23 Apr
2015
23 Apr
'15
2:01 p.m.
Could somebody please fix the https certificate? Firefox does not load
https://trinitydesktop.org because it expired :-(
Nik
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23 Apr
23 Apr
3:31 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Site certificate expired
--- Original Message ---
From: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office(a)klepp.biz>
To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Subject: [trinity-users] Site certificate expired
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015
Could somebody please fix the https certificate? Firefox does not load
https://trinitydesktop.org because it expired :-(
Nik
--
FF will ask if you want to make an exception, select 'yes' and you can
access the page. You can make the exception temporary or permanent.
Tini
4:42 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Site certificate expired
Am Donnerstag, 23. April 2015 schrieb Tini:
Sorry to say, FF it does not alow to add an exception for expired certificates. But
that's not the point: I wanted to point out that's it's bad PR for the project
website.
nik
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From: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office(a)klepp.biz>
To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Subject: [trinity-users] Site certificate expired
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015
Could somebody please fix the https certificate? Firefox does not load
https://trinitydesktop.org because it expired :-(
Nik
FF will ask if you want to make an exception, select 'yes' and you can
access the page. You can make the exception temporary or permanent.
Tini 
24 Apr
24 Apr
12:46 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Site certificate expired
Sorry to say but it does, I just did it.
On 24 April 2015 at 02:42, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp <office(a)klepp.biz> wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 23. April 2015 schrieb Tini:
Sorry to say, FF it does not alow to add an exception for expired
certificates. But that's not the point: I wanted to point out that's it's
bad PR for the project website.
nik
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From: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office(a)klepp.biz>
To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Subject: [trinity-users] Site certificate expired
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015
Could somebody please fix the https certificate? Firefox does not load
https://trinitydesktop.org because it expired :-(
Nik
FF will ask if you want to make an exception, select 'yes' and you can
access the page. You can make the exception temporary or permanent.
Tini 
12:59 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Site certificate expired
On Thu April 23 2015 17:46:53 Michael . wrote:
Sorry to say but it does, I just did it.
Maybe it depends on the version of FF. My FF curiously
allows me to accept mismatch certs but not expired certs.
In any event the real problem is that an expired cert
gives the false impression that TDE is dead.
--Mike
1:18 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Site certificate expired
I agree, the certificate needs renewing asap. People just coming across TDE
right now might think because the website isn't being maintained (or at
least appears to me unmaintained) that TDE is also not being maintained.
On 24 April 2015 at 10:59, Mike Bird <mgb-trinity(a)yosemite.net> wrote:
On Thu April 23 2015 17:46:53 Michael . wrote:
Sorry to say but it does, I just did it.
Maybe it depends on the version of FF. My FF curiously
allows me to accept mismatch certs but not expired certs.
In any event the real problem is that an expired cert
gives the false impression that TDE is dead.
--Mike
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Sorry to say but it does, I just did it.
sorry
to say but you have an old outdated version of firefox that is
still allowing you to do that.
as you can see on my screenshot : http://xena.ww7.be/fftrinity.png
the only option with most recent firefox is "get me out of here"
see also https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=435013
with every new version firefox is getting more nazi about certificates
On 24 April 2015 at 02:42, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
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Am Donnerstag, 23. April 2015 schrieb Tini:
Sorry to say, FF it does not alow to add an exception for expired
certificates. But that's not the point: I wanted to point out that's it's
bad PR for the project website.
nik
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From: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office(a)klepp.biz>
To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Subject: [trinity-users] Site certificate expired
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015
Could somebody please fix the https certificate? Firefox does not load
https://trinitydesktop.org because it expired :-(
Nik
FF will ask if you want to make an exception, select 'yes' and you can
access the page. You can make the exception temporary or permanent.
Tini
5:41 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Site certificate expired
Iceweasel 35, it may be (slightly) outdated but it still works.
The use of the word Nazi is misplaced, and possibly offensive to some people
I don't see Mozilla sending over 6 million people to any death camps, do
you?
On 24 April 2015 at 11:56, Neo Futur <neofutur(a)ww7.be> wrote:
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Sorry to say
but it does, I just did it.
sorry to say but you have an old outdated version of
firefox that is
still allowing you to do that.
as you can see on my screenshot : http://xena.ww7.be/fftrinity.png
the only option with most recent firefox is "get me out of here"
see also https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=435013
with every new version firefox is getting more nazi about certificates
On 24 April 2015 at 02:42, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
<office(a)klepp.biz> wrote:
>
> Am Donnerstag, 23. April 2015 schrieb Tini:
> >> --- Original Message ---
> >> From: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office(a)klepp.biz>
> >> To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
> >> Subject: [trinity-users] Site certificate expired
> >> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015
> >>
> >> Could somebody please fix the https certificate? Firefox does not
load
> >> https://trinitydesktop.org because
it expired :-(
> >>
> >> Nik
> >>
> >
> >
> >FF will ask if you want to make an exception, select 'yes' and you can
> >access the page. You can make the exception temporary or permanent.
> >
> >Tini
>
> Sorry to say, FF it does not alow to add an exception for expired
> certificates. But that's not the point: I wanted to point out that's
it's
> bad PR for the project website.
>
> nik
>
>
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6:05 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Site certificate expired
The use of the word Nazi is misplaced, and possibly
offensive to some people
I don't see Mozilla sending over 6 million people to any death camps, do
you?
Sorry , I dont know how many million people still use frefox and are
now unable to access thousands of werbsites and network tools and
equipments
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"Computers are like air conditionners. They work better when you close
windows."
"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something in your
life."
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you,
then you win"
6:23 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Site certificate expired
I find your post offensive so I will ignore you from now on.
On 24 April 2015 at 16:05, Neo Futur <neofutur(a)ww7.be> wrote:
The use of the
word Nazi is misplaced, and possibly offensive to some
people
I don't see Mozilla sending over 6 million
people to any death camps, do
you?
Sorry , I dont know how many million people still use frefox and are
now unable to access thousands of werbsites and network tools and
equipments
--
Cordialement
-----------------------------------
William Waisse, PGP 0x 690B4E07
http://waisse.org | http://neoskills.com | http://ww7.pe |
https://careers.stackoverflow.com/neofutur
"Computers are like air conditionners. They work better when you close
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"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something in your
life."
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you,
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8:32 a.m.
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sorry I should probably have said fascist, not nazi
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 1:23 AM, Michael . <keltoiboy(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I find your post offensive so I will ignore you from
now on.
On 24 April 2015 at 16:05, Neo Futur <neofutur(a)ww7.be> wrote:
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https://careers.stackoverflow.com/neofutur
"Computers are like air conditionners. They work better when you close
windows."
"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something in your
life."
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you,
then you win"
The use of the word Nazi is misplaced, and
possibly offensive to some
people
I don't see Mozilla sending over 6 million people to any death camps, do
you?
Sorry , I dont know how many million people still use frefox and are
now unable to access thousands of werbsites and network tools and
equipments
--
Cordialement
-----------------------------------
William Waisse, PGP 0x 690B4E07
http://waisse.org | http://neoskills.com | http://ww7.pe |
https://careers.stackoverflow.com/neofutur
"Computers are like air conditionners. They work better when you close
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"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something in your
life."
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you,
then you win"
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8:48 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Site certificate expired
Definietly dictators' style of ruling.
In Polish Internet there was a news about Mozilla's plans to abandon
HTTP totally and use HTTPS. Mozilla's "plans" usually takes few years to
be implemented, but it looks rather disturbing.
There are at least hundreds of small pages located who-knows-where,
in free hosting servers with uptime outside any standards, with so
"dangerous" technologies like pure HTML made in Notepad. And these sites
are made as a hobby by electornic engineers, ham radio operators,
computer maniacs to share knowledge non-commercially. By introducing
compulsory paid certificates and hostings it looks like they want to
transform Internet into paid medium like a television, where you have
to buy a emission time. After preventing MS from doing something
similar about 2 decades ago, for me it looks like a dictatorship.
MCbx
Neo Futur <neofutur(a)ww7.be> napisał(a):
sorry I should probably have said fascist, not nazi
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 1:23 AM, Michael . <keltoiboy(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
I find your post offensive so I will ignore you
from now on.
On 24 April 2015 at 16:05, Neo Futur <neofutur(a)ww7.be> wrote:
The use of the word Nazi is misplaced, and
possibly offensive to
some people
I don't see Mozilla sending over 6 million people to any death
camps, do you?
Sorry , I dont know how many million people still use frefox and
are now unable to access thousands of werbsites and network tools
and equipments
--
Cordialement
-----------------------------------
William Waisse, PGP 0x 690B4E07
http://waisse.org | http://neoskills.com | http://ww7.pe |
https://careers.stackoverflow.com/neofutur
"Computers are like air conditionners. They work better when you
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9:12 a.m.
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On Friday 24 April 2015 10:48:55 iadest(a)o2.pl wrote:
Definietly dictators' style of ruling.
In Polish Internet there was a news about Mozilla's plans to abandon
HTTP totally and use HTTPS. Mozilla's "plans" usually takes few years to
be implemented, but it looks rather disturbing.
There are at least hundreds of small pages located who-knows-where,
in free hosting servers with uptime outside any standards, with so
"dangerous" technologies like pure HTML made in Notepad. And these sites
are made as a hobby by electornic engineers, ham radio operators,
computer maniacs to share knowledge non-commercially. By introducing
compulsory paid certificates and hostings it looks like they want to
transform Internet into paid medium like a television, where you have
to buy a emission time. After preventing MS from doing something
similar about 2 decades ago, for me it looks like a dictatorship.
MCbx
Soon, mi 2015,
Linux Foundation Collaborative Projects,
and Internet Security Research Group (ISRG), with Mozilla,
will distribute free certificates (no charge) :
Infos :
https://letsencrypt.org/
https://letsencrypt.org/about/
André
2:23 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Site certificate expired
On Fri April 24 2015 02:12:48 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
Linux Foundation Collaborative Projects,
and Internet Security Research Group (ISRG), with Mozilla,
will distribute free certificates (no charge) :
There are millions of devices in use which can only accept
http, do not need https, and cannot be given a cert.
Mozilla's ridiculous grandstanding is forcing people to less
free browsers which are of course less secure. One can only
speculate as to who is really driving this.
Meanwhile I'm hoping Tim is safe and well.
--Mike
4:37 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Site certificate expired
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On Fri April 24 2015 02:12:48
andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
Yes, I'm alive. I've been out with the flu for over the past week and as
a result have been digging through a mountain of work upon my return. I
will try to get to the certificate issue later this weekend.
Tim
Linux Foundation Collaborative Projects,
and Internet Security Research Group (ISRG), with Mozilla,
will distribute free certificates (no charge) :
There are millions of devices in use which can only accept
http, do not need https, and cannot be given a cert.
Mozilla's ridiculous grandstanding is forcing people to less
free browsers which are of course less secure. One can only
speculate as to who is really driving this.
Meanwhile I'm hoping Tim is safe and well.
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6:19 p.m.
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--- Original Message ---
From: Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net>
To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Site certificate expired
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015
Yes, I'm alive. I've been out with the flu for over the past week and as
a result have been digging through a mountain of work upon my return.
I will try to get to the certificate issue later this weekend.
Tim
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Glad it's nothing serious - seems like everybody's got it.
You ought to hear my next door neighbor...
27 Apr
27 Apr
8:44 a.m.
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Hash: SHA224
--- Original Message ---
From: Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net>
To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Site certificate expired
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015
Yes, I'm alive. I've been out with the flu for over the past week and as
a result have been digging through a mountain of work upon my return.
I will try to get to the certificate issue later this weekend.
Tim
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Glad it's nothing serious - seems like everybody's got it.
You ought to hear my next door neighbor...
Just wanted to let you all know that the site certificate is fixed. It
took longer than expected due to 1.) StartCom being offline when I went to
generate the certificate and 2.) StartCom taking 12 hours to propagate the
certificate to the OCSP network.
Please let me know if you experience any further issues.
Thanks!
Tim
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24 Apr
24 Apr
1:11 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Site certificate expired
On Friday 24 April 2015 04:48:55 iadest(a)o2.pl wrote:
Definietly dictators' style of ruling.
In Polish Internet there was a news about Mozilla's plans to abandon
HTTP totally and use HTTPS. Mozilla's "plans" usually takes few years
to be implemented, but it looks rather disturbing.
There are at least hundreds of small pages located who-knows-where,
in free hosting servers with uptime outside any standards, with so
"dangerous" technologies like pure HTML made in Notepad. And these
sites are made as a hobby by electornic engineers, ham radio
operators, computer maniacs to share knowledge non-commercially. By
introducing compulsory paid certificates and hostings it looks like
they want to transform Internet into paid medium like a television,
where you have to buy a emission time. After preventing MS from doing
something similar about 2 decades ago, for me it looks like a
dictatorship. MCbx
I did just get in, but it must have taken more than a dozen clicks to
accept, then get, the expired certificate and ok its use. Iceweasel
37.02 here.
I can certainly see why, with all the blather about it, most would back
out, and trinity's plans to take over the world would fail miserably.
How much does a new cert cost?
where do you have to buy it from?
how long are they good for?
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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23 Apr
23 Apr
5:36 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Site certificate expired
On Thursday 23 April 2015 16:01:14 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Could somebody please fix the https certificate?
Firefox does not load
https://trinitydesktop.org because it expired :-(
Nik
Yes Nik, it's a inconvenience...
For information :
StartSSL certificate (free, no charge)
https://www.startssl.com/?lang=en
André
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