8 Sep
2020
8 Sep
'20
4:35 a.m.
So this is a brand-new thread, because I want to set a good example for
others. (That's me, a role model to the youth ...)
I encountered a problem in the newest version of Konqueror that did not seem
to exist in the older versions, so far as I know.
When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external, mounted/unmounted),
I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in the address bar:
media:/
This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well as allowing
access to various tools and settings for working with those disks and
partitions. I don't use it often (relatively speaking), but now I find that I
cannot use it at all when running Konqueror as root.
See attachments for screenshots. (Note that my weird colors in root are
intentional; I override some settings to make it easier on my old eyes.) I
already tested this on a fresh installation, before applying any customized
settings.
When it's not there, I find that I need to use it much more than I remember.
I am sure that there are other ways to obtain the same information, other ways
to accomplish the same things -- and I would be glad to hear them -- but for
now, however, I really want to retrieve these tools. I have installed some
new hard drives, and as usual, they need some help in finding their proper
place in my system.
Thanks for any help or suggestions!
Bill
jabber/xmpp
dr_mojo_contendo(a)hot-chilli.net
8 Sep
8 Sep
5:53 a.m.
William Morder via tde-users wrote:
When I want to inspect my hard drives
(internal/external,
mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in the
address bar:
media:/
This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well as allowing
access to various tools and settings for working with those disks and
partitions. I don't use it often (relatively speaking), but now I find
that I cannot use it at all when running Konqueror as root.
Isn't it using dbus and dbus is not running for root?
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6:04 a.m.
On Monday 07 September 2020 22:53:46 deloptes via tde-users wrote:
William Morder via tde-users wrote:
I don't know. It used to work for me before, in Jessie, and especially when
running Kubuntu.
Is there a way to make it possible?
Bill
When I want to inspect my hard drives
(internal/external,
mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in the
address bar:
media:/
This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well as
allowing access to various tools and settings for working with those
disks and partitions. I don't use it often (relatively speaking), but now
I find that I cannot use it at all when running Konqueror as root.
Isn't it using dbus and dbus is not running for root?
2:18 p.m.
On Tuesday 08 September 2020 01:04:43 am William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Monday 07 September 2020 22:53:46 deloptes via
tde-users wrote:
I get that message in both root and user level Konqueror.
But! I know media:/ works just after sticking in a thumb drive as it does
it's auto-mount thing and then a Konqueror pop-up with media:/{thumb-drive}
in the Location bar.
my 2 cents,
Michael
William Morder via tde-users wrote:
I don't know. It used to work for me before, in Jessie, and especially when
running Kubuntu. When I want to inspect my hard drives
(internal/external,
mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in the
address bar:
media:/
This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well as
allowing access to various tools and settings for working with those
disks and partitions. I don't use it often (relatively speaking), but
now I find that I cannot use it at all when running Konqueror as root.
Isn't it using dbus and dbus is not running for root?
13 Sep
13 Sep
2:55 p.m.
New subject: Auto-mount no longer auto-mounts (TDE mediamanager)
On Tuesday 08 September 2020 09:18:30 am Michael via tde-users wrote:
On Tuesday 08 September 2020 01:04:43 am William
Morder via tde-users wrote:
My 2 cents is no longer valid. The auto-mount thing no longer auto-mounts.
- This system* was built ~7/25, auto-mount worked correctly then.
- AFAIK auto-mount worked correctly around 8/15.
- Last rebooted 8/26.
- As of today, 9/13, sticking in a USB drive does not auto-mount.
- Manually mounting works.
Anyone know what changed in the last month or so?
Best,
Michael
*
MX19 (Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster))
R14.0.8
On Monday 07 September 2020 22:53:46 deloptes via
tde-users wrote:
I get that message in both root and user level Konqueror.
But! I know media:/ works just after sticking in a thumb drive as it does
it's auto-mount thing and then a Konqueror pop-up with media:/{thumb-drive}
in the Location bar.
my 2 cents,
Michael William Morder via tde-users wrote:
I don't know. It used to work for me before, in Jessie, and especially
when running Kubuntu. When I want to inspect my hard drives
(internal/external,
mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in the
address bar:
media:/
This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well as
allowing access to various tools and settings for working with those
disks and partitions. I don't use it often (relatively speaking), but
now I find that I cannot use it at all when running Konqueror as
root.
Isn't it using dbus and dbus is not running for root?
5:58 p.m.
New subject: Auto-mount no longer auto-mounts (TDE mediamanager)
On Sunday 13 September 2020 07:55:00 Michael via tde-users wrote:
My 2 cents is no longer valid. The auto-mount thing no longer auto-mounts.
- This system* was built ~7/25, auto-mount worked correctly then.
- AFAIK auto-mount worked correctly around 8/15.
- Last rebooted 8/26.
- As of today, 9/13, sticking in a USB drive does not auto-mount.
- Manually mounting works.
Anyone know what changed in the last month or so?
Best,
Michael
And here was I thinking that it was all in my head. Besides these problems, I
have other weird developments; like, for example, my customized mount points
no longer being recognized.
Not a big problem, usually, when things sometimes get messed up. I have an
automount script that maybe needs to be overwritten once again with my
settings; also there is fstab. But now, not only are things getting
screwed-up, not only did I have a failed hard drive that now will not mount,
but also, all my external hard drives are making up their own names for mount
points, and inserting themselves in places where they don't belong (where I
didn't put them).
I have used the same basic setup now for years and years. Suddenly everything
is upside-down.
It seems like these events may be connected to some deeper issues.
Bill
On Tuesday 08 September 2020 09:18:30 am Michael via
tde-users wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 September 2020 01:04:43 am William Morder via tde-users
wrote:
On Monday 07 September 2020 22:53:46 deloptes via
tde-users wrote:
I get that message in both root and user level Konqueror.
But! I know media:/ works just after sticking in a thumb drive as it
does it's auto-mount thing and then a Konqueror pop-up with
media:/{thumb-drive} in the Location bar.
my 2 cents,
Michael William Morder via tde-users wrote:
> When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external,
> mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in the
> address bar:
>
> media:/
>
> This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well as
> allowing access to various tools and settings for working with
> those disks and partitions. I don't use it often (relatively
> speaking), but now I find that I cannot use it at all when running
> Konqueror as root.
Isn't it using dbus and dbus is not running for root?
I don't know. It used to work for me before, in Jessie, and especially
when running Kubuntu.
14 Sep
14 Sep
2:20 a.m.
New subject: Auto-mount no longer auto-mounts (TDE mediamanager)
On Sunday 13 September 2020 12:58:14 pm William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 13 September 2020 07:55:00 Michael via
tde-users wrote:
My 2 cents is no longer valid. The auto-mount thing no longer
auto-mounts.
- This system* was built ~7/25, auto-mount worked correctly then.
- AFAIK auto-mount worked correctly around 8/15.
- Last rebooted 8/26.
- As of today, 9/13, sticking in a USB drive does not auto-mount.
- Manually mounting works.
Anyone know what changed in the last month or so?
Best,
Michael
And here was I thinking that it was all in my head. Besides these problems,
I have other weird developments; like, for example, my customized mount
points no longer being recognized.
I needed to reboot and now auto-mount and media:/ work correctly again for
normal user.
root - Konqueror, throws errors:
media:/
The TDE mediamanager is not running.
During the previous startup, KNotify crashed while instantiating KNotify. Do
you want to try again or disable aRts sound output?
If you choose to disable aRts output now, you can re-enable it later or select
an alternate sound player in the System Notifications control panel.
On Tuesday 08 September 2020 09:18:30 am Michael
via tde-users wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 September 2020 01:04:43 am William Morder via tde-users
wrote:
On Monday 07 September 2020 22:53:46 deloptes via
tde-users wrote:
> William Morder via tde-users wrote:
> > When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external,
> > mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in
> > the address bar:
> >
> > media:/
> >
> > This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well as
> > allowing access to various tools and settings for working with
> > those disks and partitions. I don't use it often (relatively
> > speaking), but now I find that I cannot use it at all when
> > running Konqueror as root.
>
> Isn't it using dbus and dbus is not running for root?
I don't know. It used to work for me before, in Jessie, and
especially when running Kubuntu.
I get that message in both root and user level Konqueror.
But! I know media:/ works just after sticking in a thumb drive as it
does it's auto-mount thing and then a Konqueror pop-up with
media:/{thumb-drive} in the Location bar.
my 2 cents,
Michael
11:21 a.m.
New subject: Auto-mount no longer auto-mounts (TDE mediamanager)
On Sunday 13 September 2020, Michael via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 13 September 2020 12:58:14 pm William Morder
via tde-users wrote:
I also get the arts crash as root.
No more info on that.
The TDE mediamanager thing happened to me when I had
lib64ice6-1.0.10-1pclos2019.x86_64 installed. I downgraded to
lib64ice6-1.0.9-2pclos2016.x86_64 and it stopped mostly.
Kate
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On Sunday 13 September 2020 07:55:00 Michael via
tde-users wrote:
And here was I thinking that it was all in my head. Besides these
problems, I have other weird developments; like, for example, my
customized mount points no longer being recognized.
I needed to reboot and now auto-mount and media:/ work correctly again for
normal user.
root - Konqueror, throws errors:
media:/
The TDE mediamanager is not running.
During the previous startup, KNotify crashed while instantiating KNotify.
Do you want to try again or disable aRts sound output?
If you choose to disable aRts output now, you can re-enable it later or
select an alternate sound player in the System Notifications control panel.
_______________________________________________ On Tuesday 08 September 2020 09:18:30 am Michael
via tde-users wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 September 2020 01:04:43 am William Morder via tde-users
wrote:
> On
Monday 07 September 2020 22:53:46 deloptes via tde-users wrote:
> > William Morder via tde-users wrote:
> > > When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external,
> > > mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in
> > > the address bar:
> > >
> > > media:/
> > >
> > > This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well
> > > as allowing access to various tools and settings for working
> > > with those disks and partitions. I don't use it often
> > > (relatively speaking), but now I find that I cannot use it at
> > > all when running Konqueror as root.
> >
> > Isn't it using dbus and dbus is not running for root?
>
> I don't know. It used to work for me before, in Jessie, and
> especially when running Kubuntu.
I get that message in both root and user level Konqueror.
But! I know media:/ works just after sticking in a thumb drive as it
does it's auto-mount thing and then a Konqueror pop-up with
media:/{thumb-drive} in the Location bar.
my 2 cents,
Michael
My 2 cents is no longer valid. The auto-mount thing no longer
auto-mounts.
- This system* was built ~7/25, auto-mount worked correctly then.
- AFAIK auto-mount worked correctly around 8/15.
- Last rebooted 8/26.
- As of today, 9/13, sticking in a USB drive does not auto-mount.
- Manually mounting works.
Anyone know what changed in the last month or so?
Best,
Michael
11:30 a.m.
New subject: Auto-mount no longer auto-mounts (TDE mediamanager)
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 12:23, BorgLabs - Kate Draven<borglabs4(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday 13 September 2020, Michael via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 13 September 2020 12:58:14 pm William Morder
via tde-users wrote:
I also get the arts crash as root.
No more info on that.
The TDE mediamanager thing happened to me when I had
lib64ice6-1.0.10-1pclos2019.x86_64 installed. I downgraded to
lib64ice6-1.0.9-2pclos2016.x86_64 and it stopped mostly.
Kate
I will inform others of this. Thanks Kate
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On Sunday 13 September 2020 07:55:00 Michael via
tde-users wrote:
And here was I thinking that it was all in my head. Besides these
problems, I have other weird developments; like, for example, my
customized mount points no longer being recognized.
I needed to reboot and now auto-mount and media:/ work correctly again for
normal user.
root - Konqueror, throws errors:
media:/
The TDE mediamanager is not running.
During the previous startup, KNotify crashed while instantiating KNotify.
Do you want to try again or disable aRts sound output?
If you choose to disable aRts output now, you can re-enable it later or
select an alternate sound player in the System Notifications control panel.
_______________________________________________ On Tuesday 08 September 2020 09:18:30 am Michael
via tde-users wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 September 2020 01:04:43 am William Morder via tde-users
wrote:
> On
Monday 07 September 2020 22:53:46 deloptes via tde-users wrote:
> > William Morder via tde-users wrote:
> > > When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external,
> > > mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in
> > > the address bar:
> > >
> > > media:/
> > >
> > > This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well
> > > as allowing access to various tools and settings for working
> > > with those disks and partitions. I don't use it often
> > > (relatively speaking), but now I find that I cannot use it at
> > > all when running Konqueror as root.
> >
> > Isn't it using dbus and dbus is not running for root?
>
> I don't know. It used to work for me before, in Jessie, and
> especially when running Kubuntu.
I get that message in both root and user level Konqueror.
But! I know media:/ works just after sticking in a thumb drive as it
does it's auto-mount thing and then a Konqueror pop-up with
media:/{thumb-drive} in the Location bar.
my 2 cents,
Michael
My 2 cents is no longer valid. The auto-mount thing no longer
auto-mounts.
- This system* was built ~7/25, auto-mount worked correctly then.
- AFAIK auto-mount worked correctly around 8/15.
- Last rebooted 8/26.
- As of today, 9/13, sticking in a USB drive does not auto-mount.
- Manually mounting works.
Anyone know what changed in the last month or so?
Best,
Michael 
11:31 a.m.
New subject: Auto-mount no longer auto-mounts (TDE mediamanager)
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 14 Sep 07:21:53 -0400
BorgLabs - Kate Draven via tde-users scripsit:
On Sunday 13 September 2020, Michael via tde-users
wrote:
What is that "lib64ice6" ? I don't see it on devuan/beowulf.
For your entertainment: https://linuxreviews.org/Systemd-homed - just imagine that thing
enabled on your systems ...
Nik
On Sunday 13 September 2020 12:58:14 pm William
Morder via tde-users wrote:
I also get the arts crash as root.
No more info on that.
The TDE mediamanager thing happened to me when I had
lib64ice6-1.0.10-1pclos2019.x86_64 installed. I downgraded to
lib64ice6-1.0.9-2pclos2016.x86_64 and it stopped mostly. On Sunday 13 September 2020 07:55:00 Michael via
tde-users wrote:
I needed to reboot and now auto-mount and media:/ work correctly again for
normal user.
root - Konqueror, throws errors:
media:/
The TDE mediamanager is not running.
During the previous startup, KNotify crashed while instantiating KNotify.
Do you want to try again or disable aRts sound output?
If you choose to disable aRts output now, you can re-enable it later or
select an alternate sound player in the System Notifications control panel.
_______________________________________________ On Tuesday 08 September 2020 09:18:30 am Michael
via tde-users wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 September 2020 01:04:43 am William Morder via tde-users
wrote:
> > On Monday 07 September 2020 22:53:46
deloptes via tde-users wrote:
> > > William Morder via tde-users wrote:
> > > > When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external,
> > > > mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in
> > > > the address bar:
> > > >
> > > > media:/
> > > >
> > > > This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well
> > > > as allowing access to various tools and settings for working
> > > > with those disks and partitions. I don't use it often
> > > > (relatively speaking), but now I find that I cannot use it at
> > > > all when running Konqueror as root.
> > >
> > > Isn't it using dbus and dbus is not running for root?
> >
> > I don't know. It used to work for me before, in Jessie, and
> > especially when running Kubuntu.
>
> I get that message in both root and user level Konqueror.
>
> But! I know media:/ works just after sticking in a thumb drive as it
> does it's auto-mount thing and then a Konqueror pop-up with
> media:/{thumb-drive} in the Location bar.
>
> my 2 cents,
> Michael
My 2 cents is no longer valid. The auto-mount thing no longer
auto-mounts.
- This system* was built ~7/25, auto-mount worked correctly then.
- AFAIK auto-mount worked correctly around 8/15.
- Last rebooted 8/26.
- As of today, 9/13, sticking in a USB drive does not auto-mount.
- Manually mounting works.
Anyone know what changed in the last month or so?
Best,
Michael
And here was I thinking that it was all in my head. Besides these
problems, I have other weird developments; like, for example, my
customized mount points no longer being recognized.
Kate
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New subject: Auto-mount no longer auto-mounts (TDE mediamanager)
On Monday 14 September 2020 04:31:41 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
I also get the arts crash as root. No more info on that.
The TDE mediamanager thing happened to me when I had
lib64ice6-1.0.10-1pclos2019.x86_64 installed. I downgraded to
lib64ice6-1.0.9-2pclos2016.x86_64 and it stopped mostly.
What is that "lib64ice6" ? I don't see it on devuan/beowulf.
For your entertainment: https://linuxreviews.org/Systemd-homed - just
imagine that thing enabled on your systems ...
Nik
> Kate
>
All this is very interesting, but I wonder what is causing it. Another thing
that happens in my system recently (in the past few weeks): when I plug in a
flash drive, suddenly a little bouncing icon for VLC starts up, meaning that
something has awakened and is loading.
Problem is, VLC isn't installed on my system. I do install it now and again,
because it's the only way that I can watch DVDs; other players just don't cut
it. (For other videos, I tend to use smplayer.) But I have never installed
VLC in this new system, devuan beowulf. When I look at what's running in top,
nothing obvious shows up.
I've been transferring music files to micro SD cards, to put in smartphones
for myself and a friend; and suddenly Konqueror has started created its own
custom mount points, ignores fstab, ignores my automount scripts, basically
is putting out something that looks like original defaults for those devices.
(Before that, I couldn't get some of these gadgets to mount at all.)
So here is a sample of the "mount points"* that have been bestowed upon me,
against my will, by some higher, non-human intelligence:
/media/Elements_25A1
/media/External_HDD____
/media/Mass_Storage_Device
/media/My_Book_________
/media/<pete>
/media/<user>
/media/USB_Storage
* Note that names in brackets (< >) have been changed to protect the innocent;
they are not my real mount points.
I always create my own unique names for mount points; names like Pete and Fred
(though I am more inventive still ...) are easier to remember than keeping
straight which drive is Mass_Storage_Device and which is USB_Storage, or
Elements_25A1 or My_Book_________. (Incidentally, WTF with the weird
lines???)
Another thing is, dbus seems to be acting weird, and I don't know enough about
it to attempt corrections. I already have rather a lot on my plate at the
moment.
These developments are all new, since my installation of beowulf/buster; I
never had anything like this is jessie or before, never even with the old
KDE3. It reminds me of those *other* DEs or OSs that I try so hard to avoid.
Somebody please make sense of these developing disasters.
Bill
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 14 Sep 07:21:53 -0400
BorgLabs - Kate Draven via tde-users scripsit:
> On Sunday 13 September 2020, Michael via tde-users wrote:
> > On Sunday 13 September 2020 12:58:14 pm William Morder via tde-users
wrote:
> > > On Sunday 13 September 2020 07:55:00
Michael via tde-users wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 08 September 2020 09:18:30 am Michael via tde-users
wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday 08 September 2020
01:04:43 am William Morder via
> > > > > tde-users
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday 07 September 2020 22:53:46 deloptes via tde-users
wrote:
> > >
> William Morder via tde-users wrote:
> > > > > When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external,
> > > > > mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to
> > > > > enter, in the address bar:
> > > > >
> > > > > media:/
> > > > >
> > > > > This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as
> > > > > well as allowing access to various tools and settings for
> > > > > working with those disks and partitions. I don't use it
> > > > > often (relatively speaking), but now I find that I cannot
> > > > > use it at all when running Konqueror as root.
> > > >
> > > > Isn't it using dbus and dbus is not running for root?
> > >
> > > I don't know. It used to work for me before, in Jessie, and
> > > especially when running Kubuntu.
> >
> > I get that message in both root and user level Konqueror.
> >
> > But! I know media:/ works just after sticking in a thumb drive
> > as it does it's auto-mount thing and then a Konqueror pop-up with
> > media:/{thumb-drive} in the Location bar.
> >
> > my 2 cents,
> > Michael
>
> My 2 cents is no longer valid. The auto-mount thing no longer
> auto-mounts.
>
> - This system* was built ~7/25, auto-mount worked correctly then.
> - AFAIK auto-mount worked correctly around 8/15.
> - Last rebooted 8/26.
> - As of today, 9/13, sticking in a USB drive does not auto-mount.
> - Manually mounting works.
>
> Anyone know what changed in the last month or so?
>
> Best,
> Michael
And here was I thinking that it was all in my head. Besides these
problems, I have other weird developments; like, for example, my
customized mount points no longer being recognized.
I needed to reboot and now auto-mount and media:/ work correctly again
for normal user.
root - Konqueror, throws errors:
media:/
The TDE mediamanager is not running.
During the previous startup, KNotify crashed while instantiating
KNotify. Do you want to try again or disable aRts sound output?
If you choose to disable aRts output now, you can re-enable it later or
select an alternate sound player in the System Notifications control
panel.
_______________________________________________
8 Sep
8 Sep
3:11 p.m.
On Tuesday 08 September 2020, William Morder via tde-users wrote:
So this is a brand-new thread, because I want to set a
good example for
others. (That's me, a role model to the youth ...)
I encountered a problem in the newest version of Konqueror that did not
seem to exist in the older versions, so far as I know.
When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external,
mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in the address
bar:
media:/
This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well as allowing
access to various tools and settings for working with those disks and
partitions. I don't use it often (relatively speaking), but now I find that
I cannot use it at all when running Konqueror as root.
See attachments for screenshots. (Note that my weird colors in root are
intentional; I override some settings to make it easier on my old eyes.) I
already tested this on a fresh installation, before applying any customized
settings.
When it's not there, I find that I need to use it much more than I
remember.
I am sure that there are other ways to obtain the same information, other
ways to accomplish the same things -- and I would be glad to hear them --
but for now, however, I really want to retrieve these tools. I have
installed some new hard drives, and as usual, they need some help in
finding their proper place in my system.
Thanks for any help or suggestions!
Bill
jabber/xmpp
dr_mojo_contendo(a)hot-chilli.net
Hi Bill
See if you have the following installed.
trinity-tdebase-tdeio-plugins
check for all "tdeio" stuff.
I've also noticed trinity-tdeio-umountwrapper always gives me problems, so I
remover it. Just in case you get some odd things trying to umount stuff.
Kate
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9 Sep
9 Sep
12:43 a.m.
See if you have the following installed.
trinity-tdebase-tdeio-plugins
check for all "tdeio" stuff.
I've also noticed trinity-tdeio-umountwrapper always gives me problems, so I
remover it. Just in case you get some odd things trying to umount stuff.
Hi Kate,
what problem do you have with trinity-tdeio-umountwrapper? Just wondering.
Cheers
Michele
4:58 a.m.
Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
what problem do you have with
trinity-tdeio-umountwrapper? Just wondering.
+1
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