Can we have a mention of Slávek's R14 preliminary-stable-builds repository on the web-site?
With a short explanation of what it is, along the lines of: more up-to-date versions and other architectures/distros can be found at...and perhaps the following from an email of Slávek's: 1) Add the source to sources.list: deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb *distribution-name* deps-r14 main-r14
2) From some public GPG keyserver download the key and import it into APT: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pks.gpg.cz --recv-keys ED1F4884
Explanation of why I thought of it now:
Yesterday someone on one of my local LUGs' mailing list complained that when he upgraded to Vivid his DE went to pot - I won't bore you with the details. He went on:
<quote> Because of this, I thought I'd give trinity a go, but that doesn't appear to have a vivid release yet.
It looks like it's not my day today. </quote>
I hastily wrote sending my guess at the repository entry for Vivid, which I immediately confirmed here and ratified to him.
He replied:
<quote> Thanks for that.
I was trying to follow the instructions from trinitydesktop.org and using the pearsoncomputing ppa.
Have I been looking in the wrong place?
[snip]
I used the repository you suggested, and I've installed trinity successfully. [snip] Until you mentioned it I had no idea that there were other repos for trinity. </quote>
Whilst R14 preliminary-stable-builds has no pretensions to being Stable, it is stable and is a valuable resource to us and could be to others. It seems worthy of a mention.
Lisi
On Thursday 30 April 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:
Whilst R14 preliminary-stable-builds has no pretensions to being Stable, it is stable and is a valuable resource to us and could be to others. It seems worthy of a mention.
Lisi
+1
Gerhard
On Thursday 30 of April 2015 22:42:37 Lisi Reisz wrote:
Can we have a mention of Slávek's R14 preliminary-stable-builds repository on the web-site?
With a short explanation of what it is, along the lines of: more up-to-date versions and other architectures/distros can be found at...and perhaps the following from an email of Slávek's:
- Add the source to sources.list:
deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb *distribution-name* deps-r14 main-r14
- From some public GPG keyserver download the key and import it into APT:
sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pks.gpg.cz --recv-keys ED1F4884
Explanation of why I thought of it now:
Yesterday someone on one of my local LUGs' mailing list complained that when he upgraded to Vivid his DE went to pot - I won't bore you with the details. He went on:
<quote> Because of this, I thought I'd give trinity a go, but that doesn't appear to have a vivid release yet.
It looks like it's not my day today.
</quote>
I hastily wrote sending my guess at the repository entry for Vivid, which I immediately confirmed here and ratified to him.
He replied:
<quote> Thanks for that.
I was trying to follow the instructions from trinitydesktop.org and using the pearsoncomputing ppa.
Have I been looking in the wrong place?
[snip]
I used the repository you suggested, and I've installed trinity successfully. [snip] Until you mentioned it I had no idea that there were other repos for trinity.
</quote>
Whilst R14 preliminary-stable-builds has no pretensions to being Stable, it is stable and is a valuable resource to us and could be to others. It seems worthy of a mention.
Lisi
Friends, I have prepared the following wiki page:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
Any suggestions on where to put the page on the wiki to be easily accessible to users?
On Thursday 30 April 2015 05:13:21 pm Slávek Banko wrote:
On Thursday 30 of April 2015 22:42:37 Lisi Reisz wrote:
Can we have a mention of Slávek's R14 preliminary-stable-builds repository on the web-site?
With a short explanation of what it is, along the lines of: more up-to-date versions and other architectures/distros can be found at...and perhaps the following from an email of Slávek's:
- Add the source to sources.list:
deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb *distribution-name* deps-r14 main-r14
- From some public GPG keyserver download the key and import it into
APT: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pks.gpg.cz --recv-keys ED1F4884
Explanation of why I thought of it now:
Yesterday someone on one of my local LUGs' mailing list complained that when he upgraded to Vivid his DE went to pot - I won't bore you with the details. He went on:
<quote> Because of this, I thought I'd give trinity a go, but that doesn't appear to have a vivid release yet.
It looks like it's not my day today.
</quote>
I hastily wrote sending my guess at the repository entry for Vivid, which I immediately confirmed here and ratified to him.
He replied:
<quote> Thanks for that.
I was trying to follow the instructions from trinitydesktop.org and using the pearsoncomputing ppa.
Have I been looking in the wrong place?
[snip]
I used the repository you suggested, and I've installed trinity successfully. [snip] Until you mentioned it I had no idea that there were other repos for trinity.
</quote>
Whilst R14 preliminary-stable-builds has no pretensions to being Stable, it is stable and is a valuable resource to us and could be to others. It seems worthy of a mention.
Lisi
Friends, I have prepared the following wiki page:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
Any suggestions on where to put the page on the wiki to be easily accessible to users?
Darn..there goes the bandwidth :-)
On Friday 01 May 2015 02:13:21 Slávek Banko wrote:
Friends, I have prepared the following wiki page:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
Any suggestions on where to put the page on the wiki to be easily accessible to users?
Here: https://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases.php
Lower down the page, but in with the heading in the same font, colour and size as "Select an official release version below to get release notes and download links".
Something along the lines of: Need a version not available in our official releases? Or more up to date software? Then see: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds for Preliminary Stable Builds for Debian, Raspbian and Ubuntu
My wording doesn't quite fit the style of the page and needs some revamping, but that is the essence of what I think is needed. For every one person who writes about his frustration to his local LUG, and finds someone who can put him right, there may be ten or more who have just gone away.
I think that it is important that it be on that page, and reasonably conspicuous. That page is hyperlinked from "Get Trinity". It needs to give the best available answer to that quest.
Lisi
On Friday 01 of May 2015 11:10:00 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 01 May 2015 02:13:21 Slávek Banko wrote:
Friends, I have prepared the following wiki page:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
Any suggestions on where to put the page on the wiki to be easily accessible to users?
Here: https://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases.php
Lower down the page, but in with the heading in the same font, colour and size as "Select an official release version below to get release notes and download links".
Something along the lines of: Need a version not available in our official releases? Or more up to date software? Then see: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds for Preliminary Stable Builds for Debian, Raspbian and Ubuntu
My wording doesn't quite fit the style of the page and needs some revamping, but that is the essence of what I think is needed. For every one person who writes about his frustration to his local LUG, and finds someone who can put him right, there may be ten or more who have just gone away.
I think that it is important that it be on that page, and reasonably conspicuous. That page is hyperlinked from "Get Trinity". It needs to give the best available answer to that quest.
Lisi
And how about this?
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DebianInstall https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/UbuntuInstall
On Friday 01 May 2015 15:45:37 Slávek Banko wrote:
On Friday 01 of May 2015 11:10:00 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 01 May 2015 02:13:21 Slávek Banko wrote:
Friends, I have prepared the following wiki page:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
Any suggestions on where to put the page on the wiki to be easily accessible to users?
Here: https://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases.php
Lower down the page, but in with the heading in the same font, colour and size as "Select an official release version below to get release notes and download links".
Something along the lines of: Need a version not available in our official releases? Or more up to date software? Then see: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds for Preliminary Stable Builds for Debian, Raspbian and Ubuntu
My wording doesn't quite fit the style of the page and needs some revamping, but that is the essence of what I think is needed. For every one person who writes about his frustration to his local LUG, and finds someone who can put him right, there may be ten or more who have just gone away.
I think that it is important that it be on that page, and reasonably conspicuous. That page is hyperlinked from "Get Trinity". It needs to give the best available answer to that quest.
Lisi
And how about this?
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DebianInstall https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/UbuntuInstall
Marvellous! Thank you.
Lisi
I am installing Jessie in an virgin amd64 machine, and I want to install TDE in it. I found Slávek's preliminary stable builds of R14.0.1 which I understand is what should be used for Trinity for now.
First however I wanted to download the GPG key; so as root I ran the following:
apt-key adv --keyserver pks.gpg.cz --recv-key A04BE668
The command returned the following:
gpgkeys: key A04BE668 can't be retrieved gpg: no valid openPGP data found gpg: Total number processed: 0
Lisi in her original post mentioned ken ED1F4884. That one did not work either.
It is safe to download files from http://mirror.xcer.cx/trinity-sb without authentication?
Regards, Ken Heard
On Monday 11 of May 2015 23:04:26 Ken Heard wrote:
I am installing Jessie in an virgin amd64 machine, and I want to install TDE in it. I found Slávek's preliminary stable builds of R14.0.1 which I understand is what should be used for Trinity for now.
First however I wanted to download the GPG key; so as root I ran the following:
apt-key adv --keyserver pks.gpg.cz --recv-key A04BE668
The command returned the following:
gpgkeys: key A04BE668 can't be retrieved gpg: no valid openPGP data found gpg: Total number processed: 0
Lisi in her original post mentioned ken ED1F4884. That one did not work either.
It is safe to download files from http://mirror.xcer.cx/trinity-sb without authentication?
Regards, Ken Heard
It seems that pks.gpg.cz still has a problem - it returns 500 Internal Server Error. You can use another public keyserver:
keys.gnupg.net pgp.mit.edu pgp.zdv.uni-mainz.de keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net
On Monday 11 May 2015 22:04:26 Ken Heard wrote:
I am installing Jessie in an virgin amd64 machine, and I want to install TDE in it. I found Slávek's preliminary stable builds of R14.0.1 which I understand is what should be used for Trinity for now.
First however I wanted to download the GPG key; so as root I ran the following:
apt-key adv --keyserver pks.gpg.cz --recv-key A04BE668
The command returned the following:
gpgkeys: key A04BE668 can't be retrieved gpg: no valid openPGP data found gpg: Total number processed: 0
Lisi in her original post mentioned ken ED1F4884. That one did not work either.
It is safe to download files from http://mirror.xcer.cx/trinity-sb without authentication?
Safety is as as safety does. I have done it! But would not recommend it to anyone else.
The problem is ongoing, it turns out, and the problem lies with the server. Alternative servers suggested by Slávek earlier in this thread:
keys.gnupg.net pgp.mit.edu pgp.zdv.uni-mainz.de keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net
ED1F4884 was an old key, as it turned out, and was therefore wrong.
Lisi
On 2015-05-11 17:17, Lisi Reisz wrote:
<snip>
It is safe to download files from http://mirror.xcer.cx/trinity-sb without authentication?
Safety is as as safety does. I have done it! But would not recommend it to anyone else.
Lisi I am confused. Are you recommending against downloading packages without authentication or using a preliminary stable build of TDE R14.0.1 -- or both?
The problem is ongoing, it turns out, and the problem lies with the server. Alternative servers suggested by Slávek earlier in this thread:
keys.gnupg.net
With this key server I was able to download the key I needed. Thank you Lisi and Slávek.
Regards, Ken
Ken in Debian and its derivatives keys are a security feature that indicates the signer of the key is the person or organisation who packages what you are downloading. If you install packages without a key it could be suggested you don't know who packaged it or if it has been modified from the original package.
Lisi is correct in her statement "safety is as safety does" in that if you are happy to download packages you believe are packaged by Slavek or Tim or anyone else involved with Trinity without a signed key to check it against then you take it upon yourself to ensure the package is what it is supposed to be. If you want the extra layer of security then it is always wise to have the key and let apt do its job confirming the package against the key for the person or organisation that packaged it.
On 12 May 2015 at 12:52, Ken Heard kenslists@teksavvy.com wrote:
On 2015-05-11 17:17, Lisi Reisz wrote:
<snip>
It is safe to download files from http://mirror.xcer.cx/trinity-sb
without authentication?
Safety is as as safety does. I have done it! But would not recommend it to anyone else.
Lisi I am confused. Are you recommending against downloading packages without authentication or using a preliminary stable build of TDE R14.0.1 -- or both?
The problem is ongoing, it turns out, and the problem lies with the
server. Alternative servers suggested by Slávek earlier in this thread:
keys.gnupg.net
With this key server I was able to download the key I needed. Thank you Lisi and Slávek.
Regards, Ken
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On 2015-05-11 23:32, Michael . wrote:
Ken in Debian and its derivatives keys are a security feature that indicates the signer of the key is the person or organisation who packages what you are downloading. If you install packages without a key it could be suggested you don't know who packaged it or if it has been modified from the original package.
Lisi is correct in her statement "safety is as safety does" in that if you are happy to download packages you believe are packaged by Slavek or Tim or anyone else involved with Trinity without a signed key to check it against then you take it upon yourself to ensure the package is what it is supposed to be. If you want the extra layer of security then it is always wise to have the key and let apt do its job confirming the package against the key for the person or organisation that packaged it.
The only reason I was even thinking of downloading packages without authentication was because I could not download the key. Now, with help from Lisi and Slávek, I have the key and can now download the R14.0.1 packages with perfect impunity.
Regards, Ken
On Tuesday 12 May 2015 03:52:13 Ken Heard wrote:
On 2015-05-11 17:17, Lisi Reisz wrote:
<snip>
It is safe to download files from http://mirror.xcer.cx/trinity-sb without authentication?
Safety is as as safety does. I have done it! But would not recommend it to anyone else.
Lisi I am confused. Are you recommending against downloading packages without authentication or using a preliminary stable build of TDE R14.0.1 -- or both?
I am recommending against downloading packages without authentication. I have used Slávek's repositories for ages and certainly recommend doing so, in this case I recommend using the preliminary stable build of TDE R14.0.1.
I hope that I have sufficiently clarified. Feel free to ask again if I have not. Sorry that I was ambiguous in the first place.
Lisi
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