
https://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases.php
Lower down the page, but in with the heading in the same font, colour and
size as "Select an official release version below to get release notes and
download links".
Something along the lines of:
Need a version not available in our official releases? Or more up to date
software? Then see:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
for Preliminary Stable Builds for Debian, Raspbian and Ubuntu
My wording doesn't quite fit the style of the page and needs some
revamping, but that is the essence of what I think is needed. For every
one person who writes about his frustration to his local LUG, and finds
someone who can put him right, there may be ten or more who have just gone
away.
I think that it is important that it be on that page, and reasonably
conspicuous. That page is hyperlinked from "Get Trinity". It needs to
give the best available answer to that quest.
Lisi
10:13 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Can we have a mention of Slávek's repository on the web-site?
On Friday 01 May 2015 15:45:37 Slávek Banko wrote:
On Friday 01 of May 2015 11:10:00 Lisi Reisz wrote:
Marvellous! Thank you.
Lisi
On Friday 01 May 2015 02:13:21 Slávek Banko
wrote:
And how about this?
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DebianInstall
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/UbuntuInstall Friends, I have prepared the following wiki
page:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
Any suggestions on where to put the page on the wiki to be easily
accessible to users?
Here:
https://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases.php
Lower down the page, but in with the heading in the same font, colour and
size as "Select an official release version below to get release notes
and download links".
Something along the lines of:
Need a version not available in our official releases? Or more up to
date software? Then see:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
for Preliminary Stable Builds for Debian, Raspbian and Ubuntu
My wording doesn't quite fit the style of the page and needs some
revamping, but that is the essence of what I think is needed. For every
one person who writes about his frustration to his local LUG, and finds
someone who can put him right, there may be ten or more who have just
gone away.
I think that it is important that it be on that page, and reasonably
conspicuous. That page is hyperlinked from "Get Trinity". It needs to
give the best available answer to that quest.
Lisi 
11 May
11 May
9:04 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Can we have a mention of Slávek's repository on the web-site?
I am installing Jessie in an virgin amd64 machine, and I want to install
TDE in it. I found Slávek's preliminary stable builds of R14.0.1 which
I understand is what should be used for Trinity for now.
First however I wanted to download the GPG key; so as root I ran the
following:
apt-key adv --keyserver pks.gpg.cz --recv-key A04BE668
The command returned the following:
gpgkeys: key A04BE668 can't be retrieved
gpg: no valid openPGP data found
gpg: Total number processed: 0
Lisi in her original post mentioned ken ED1F4884. That one did not
work either.
It is safe to download files from http://mirror.xcer.cx/trinity-sb
without authentication?
Regards, Ken Heard
9:11 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Can we have a mention of Slávek's repository on the web-site?
On Monday 11 of May 2015 23:04:26 Ken Heard wrote:
I am installing Jessie in an virgin amd64 machine, and
I want to install
TDE in it. I found Slávek's preliminary stable builds of R14.0.1 which
I understand is what should be used for Trinity for now.
First however I wanted to download the GPG key; so as root I ran the
following:
apt-key adv --keyserver pks.gpg.cz --recv-key A04BE668
The command returned the following:
gpgkeys: key A04BE668 can't be retrieved
gpg: no valid openPGP data found
gpg: Total number processed: 0
Lisi in her original post mentioned ken ED1F4884. That one did not
work either.
It is safe to download files from http://mirror.xcer.cx/trinity-sb
without authentication?
Regards, Ken Heard
It seems that pks.gpg.cz still has a problem - it returns 500 Internal Server
Error. You can use another public keyserver:
keys.gnupg.net
pgp.mit.edu
pgp.zdv.uni-mainz.de
keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net
--
Slávek
9:17 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Can we have a mention of Slávek's repository on the web-site?
On Monday 11 May 2015 22:04:26 Ken Heard wrote:
I am installing Jessie in an virgin amd64 machine, and
I want to install
TDE in it. I found Slávek's preliminary stable builds of R14.0.1 which
I understand is what should be used for Trinity for now.
First however I wanted to download the GPG key; so as root I ran the
following:
apt-key adv --keyserver pks.gpg.cz --recv-key A04BE668
The command returned the following:
gpgkeys: key A04BE668 can't be retrieved
gpg: no valid openPGP data found
gpg: Total number processed: 0
Lisi in her original post mentioned ken ED1F4884. That one did not
work either.
It is safe to download files from http://mirror.xcer.cx/trinity-sb
without authentication?
Safety is as as safety does. I have done it! But would not recommend it to
anyone else.
The problem is ongoing, it turns out, and the problem lies with the server.
Alternative servers suggested by Slávek earlier in this thread:
keys.gnupg.net
pgp.mit.edu
pgp.zdv.uni-mainz.de
keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net
ED1F4884 was an old key, as it turned out, and was therefore wrong.
Lisi
12 May
12 May
2:52 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Can we have a mention of Slávek's repository on the web-site?
On 2015-05-11 17:17, Lisi Reisz wrote:
<snip>
Lisi I am confused. Are you recommending against downloading packages
without authentication or using a preliminary stable build of TDE
R14.0.1 -- or both?
It is safe to
download files from http://mirror.xcer.cx/trinity-sb
without authentication?
Safety is as as safety does. I have done it! But would not recommend it to
anyone else. The problem is ongoing, it turns out, and the problem
lies with the server.
Alternative servers suggested by Slávek earlier in this thread:
With this key server I was able to download the key I needed. Thank you
Lisi and Slávek.
Regards, Ken
3:32 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Can we have a mention of Slávek's repository on the web-site?
Ken in Debian and its derivatives keys are a security feature that
indicates the signer of the key is the person or organisation who packages
what you are downloading. If you install packages without a key it could be
suggested you don't know who packaged it or if it has been modified from
the original package.
Lisi is correct in her statement "safety is as safety does" in that if you
are happy to download packages you believe are packaged by Slavek or Tim or
anyone else involved with Trinity without a signed key to check it against
then you take it upon yourself to ensure the package is what it is supposed
to be. If you want the extra layer of security then it is always wise to
have the key and let apt do its job confirming the package against the key
for the person or organisation that packaged it.
On 12 May 2015 at 12:52, Ken Heard <kenslists(a)teksavvy.com> wrote:
On 2015-05-11 17:17, Lisi Reisz wrote:
<snip
It is safe to download files from http://mirror.xcer.cx/trinity-sb
Lisi I am confused. Are you recommending against downloading packages
without authentication or using a preliminary stable build of TDE R14.0.1
-- or both?
The problem is ongoing, it turns out, and the problem lies with the
With this key server I was able to download the key I needed. Thank you
Lisi and Slávek.
Regards, Ken
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without
authentication?
Safety is as as safety does. I have done it! But would not recommend
it to
anyone else.
server.
Alternative servers suggested by Slávek earlier in this thread:
keys.gnupg.net
1:36 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Can we have a mention of Slávek's repository on the web-site?
On 2015-05-11 23:32, Michael . wrote:
Ken in Debian and its derivatives keys are a security
feature that
indicates the signer of the key is the person or organisation who
packages what you are downloading. If you install packages without a key
it could be suggested you don't know who packaged it or if it has been
modified from the original package.
Lisi is correct in her statement "safety is as safety does" in that if
you are happy to download packages you believe are packaged by Slavek or
Tim or anyone else involved with Trinity without a signed key to check
it against then you take it upon yourself to ensure the package is what
it is supposed to be. If you want the extra layer of security then it is
always wise to have the key and let apt do its job confirming the
package against the key for the person or organisation that packaged it.
The only reason I was even thinking of downloading packages without
authentication was because I could not download the key. Now, with help
from Lisi and Slávek, I have the key and can now download the R14.0.1
packages with perfect impunity.
Regards, Ken
9:18 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Can we have a mention of Slávek's repository on the web-site?
On Tuesday 12 May 2015 03:52:13 Ken Heard wrote:
On 2015-05-11 17:17, Lisi Reisz wrote:
<snip>
Lisi I am confused. Are you recommending against downloading packages
without authentication or using a preliminary stable build of TDE
R14.0.1 -- or both?
I am recommending against downloading packages without authentication. I have
used Slávek's repositories for ages and certainly recommend doing so, in this
case I recommend using the preliminary stable build of TDE R14.0.1.
I hope that I have sufficiently clarified. Feel free to ask again if I have
not. Sorry that I was ambiguous in the first place.
Lisi
It is
safe to download files from http://mirror.xcer.cx/trinity-sb
without authentication?
Safety is as as safety does. I have done it! But would not recommend
it to anyone else.
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