1 Jul
2022
1 Jul
'22
7:12 p.m.
Confused I am. Some of that is probably of my own making.
I know I have a mis-spelled word in "a" spellchecker.
And, it appears I have both 'standard' spell checkers in play:
both `ispell` and `aspell`.
`kwrite` seems to be using ispell
`nano` seems to be using aspell
Well, I've noticed that the spell checker in kwrite is happy
with the spelling "everyting".
nano is unhappy with the spelling "everyting", as it should be.
The only user spellchecker files I can find in $HOME/ are:
.aspell.en.pws
.aspell.en.prepl
There are no .ispell* files in $HOME/
There's no "everyting" in .aspell.en.pws - as confirmed by nano.
I can find no other user file in $HOME/ that seems to be related to
any spellchecker. But I know I've added 'words' in kwrite --
especially often-used acronyms,
Two questions:
Where is the user file for ispell's user added words?
Can someone point me to a decent HOW-TO to set my system (Ubuntu) to use
just _one_ of the spell checkers? Maybe I could clear up my multiple
spell checker confusion.
Well, I guess I have a third query:
Could someone that uses ispell confirm whether or not "everyting" is
in ispell's global dictionary?
Thanks,
Jonesy
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1 Jul
1 Jul
7:56 p.m.
Hi!
Anno domini 13:12:13 Fri, 1 Jul 2022 -0600 (MDT)
Marvin Jones via tde-users scripsit:
Confused I am. Some of that is probably of my own
making.
I know I have a mis-spelled word in "a" spellchecker.
And, it appears I have both 'standard' spell checkers in play:
both `ispell` and `aspell`.
`kwrite` seems to be using ispell
`nano` seems to be using aspell
Well, I've noticed that the spell checker in kwrite is happy
with the spelling "everyting".
nano is unhappy with the spelling "everyting", as it should be.
The only user spellchecker files I can find in $HOME/ are:
.aspell.en.pws
.aspell.en.prepl
There are no .ispell* files in $HOME/
There's no "everyting" in .aspell.en.pws - as confirmed by nano.
I can find no other user file in $HOME/ that seems to be related to
any spellchecker. But I know I've added 'words' in kwrite --
especially often-used acronyms,
Two questions:
Where is the user file for ispell's user added words?
Can someone point me to a decent HOW-TO to set my system (Ubuntu) to use
just _one_ of the spell checkers? Maybe I could clear up my multiple
spell checker confusion.
Well, I guess I have a third query:
Could someone that uses ispell confirm whether or not "everyting" is
in ispell's global dictionary?
Thanks,
Jonesy
Same here, but I have only aspell / aspell-de / aspell-en installed. So kwrite uses aspell
on my system and the mispelling is the same.
Nik
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8 p.m.
On Friday 01 July 2022 21.12:13 Marvin Jones via tde-users wrote:
Well, I guess I have a third query:
Could someone that uses ispell confirm whether or not "everyting" is
in ispell's global dictionary?
Thanks,
Jonesy
Hello,
Iz's the first time I use spellcheck in kwrite. I types a sentence with mixed
english (including everyting) and french words and checked - the french words
were "corrected" but "everyting" was accepted.
Thierry
8:14 p.m.
On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Friday 01 July 2022 21.12:13 Marvin Jones via
tde-users wrote:
Thanks! So the "everyting" spelling came with the ispell package!
Curious.
Now that I look through my .aspell.en.pws file, it would appear the
spell checker in kwrite is adding "new" words into $HOME/.aspell.en.pws .
I see words therein using diacritical characters, and it's highly
unlikely that would occur from any use I made of nano.
So, my confusion is somewhat abated.
Jonesy
Well, I guess I have a third query:
Could someone that uses ispell confirm whether or not "everyting" is
in ispell's global dictionary?
Iz's the first time I use spellcheck in kwrite. I types a sentence with mixed
english (including everyting) and french words and checked - the french words
were "corrected" but "everyting" was accepted.
Thierry 
2 Jul
2 Jul
1:18 a.m.
On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Michael wrote:
On Friday 01 July 2022 02:12:13 pm Marvin Jones via
tde-users wrote:
Well, maybe. But my (sketchy) memory seems to recall that one or
both of ispell and aspell use hashing in their spelling dictionaries.
Maybe I'll fire off that command as I go to bed tonight. :-)
Thanks,
Jonesy
with the spelling "everyting".
Where is the user file for ispell's user added words?
Brute force:
grep -irl "everyting" /
1:51 a.m.
On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Michael wrote:
On Friday 01 July 2022 02:12:13 pm Marvin Jones via
tde-users wrote:
heh... I guess "everyting" is an acceptable spelling in linux:
$ grep -ir "everyting" /usr/share/
/usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-top/framebuffer:
# The options part of the kernel "video=" argument (i.e. everyting
/usr/share/tesseract-ocr/tessdata/eng.cube.word-freq:
everyting 63419
/usr/share/doc/initramfs-tools-core/examples/framebuffer:
# The options part of the kernel "video=" argument (i.e. everyting
/usr/share/doc/liblqr-1-0-dev/html/api-manual.html:
everyting OK
/usr/share/doc/liblqr-1-0-dev/html/ref-lqr-ret-val.html:
everyting OK
/usr/share/doc/xdg-user-dirs/copyright:
For everyting not listed below:
(blank lines added and line "folding" added for ease of reading)
So, I guess "everyting OK"! :-)
Jonesy
with the spelling "everyting".
Where is the user file for ispell's user added words?
Brute force:
grep -irl "everyting" / 
1:31 a.m.
On Fri, Jul 01, 2022 at 01:12:13PM -0600, Marvin Jones via tde-users wrote:
Confused I am. Some of that is probably of my own
making.
I know I have a mis-spelled word in "a" spellchecker.
[...]
Well, I've noticed that the spell checker in
kwrite is happy
with the spelling "everyting".
nano is unhappy with the spelling "everyting", as it should be.
Some spell checker algorithms are probabilistic and can give false
positives. That is, they can wrongly conclude that a word is in the
dictionary (i.e. correctly spelled) even when it isn't.
I'm thinking specifically of Bloom filters:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom_filter
It is possible that *if* kwrite uses a Bloom filter, or another
probabilistic algorithm, that "everyting" is a false positive and there
is nothing you can do about it.
The only user spellchecker files I can find in $HOME/
are:
.aspell.en.pws
.aspell.en.prepl
There are no .ispell* files in $HOME/
There's no "everyting" in .aspell.en.pws - as confirmed by nano.
You should also check the ispell and aspell global dictionary files,
just in case. No harm in also checking your word list file, often found
at /usr/share/dict/words.
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