16 Mar
2023
16 Mar
'23
11:35 p.m.
greets, everyone . . .
as a test run and experiment -- and to upgrade it -- i did a clean, fresh
install of debian bookworm -- i keep wanting to say butterbean -- on my
old but good thinkpad x200. much to my surprise, it was the quickest and
easiest linux installation i've ever done. i realize that configuration is
a whole nother story, but i'm impressed so far. there being no TDE choise,
i installed gnome, because it brings along a lot of stuff that
applications will need anyway.
time now to edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and i'd kind of like to get it
right. there's no listing on the TDE page for bookworm; the latest is
bullseye. bookworm is, i think, what used to be "testing." i presume that
using bullseye would be entirely compatable, but before i break something
i want to double-check. is it?
also, i wonder what it would take to get TDE listed among the debian
installation choices. i see that plasma is, so i don't think it's that
ancient qt fuss -- plus, the install went out and got "non-free" drivers
for the video and the wifi card. it would be a good thing, i think if it
were.
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17 Mar
17 Mar
12:22 a.m.
On 2023/03/17 08:35 AM, dep via tde-users wrote:
greets, everyone . . .
as a test run and experiment -- and to upgrade it -- i did a clean, fresh
install of debian bookworm -- i keep wanting to say butterbean -- on my
old but good thinkpad x200. much to my surprise, it was the quickest and
easiest linux installation i've ever done. i realize that configuration is
a whole nother story, but i'm impressed so far. there being no TDE choise,
i installed gnome, because it brings along a lot of stuff that
applications will need anyway.
time now to edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and i'd kind of like to get it
right. there's no listing on the TDE page for bookworm; the latest is
bullseye. bookworm is, i think, what used to be "testing." i presume that
using bullseye would be entirely compatable, but before i break something
i want to double-check. is it?
also, i wonder what it would take to get TDE listed among the debian
installation choices. i see that plasma is, so i don't think it's that
ancient qt fuss -- plus, the install went out and got "non-free" drivers
for the video and the wifi card. it would be a good thing, i think if it
were.
--
dep
For bookworm, you need to use PSB or PTB (well, at present time they are the same till
R14.1.0 is released -- soon).
See instructions and links here:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Debian_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst…
Cheers
Michele
1:11 a.m.
said Michele Calgaro via tde-users:
| For bookworm, you need to use PSB or PTB (well, at present time they are
| the same till R14.1.0 is released -- soon). See instructions and links
| here:
| https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Debian_Trinity_Repository_Installation_I
|nstructions
kinda weird. first, the instructions on consecutive lines demand apt,
apt-get, and aptitude. second, apt reads the stable directory as a cd-rom
and doesn't like it a bit. it gets package names just fine, but for every
one asks me to insert the CD. this machine doesn't even have a CD drive.
third, i *hate" gnome. (i think that the CD business may be a debian, not
trinity issue.)
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1:38 a.m.
On 2023/03/17 10:11 AM, dep via tde-users wrote:
i *hate" gnome. (i think that the CD business may
be a debian, not
trinity issue.)
You could install Debian bookworm without any DE first. Then add TDE sources in apt and
install only TDE.
That is usually what I do (bookworm + PTB): I like debian and TDE testing because I can
have lots of little daily
updates rather than a major update in one go. But that is personal preference and depends
on individual needs/use cases.
Comment out the lines about the CD rom sources and add this line for TDE:
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-testing bookworm deps main
Cheers
Michele
1:52 a.m.
On Thursday 16 March 2023 06:35:14 pm dep via tde-users wrote:
greets, everyone . . .
as a test run and experiment -- and to upgrade it -- i did a clean, fresh
install of debian bookworm -- i keep wanting to say butterbean -- on my
old but good thinkpad x200. much to my surprise, it was the quickest and
easiest linux installation i've ever done. i realize that configuration is
a whole nother story, but i'm impressed so far. there being no TDE choise,
i installed gnome
This is really [offtopic], but why did you install any desktop when you
installed debian?
Installing debian base (internet with no desktop) boots you into a command
line. At that point all you need to do is login as root, and follow the
instauction in the link Michele gave.
Easy-peasy and you don't have Gnome's cruft (or any other DE's) to screw up
your system.
Best,
Michael
2:08 a.m.
On 2023/03/17 10:52 AM, Michael via tde-users wrote:
This is really [offtopic], but why did you install any
desktop when you
installed debian?
Installing debian base (internet with no desktop) boots you into a command
line. At that point all you need to do is login as root, and follow the
instauction in the link Michele gave.
Easy-peasy and you don't have Gnome's cruft (or any other DE's) to screw up
your system.
+1000!!!!!!
2:47 a.m.
Thanks, everybody . . .
I'm now looking at a TDE desktop atop Debian on my old Thinkpad, which I do
not believe had been booted this decade. Pretty cool (this T-Pad was a
special order out of China from Lenovo, complete with cellular that I've
never used and the docking station -- I was the only person in my office
who used Linux, so I'd bring in my computer and at day's end take it home,
a decade ago).
The Debian install had it's usual quiddities -- had to install sudo
manually, likewise the essential mc. There will be more of that. Also, and
this was truly strange, I couldn't su to install the trinity keyring. Had
to "su -" for some reason that is probably a good idea under some
circumstance I've never encountered.
Over the next few days I'll bring stuff over from the desktop machine,
things that are to my taste, install the ProtonVPN and ProtonMail Bridge
stuff and other essentials, and in due course, with luck, and probably
with more than one question here I'll be ready to swallow hard and do much
the same -- though keeping ~/ and configurations, I hope -- to the desktop
machine and bid a less-than-fond farewell to Ubuntu.
Now I'm gonna go watch some anime. I was hoping the final episode of "Don't
Toy With Me, Miss Nagatoro" would be up, but apparently not. Oh, well.
Good day anyway.
Thanks again.
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11:25 a.m.
On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 02:47:20 +0000
dep via tde-users <users(a)trinitydesktop.org> wrote:
Now I'm gonna go watch some anime. I was hoping
the final episode of "Don't
Toy With Me, Miss Nagatoro" would be up, but apparently not. Oh, well.
Season 2 Episode 12 won't air in Japan until the early hours of Sunday morning in
their timezone, so I wouldn't expect it elsewhere until tomorrow afternoon at the
earliest. www.livechart.me is useful for keeping track, if you haven't found it yet.
E. Liddell
4:52 p.m.
said E. Liddell via tde-users:
| Season 2 Episode 12 won't air in Japan until the early hours of Sunday
| morning in their timezone, so I wouldn't expect it elsewhere until
| tomorrow afternoon at the earliest. www.livechart.me is useful for
| keeping track, if you haven't found it yet.
Yeah, thanks, saw that on MAL as well. I usually wait and binge, but I
checked to see if it suffered the usual season 2 qualty decline (The Devil
is a Part-Timer, FLCL) and got hooked. So I watched the first two eps
of "The Ice Guy . . ." and very much didn't get hooked.
Now back to our regularly scheduled on-topic discussions.<g>
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2:08 a.m.
said Michael via tde-users:
| This is really [offtopic], but why did you install any desktop when you
| installed debian?
good point. reason is because in the foggy distant past when you did that
you wouldn't get X(f86, at the time), and in Ubuntu I do not think there
was a choice. So force of habit.
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