Hello everyone,
I have 2 issues with the wallpaper setting behavior of Konqueror and KDesktop respectively and possible improvement ideas which I'd like to discuss.
1. Konqueror set-as-wallpaper actions
Konqueror offers set-as-wallpaper actions in the right-click menu of images under the "Actions" > "Set as Background" submenu. There are 2 actions in the "Set as Background" category: "Centered" and "Tiled".
"Tiled" actually does what its name suggests. However, the "Centered" action does actually lead to "Scaled" in the desktop's wallpaper setting, squishing the image to fit the screen, ignoring the aspect ratio. "Centered" is available in the KDesktop configuration (as in "Configure Desktop..." in the desktop's context menu) but is not correctly triggered by this action.
So I guess this is actually a bug: the "Centered" option of "Set as Background" in Konqueror's actions leads to "Scaled" not "Centered" in KDesktop. Also, one could consider replacing "Centered" in Konqueror's wallpaper actions by "Scale & Crop" entirely (see below).
(By the way, is there a way to modify those actions via config files or are they part of Konqueror's source code?)
2. KDesktop's default wallpaper alignment setting "Scaled" is a poor choice
When changing the wallpaper directly in KDesktops configuration dialog (reached via "Configure Desktop..." in the desktop's context menu), upon selecting a new image, the "Position" setting will revert to "Scaled".
This is not necessarily a bug, as KDesktop might just have "Scaled" hardcoded as its default and always reverts to it. However, I think "Scaled" is a poor choice for a default by modern standards since it ignores the image's aspect ratio and squishes any image that doesn't perfectly match the current display's aspect ratio. In my opinion, "Scale & Crop" is a much more sensible option and is the default behavior of most modern desktop environments nowadays, as it doesn't squish any images.
I think KDesktop should remember the previous "Position" setting when changing the wallpaper file in its dialog and/or the default should be changed to "Scale & Crop", which would fit most situations just fine.
Best regards,
Leskala
On 2022/06/26 02:46 AM, Leskala via tde-users wrote:
Hello everyone,
I have 2 issues with the wallpaper setting behavior of Konqueror and KDesktop respectively and possible improvement ideas which I'd like to discuss.
- Konqueror set-as-wallpaper actions
Konqueror offers set-as-wallpaper actions in the right-click menu of images under the "Actions" > "Set as Background" submenu. There are 2 actions in the "Set as Background" category: "Centered" and "Tiled".
"Tiled" actually does what its name suggests. However, the "Centered" action does actually lead to "Scaled" in the desktop's wallpaper setting, squishing the image to fit the screen, ignoring the aspect ratio. "Centered" is available in the KDesktop configuration (as in "Configure Desktop..." in the desktop's context menu) but is not correctly triggered by this action.
So I guess this is actually a bug: the "Centered" option of "Set as Background" in Konqueror's actions leads to "Scaled" not "Centered" in KDesktop. Also, one could consider replacing "Centered" in Konqueror's wallpaper actions by "Scale & Crop" entirely (see below).
(By the way, is there a way to modify those actions via config files or are they part of Konqueror's source code?)
- KDesktop's default wallpaper alignment setting "Scaled" is a poor choice
When changing the wallpaper directly in KDesktops configuration dialog (reached via "Configure Desktop..." in the desktop's context menu), upon selecting a new image, the "Position" setting will revert to "Scaled".
This is not necessarily a bug, as KDesktop might just have "Scaled" hardcoded as its default and always reverts to it. However, I think "Scaled" is a poor choice for a default by modern standards since it ignores the image's aspect ratio and squishes any image that doesn't perfectly match the current display's aspect ratio. In my opinion, "Scale & Crop" is a much more sensible option and is the default behavior of most modern desktop environments nowadays, as it doesn't squish any images.
I think KDesktop should remember the previous "Position" setting when changing the wallpaper file in its dialog and/or the default should be changed to "Scale & Crop", which would fit most situations just fine.
Best regards,
Leskala
Hi Leskala, thanks for highlighting this. It would be good to create two separate issues on TGW (https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea), so that these ideas don't get lost.
Cheers Michele
Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
On 2022/06/26 02:46 AM, Leskala via tde-users wrote:
Hello everyone,
I have 2 issues with the wallpaper setting behavior of Konqueror and KDesktop respectively and possible improvement ideas which I'd like to discuss.
- Konqueror set-as-wallpaper actions
Konqueror offers set-as-wallpaper actions in the right-click menu of images under the "Actions" > "Set as Background" submenu. There are 2 actions in the "Set as Background" category: "Centered" and "Tiled".
"Tiled" actually does what its name suggests. However, the "Centered" action does actually lead to "Scaled" in the desktop's wallpaper setting, squishing the image to fit the screen, ignoring the aspect ratio. "Centered" is available in the KDesktop configuration (as in "Configure Desktop..." in the desktop's context menu) but is not correctly triggered by this action.
So I guess this is actually a bug: the "Centered" option of "Set as Background" in Konqueror's actions leads to "Scaled" not "Centered" in KDesktop. Also, one could consider replacing "Centered" in Konqueror's wallpaper actions by "Scale & Crop" entirely (see below).
(By the way, is there a way to modify those actions via config files or are they part of Konqueror's source code?)
- KDesktop's default wallpaper alignment setting "Scaled" is a poor
choice
When changing the wallpaper directly in KDesktops configuration dialog (reached via "Configure Desktop..." in the desktop's context menu), upon selecting a new image, the "Position" setting will revert to "Scaled".
This is not necessarily a bug, as KDesktop might just have "Scaled" hardcoded as its default and always reverts to it. However, I think "Scaled" is a poor choice for a default by modern standards since it ignores the image's aspect ratio and squishes any image that doesn't perfectly match the current display's aspect ratio. In my opinion, "Scale & Crop" is a much more sensible option and is the default behavior of most modern desktop environments nowadays, as it doesn't squish any images.
I think KDesktop should remember the previous "Position" setting when changing the wallpaper file in its dialog and/or the default should be changed to "Scale & Crop", which would fit most situations just fine.
Best regards,
Leskala
Hi Leskala, thanks for highlighting this. It would be good to create two separate issues on TGW (https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea), so that these ideas don't get lost.
Cheers Michele
Hi Michele, can you guide me to the correct repositories? I looked for TDE/konqueror and TDE/kdesktop there but those don't seem to exist. Which repository are Konqueror and KDesktop part of respectively?
Best regards, Leskala
Hi Michele, can you guide me to the correct repositories? I looked for TDE/konqueror and TDE/kdesktop there but those don't seem to exist. Which repository are Konqueror and KDesktop part of respectively?
Best regards, Leskala
Hi Leskala, they are both under tdebase.
Additional way to find this: from the Help menu of (for example) Konqueror, use "Report bug". This open a dialog and when you press the "Launch bug report wizard", it should open a browser pointing to the correct repository and ready for a new issue.
Cheers Michele
Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
Hi Michele, can you guide me to the correct repositories? I looked for TDE/konqueror and TDE/kdesktop there but those don't seem to exist. Which repository are Konqueror and KDesktop part of respectively?
Best regards, Leskala
Hi Leskala, they are both under tdebase.
Additional way to find this: from the Help menu of (for example) Konqueror, use "Report bug". This open a dialog and when you press the "Launch bug report wizard", it should open a browser pointing to the correct repository and ready for a new issue.
Cheers Michele
Thank you Michele! I created issues #280 and #281 under tdebase accordingly.
Best regards, Leskala
On 2022/06/27 06:48 AM, Leskala via tde-users wrote:
Thank you Michele! I created issues #280 and #281 under tdebase accordingly.
Best regards, Leskala ________________________
Yes, I noticed them. They are actually quite good improvements for the users, so we should try to find some time to look into them as some point.
Cheers Michele
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