So this is a brand-new thread, because I want to set a good example for others. (That's me, a role model to the youth ...)
I encountered a problem in the newest version of Konqueror that did not seem to exist in the older versions, so far as I know.
When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external, mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in the address bar:
media:/
This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well as allowing access to various tools and settings for working with those disks and partitions. I don't use it often (relatively speaking), but now I find that I cannot use it at all when running Konqueror as root.
See attachments for screenshots. (Note that my weird colors in root are intentional; I override some settings to make it easier on my old eyes.) I already tested this on a fresh installation, before applying any customized settings.
When it's not there, I find that I need to use it much more than I remember.
I am sure that there are other ways to obtain the same information, other ways to accomplish the same things -- and I would be glad to hear them -- but for now, however, I really want to retrieve these tools. I have installed some new hard drives, and as usual, they need some help in finding their proper place in my system.
Thanks for any help or suggestions!
Bill
jabber/xmpp dr_mojo_contendo@hot-chilli.net
William Morder via tde-users wrote:
When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external, mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in the address bar:
media:/
This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well as allowing access to various tools and settings for working with those disks and partitions. I don't use it often (relatively speaking), but now I find that I cannot use it at all when running Konqueror as root.
Isn't it using dbus and dbus is not running for root?
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On Monday 07 September 2020 22:53:46 deloptes via tde-users wrote:
William Morder via tde-users wrote:
When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external, mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in the address bar:
media:/
This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well as allowing access to various tools and settings for working with those disks and partitions. I don't use it often (relatively speaking), but now I find that I cannot use it at all when running Konqueror as root.
Isn't it using dbus and dbus is not running for root?
I don't know. It used to work for me before, in Jessie, and especially when running Kubuntu.
Is there a way to make it possible?
Bill
On Tuesday 08 September 2020 01:04:43 am William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Monday 07 September 2020 22:53:46 deloptes via tde-users wrote:
William Morder via tde-users wrote:
When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external, mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in the address bar:
media:/
This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well as allowing access to various tools and settings for working with those disks and partitions. I don't use it often (relatively speaking), but now I find that I cannot use it at all when running Konqueror as root.
Isn't it using dbus and dbus is not running for root?
I don't know. It used to work for me before, in Jessie, and especially when running Kubuntu.
I get that message in both root and user level Konqueror.
But! I know media:/ works just after sticking in a thumb drive as it does it's auto-mount thing and then a Konqueror pop-up with media:/{thumb-drive} in the Location bar.
my 2 cents, Michael
On Tuesday 08 September 2020 09:18:30 am Michael via tde-users wrote:
On Tuesday 08 September 2020 01:04:43 am William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Monday 07 September 2020 22:53:46 deloptes via tde-users wrote:
William Morder via tde-users wrote:
When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external, mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in the address bar:
media:/
This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well as allowing access to various tools and settings for working with those disks and partitions. I don't use it often (relatively speaking), but now I find that I cannot use it at all when running Konqueror as root.
Isn't it using dbus and dbus is not running for root?
I don't know. It used to work for me before, in Jessie, and especially when running Kubuntu.
I get that message in both root and user level Konqueror.
But! I know media:/ works just after sticking in a thumb drive as it does it's auto-mount thing and then a Konqueror pop-up with media:/{thumb-drive} in the Location bar.
my 2 cents, Michael
My 2 cents is no longer valid. The auto-mount thing no longer auto-mounts.
- This system* was built ~7/25, auto-mount worked correctly then. - AFAIK auto-mount worked correctly around 8/15. - Last rebooted 8/26. - As of today, 9/13, sticking in a USB drive does not auto-mount. - Manually mounting works.
Anyone know what changed in the last month or so?
Best, Michael
* MX19 (Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)) R14.0.8
On Sunday 13 September 2020 07:55:00 Michael via tde-users wrote:
On Tuesday 08 September 2020 09:18:30 am Michael via tde-users wrote:
On Tuesday 08 September 2020 01:04:43 am William Morder via tde-users
wrote:
On Monday 07 September 2020 22:53:46 deloptes via tde-users wrote:
William Morder via tde-users wrote:
When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external, mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in the address bar:
media:/
This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well as allowing access to various tools and settings for working with those disks and partitions. I don't use it often (relatively speaking), but now I find that I cannot use it at all when running Konqueror as root.
Isn't it using dbus and dbus is not running for root?
I don't know. It used to work for me before, in Jessie, and especially when running Kubuntu.
I get that message in both root and user level Konqueror.
But! I know media:/ works just after sticking in a thumb drive as it does it's auto-mount thing and then a Konqueror pop-up with media:/{thumb-drive} in the Location bar.
my 2 cents, Michael
My 2 cents is no longer valid. The auto-mount thing no longer auto-mounts.
- This system* was built ~7/25, auto-mount worked correctly then.
- AFAIK auto-mount worked correctly around 8/15.
- Last rebooted 8/26.
- As of today, 9/13, sticking in a USB drive does not auto-mount.
- Manually mounting works.
Anyone know what changed in the last month or so?
Best, Michael
And here was I thinking that it was all in my head. Besides these problems, I have other weird developments; like, for example, my customized mount points no longer being recognized.
Not a big problem, usually, when things sometimes get messed up. I have an automount script that maybe needs to be overwritten once again with my settings; also there is fstab. But now, not only are things getting screwed-up, not only did I have a failed hard drive that now will not mount, but also, all my external hard drives are making up their own names for mount points, and inserting themselves in places where they don't belong (where I didn't put them).
I have used the same basic setup now for years and years. Suddenly everything is upside-down.
It seems like these events may be connected to some deeper issues.
Bill
On Sunday 13 September 2020 12:58:14 pm William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 13 September 2020 07:55:00 Michael via tde-users wrote:
On Tuesday 08 September 2020 09:18:30 am Michael via tde-users wrote:
On Tuesday 08 September 2020 01:04:43 am William Morder via tde-users
wrote:
On Monday 07 September 2020 22:53:46 deloptes via tde-users wrote:
William Morder via tde-users wrote:
When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external, mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in the address bar:
media:/
This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well as allowing access to various tools and settings for working with those disks and partitions. I don't use it often (relatively speaking), but now I find that I cannot use it at all when running Konqueror as root.
Isn't it using dbus and dbus is not running for root?
I don't know. It used to work for me before, in Jessie, and especially when running Kubuntu.
I get that message in both root and user level Konqueror.
But! I know media:/ works just after sticking in a thumb drive as it does it's auto-mount thing and then a Konqueror pop-up with media:/{thumb-drive} in the Location bar.
my 2 cents, Michael
My 2 cents is no longer valid. The auto-mount thing no longer auto-mounts.
- This system* was built ~7/25, auto-mount worked correctly then.
- AFAIK auto-mount worked correctly around 8/15.
- Last rebooted 8/26.
- As of today, 9/13, sticking in a USB drive does not auto-mount.
- Manually mounting works.
Anyone know what changed in the last month or so?
Best, Michael
And here was I thinking that it was all in my head. Besides these problems, I have other weird developments; like, for example, my customized mount points no longer being recognized.
I needed to reboot and now auto-mount and media:/ work correctly again for normal user.
root - Konqueror, throws errors:
media:/
The TDE mediamanager is not running.
During the previous startup, KNotify crashed while instantiating KNotify. Do you want to try again or disable aRts sound output? If you choose to disable aRts output now, you can re-enable it later or select an alternate sound player in the System Notifications control panel.
On Sunday 13 September 2020, Michael via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 13 September 2020 12:58:14 pm William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 13 September 2020 07:55:00 Michael via tde-users wrote:
On Tuesday 08 September 2020 09:18:30 am Michael via tde-users wrote:
On Tuesday 08 September 2020 01:04:43 am William Morder via tde-users
wrote:
On Monday 07 September 2020 22:53:46 deloptes via tde-users wrote:
William Morder via tde-users wrote: > When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external, > mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in > the address bar: > > media:/ > > This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well > as allowing access to various tools and settings for working > with those disks and partitions. I don't use it often > (relatively speaking), but now I find that I cannot use it at > all when running Konqueror as root.
Isn't it using dbus and dbus is not running for root?
I don't know. It used to work for me before, in Jessie, and especially when running Kubuntu.
I get that message in both root and user level Konqueror.
But! I know media:/ works just after sticking in a thumb drive as it does it's auto-mount thing and then a Konqueror pop-up with media:/{thumb-drive} in the Location bar.
my 2 cents, Michael
My 2 cents is no longer valid. The auto-mount thing no longer auto-mounts.
- This system* was built ~7/25, auto-mount worked correctly then.
- AFAIK auto-mount worked correctly around 8/15.
- Last rebooted 8/26.
- As of today, 9/13, sticking in a USB drive does not auto-mount.
- Manually mounting works.
Anyone know what changed in the last month or so?
Best, Michael
And here was I thinking that it was all in my head. Besides these problems, I have other weird developments; like, for example, my customized mount points no longer being recognized.
I needed to reboot and now auto-mount and media:/ work correctly again for normal user.
root - Konqueror, throws errors:
media:/
The TDE mediamanager is not running.
During the previous startup, KNotify crashed while instantiating KNotify. Do you want to try again or disable aRts sound output? If you choose to disable aRts output now, you can re-enable it later or select an alternate sound player in the System Notifications control panel.
I also get the arts crash as root. No more info on that.
The TDE mediamanager thing happened to me when I had lib64ice6-1.0.10-1pclos2019.x86_64 installed. I downgraded to lib64ice6-1.0.9-2pclos2016.x86_64 and it stopped mostly.
Kate
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 12:23, BorgLabs - Kate Dravenborglabs4@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 13 September 2020, Michael via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 13 September 2020 12:58:14 pm William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 13 September 2020 07:55:00 Michael via tde-users wrote:
On Tuesday 08 September 2020 09:18:30 am Michael via tde-users wrote:
On Tuesday 08 September 2020 01:04:43 am William Morder via tde-users
wrote:
On Monday 07 September 2020 22:53:46 deloptes via tde-users wrote:
William Morder via tde-users wrote: > When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external, > mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in > the address bar: > > media:/ > > This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well > as allowing access to various tools and settings for working > with those disks and partitions. I don't use it often > (relatively speaking), but now I find that I cannot use it at > all when running Konqueror as root.
Isn't it using dbus and dbus is not running for root?
I don't know. It used to work for me before, in Jessie, and especially when running Kubuntu.
I get that message in both root and user level Konqueror.
But! I know media:/ works just after sticking in a thumb drive as it does it's auto-mount thing and then a Konqueror pop-up with media:/{thumb-drive} in the Location bar.
my 2 cents, Michael
My 2 cents is no longer valid. The auto-mount thing no longer auto-mounts.
- This system* was built ~7/25, auto-mount worked correctly then.
- AFAIK auto-mount worked correctly around 8/15.
- Last rebooted 8/26.
- As of today, 9/13, sticking in a USB drive does not auto-mount.
- Manually mounting works.
Anyone know what changed in the last month or so?
Best, Michael
And here was I thinking that it was all in my head. Besides these problems, I have other weird developments; like, for example, my customized mount points no longer being recognized.
I needed to reboot and now auto-mount and media:/ work correctly again for normal user.
root - Konqueror, throws errors:
media:/
The TDE mediamanager is not running.
During the previous startup, KNotify crashed while instantiating KNotify. Do you want to try again or disable aRts sound output? If you choose to disable aRts output now, you can re-enable it later or select an alternate sound player in the System Notifications control panel.
I also get the arts crash as root. No more info on that.
The TDE mediamanager thing happened to me when I had lib64ice6-1.0.10-1pclos2019.x86_64 installed. I downgraded to lib64ice6-1.0.9-2pclos2016.x86_64 and it stopped mostly.
Kate
I will inform others of this. Thanks Kate
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Anno domini 2020 Mon, 14 Sep 07:21:53 -0400 BorgLabs - Kate Draven via tde-users scripsit:
On Sunday 13 September 2020, Michael via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 13 September 2020 12:58:14 pm William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 13 September 2020 07:55:00 Michael via tde-users wrote:
On Tuesday 08 September 2020 09:18:30 am Michael via tde-users wrote:
On Tuesday 08 September 2020 01:04:43 am William Morder via tde-users
wrote:
On Monday 07 September 2020 22:53:46 deloptes via tde-users wrote: > William Morder via tde-users wrote: > > When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external, > > mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in > > the address bar: > > > > media:/ > > > > This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well > > as allowing access to various tools and settings for working > > with those disks and partitions. I don't use it often > > (relatively speaking), but now I find that I cannot use it at > > all when running Konqueror as root. > > Isn't it using dbus and dbus is not running for root?
I don't know. It used to work for me before, in Jessie, and especially when running Kubuntu.
I get that message in both root and user level Konqueror.
But! I know media:/ works just after sticking in a thumb drive as it does it's auto-mount thing and then a Konqueror pop-up with media:/{thumb-drive} in the Location bar.
my 2 cents, Michael
My 2 cents is no longer valid. The auto-mount thing no longer auto-mounts.
- This system* was built ~7/25, auto-mount worked correctly then.
- AFAIK auto-mount worked correctly around 8/15.
- Last rebooted 8/26.
- As of today, 9/13, sticking in a USB drive does not auto-mount.
- Manually mounting works.
Anyone know what changed in the last month or so?
Best, Michael
And here was I thinking that it was all in my head. Besides these problems, I have other weird developments; like, for example, my customized mount points no longer being recognized.
I needed to reboot and now auto-mount and media:/ work correctly again for normal user.
root - Konqueror, throws errors:
media:/
The TDE mediamanager is not running.
During the previous startup, KNotify crashed while instantiating KNotify. Do you want to try again or disable aRts sound output? If you choose to disable aRts output now, you can re-enable it later or select an alternate sound player in the System Notifications control panel.
I also get the arts crash as root. No more info on that.
The TDE mediamanager thing happened to me when I had lib64ice6-1.0.10-1pclos2019.x86_64 installed. I downgraded to lib64ice6-1.0.9-2pclos2016.x86_64 and it stopped mostly.
What is that "lib64ice6" ? I don't see it on devuan/beowulf.
For your entertainment: https://linuxreviews.org/Systemd-homed - just imagine that thing enabled on your systems ...
Nik
Kate
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On Monday 14 September 2020 04:31:41 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 14 Sep 07:21:53 -0400
BorgLabs - Kate Draven via tde-users scripsit:
On Sunday 13 September 2020, Michael via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 13 September 2020 12:58:14 pm William Morder via tde-users
wrote:
On Sunday 13 September 2020 07:55:00 Michael via tde-users wrote:
On Tuesday 08 September 2020 09:18:30 am Michael via tde-users
wrote:
On Tuesday 08 September 2020 01:04:43 am William Morder via tde-users
wrote:
> On Monday 07 September 2020 22:53:46 deloptes via tde-users
wrote:
> > William Morder via tde-users wrote: > > > When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external, > > > mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to > > > enter, in the address bar: > > > > > > media:/ > > > > > > This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as > > > well as allowing access to various tools and settings for > > > working with those disks and partitions. I don't use it > > > often (relatively speaking), but now I find that I cannot > > > use it at all when running Konqueror as root. > > > > Isn't it using dbus and dbus is not running for root? > > I don't know. It used to work for me before, in Jessie, and > especially when running Kubuntu.
I get that message in both root and user level Konqueror.
But! I know media:/ works just after sticking in a thumb drive as it does it's auto-mount thing and then a Konqueror pop-up with media:/{thumb-drive} in the Location bar.
my 2 cents, Michael
My 2 cents is no longer valid. The auto-mount thing no longer auto-mounts.
- This system* was built ~7/25, auto-mount worked correctly then.
- AFAIK auto-mount worked correctly around 8/15.
- Last rebooted 8/26.
- As of today, 9/13, sticking in a USB drive does not auto-mount.
- Manually mounting works.
Anyone know what changed in the last month or so?
Best, Michael
And here was I thinking that it was all in my head. Besides these problems, I have other weird developments; like, for example, my customized mount points no longer being recognized.
I needed to reboot and now auto-mount and media:/ work correctly again for normal user.
root - Konqueror, throws errors:
media:/
The TDE mediamanager is not running.
During the previous startup, KNotify crashed while instantiating KNotify. Do you want to try again or disable aRts sound output? If you choose to disable aRts output now, you can re-enable it later or select an alternate sound player in the System Notifications control panel.
I also get the arts crash as root. No more info on that.
The TDE mediamanager thing happened to me when I had lib64ice6-1.0.10-1pclos2019.x86_64 installed. I downgraded to lib64ice6-1.0.9-2pclos2016.x86_64 and it stopped mostly.
What is that "lib64ice6" ? I don't see it on devuan/beowulf.
For your entertainment: https://linuxreviews.org/Systemd-homed - just imagine that thing enabled on your systems ...
Nik
Kate
All this is very interesting, but I wonder what is causing it. Another thing that happens in my system recently (in the past few weeks): when I plug in a flash drive, suddenly a little bouncing icon for VLC starts up, meaning that something has awakened and is loading.
Problem is, VLC isn't installed on my system. I do install it now and again, because it's the only way that I can watch DVDs; other players just don't cut it. (For other videos, I tend to use smplayer.) But I have never installed VLC in this new system, devuan beowulf. When I look at what's running in top, nothing obvious shows up.
I've been transferring music files to micro SD cards, to put in smartphones for myself and a friend; and suddenly Konqueror has started created its own custom mount points, ignores fstab, ignores my automount scripts, basically is putting out something that looks like original defaults for those devices. (Before that, I couldn't get some of these gadgets to mount at all.)
So here is a sample of the "mount points"* that have been bestowed upon me, against my will, by some higher, non-human intelligence:
/media/Elements_25A1 /media/External_HDD____ /media/Mass_Storage_Device /media/My_Book_________ /media/<pete> /media/<user> /media/USB_Storage
* Note that names in brackets (< >) have been changed to protect the innocent; they are not my real mount points.
I always create my own unique names for mount points; names like Pete and Fred (though I am more inventive still ...) are easier to remember than keeping straight which drive is Mass_Storage_Device and which is USB_Storage, or Elements_25A1 or My_Book_________. (Incidentally, WTF with the weird lines???)
Another thing is, dbus seems to be acting weird, and I don't know enough about it to attempt corrections. I already have rather a lot on my plate at the moment.
These developments are all new, since my installation of beowulf/buster; I never had anything like this is jessie or before, never even with the old KDE3. It reminds me of those *other* DEs or OSs that I try so hard to avoid.
Somebody please make sense of these developing disasters.
Bill
On Tuesday 08 September 2020, William Morder via tde-users wrote:
So this is a brand-new thread, because I want to set a good example for others. (That's me, a role model to the youth ...)
I encountered a problem in the newest version of Konqueror that did not seem to exist in the older versions, so far as I know.
When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external, mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in the address bar:
media:/
This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well as allowing access to various tools and settings for working with those disks and partitions. I don't use it often (relatively speaking), but now I find that I cannot use it at all when running Konqueror as root.
See attachments for screenshots. (Note that my weird colors in root are intentional; I override some settings to make it easier on my old eyes.) I already tested this on a fresh installation, before applying any customized settings.
When it's not there, I find that I need to use it much more than I remember.
I am sure that there are other ways to obtain the same information, other ways to accomplish the same things -- and I would be glad to hear them -- but for now, however, I really want to retrieve these tools. I have installed some new hard drives, and as usual, they need some help in finding their proper place in my system.
Thanks for any help or suggestions!
Bill
jabber/xmpp dr_mojo_contendo@hot-chilli.net
Hi Bill
See if you have the following installed. trinity-tdebase-tdeio-plugins check for all "tdeio" stuff. I've also noticed trinity-tdeio-umountwrapper always gives me problems, so I remover it. Just in case you get some odd things trying to umount stuff.
Kate
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See if you have the following installed. trinity-tdebase-tdeio-plugins check for all "tdeio" stuff. I've also noticed trinity-tdeio-umountwrapper always gives me problems, so I remover it. Just in case you get some odd things trying to umount stuff.
Hi Kate, what problem do you have with trinity-tdeio-umountwrapper? Just wondering.
Cheers Michele
Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
what problem do you have with trinity-tdeio-umountwrapper? Just wondering.
+1
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