4 Jun
2016
4 Jun
'16
8:09 p.m.
Hi all!
I've switched to TDE not long ago, it works fine, though
I experience some problems.
First of all, layout switching.
I set setxkbmap -option -option grp:ctrl_shift_toggle in the Xkb options
tab, but this feature doesn't seem to work, CTRL+Shift does nothing
with layouts.
Second, is there some option for TDE menu to show submenus in one
column, like MS Windows did for the Start menu? My Settings submenu
fills the entire screen and I don't know what to do.
Third, is it possible to close windows by double-clicking the icon
in the upper left corner? I don't find such an option.
Best wishes, J. Drahun.
4 Jun
4 Jun
8:52 p.m.
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On Saturday 04 June 2016 16:09:13 J. Drahun wrote:
Hi all!
I've switched to TDE not long ago, it works fine, though
I experience some problems.
First, someone smarter than I will want to know which version? One of the
help menu's should tell you.
First of all, layout switching.
I set setxkbmap -option -option grp:ctrl_shift_toggle in the Xkb
options tab, but this feature doesn't seem to work, CTRL+Shift does
nothing with layouts.
Second, is there some option for TDE menu to show submenus in one
column, like MS Windows did for the Start menu? My Settings submenu
fills the entire screen and I don't know what to do.
That sounds as if you have both text and icons selected. I'm running
R14.0.4 and do not now see that, but its possible I have turned that
off.
Third, is it possible to close windows by double-clicking the icon
in the upper left corner? I don't find such an option.
That was never where the close window button has ever been located on my
install, on 2 machines here. The single click to close the window and
any child processes in that window is the x in a small box in the upper
right corner of the windows border. I believe its location might be
configurable, and as its not a problem here, I haven't looked to see if
it could be moved. Or made dbl-click. Personal prefs at work.
Best wishes, J. Drahun.
Possibly not much help, but its a weekend afternoon here, and while I
have work to do, it is raining just enough to make working outside a
chore. So here I am. :)
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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10:57 p.m.
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04.06.2016 23:52, Gene Heskett wrote:
First, someone smarter than I will want to know which
version? One of the
help menu's should tell you.
Thanks for reminding! R14.0.3.
OpenSUSE 13.1 is my distro, if that matters.
That sounds as if you have both text and icons
selected. I'm running
R14.0.4 and do not now see that, but its possible I have turned that
off.
Well, it just has too many menu options, maybe you have not such a menu.
That was never where the close window button has ever
been located on my
install, on 2 machines here. The single click to close the window and
any child processes in that window is the x in a small box in the upper
right corner of the windows border. I believe its location might be
configurable, and as its not a problem here, I haven't looked to see if
it could be moved. Or made dbl-click. Personal prefs at work.
Maybe I said not correctly, but I'm talking about the icon, not the X
button. Where, like, a fox is drawn when you work with Firefox.
Possibly not much help, but its a weekend afternoon
here, and while I
have work to do, it is raining just enough to make working outside a
chore. So here I am. :)
That's great, thanks!
Best wishes, J. Drahun.
5 Jun
5 Jun
12:04 a.m.
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On Saturday 04 June 2016 23:57:26 J. Drahun wrote:
Maybe I said not correctly, but I'm talking about
the icon, not the X
button. Where, like, a fox is drawn when you work with Firefox.
One learns something new every day! I am running 3.5.13.2 on Debian Wheezy
with Firefox 46.0.1. I double clicked on the Firefox icon in the top
left-hand corner to show that it did not close the window - and it did!!!
Though why one would want to double click in the top left hand corner,
instead of single click in the top right, is beyond me. Still, it's nice to
know something new. Thank you J. Drahun. :-)
If you have got too many things in your menu, and you don't want all of them,
remove some.
Lisi
6:09 p.m.
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05.06.2016 03:04, Lisi Reisz wrote:
Though why one would want to double click in the top
left hand corner,
instead of single click in the top right, is beyond me.
This behavior comes from Windows 3.1 or maybe earlier.
Why would one want that? Sometimes I'm lazy to move the cursor to the
top right corner, so I ouble-click top left corner :-)
Still, it's nice to
know something new. Thank you J. Drahun. :-)
You're welcome ;-)
Best wishes, J. Drahun.
12:54 a.m.
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On Saturday 04 June 2016 18:57:26 J. Drahun wrote:
04.06.2016 23:52, Gene Heskett wrote:
That Icon opens a menu on the first click, and the menu has a
close(alt-F4) hotkey. And, I just checked as I keep a copy of kcalc
running for gp uses, and a quick double-click does indeed cause it to
exit.
And you probably should update, r14.0.4 has been out in the wild for 3
weeks to a month. :)
First, someone smarter than I will want to know
which version? One
of the help menu's should tell you.
Thanks for reminding! R14.0.3.
OpenSUSE 13.1 is my distro, if that matters.
That sounds as if you have both text and icons
selected. I'm running
R14.0.4 and do not now see that, but its possible I have turned that
off.
Well, it just has too many menu options, maybe you have not such a
menu.
That was never where the close window button has
ever been located
on my install, on 2 machines here. The single click to close the
window and any child processes in that window is the x in a small
box in the upper right corner of the windows border. I believe its
location might be configurable, and as its not a problem here, I
haven't looked to see if it could be moved. Or made dbl-click.
Personal prefs at work.
Maybe I said not correctly, but I'm talking about the icon, not the X
button. Where, like, a fox is drawn when you work with Firefox.
Possibly not much help, but its a weekend
afternoon here, and while
I have work to do, it is raining just enough to make working outside
a chore. So here I am. :)
That's great, thanks! Best wishes, J. Drahun.
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10:23 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Switching layouts with keys and a couple of other questions
On Sunday 05 June 2016 01:54:40 Gene Heskett wrote:
And you probably should update, r14.0.4 has been out
in the wild for 3
weeks to a month. :)
For OpenSUSE? I noticed that, but wasn't sure - the rpm distros sometimes lag
a bit.
4 Jun
4 Jun
9:52 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Switching layouts with keys and a couple of other questions
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016, J. Drahun wrote:
Third, is it possible to close windows by
double-clicking the icon
in the upper left corner? I don't find such an option.
I haven't seen that since OS/2. And, I grumbled when Warp 4.0
switched it to the upper right title bar: [X].
However, I did adapt - got used to it - and found it comforting
when I migrated to linux 16 years ago.
Regards,
Jonesy
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5 Jun
5 Jun
10:06 a.m.
J. Drahun wrote:
Hi all!
I've switched to TDE not long ago, it works fine, though
I experience some problems.
First of all, layout switching.
I set setxkbmap -option -option grp:ctrl_shift_toggle in the Xkb options
tab, but this feature doesn't seem to work, CTRL+Shift does nothing
with layouts.
keyboard layout must be configured in TDE. By default switching is done via
CTRL+SHIFT+k, however I remapped it to CTRL+SHIFT+right arrow, because "k"
does not work in non latin keyboard.
Second, is there some option for TDE menu to show
submenus in one
column, like MS Windows did for the Start menu? My Settings submenu
fills the entire screen and I don't know what to do.
Perhaps you can provide screenshot - in my setup it shows up in 1 column.
Please also provide version and layout information
Third, is it possible to close windows by
double-clicking the icon
in the upper left corner? I don't find such an option.
From your questions I think you have to configure your window manager
properly or you are missing something. I use "Plastik" and double click on
the left behaves the same as windows -> close. One click -> same as windows
menu with options (foreground, background, desktop etc)
regards
6 p.m.
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05.06.2016 13:06, deloptes wrote:
keyboard layout must be configured in TDE. By default
switching is done via
CTRL+SHIFT+k, however I remapped it to CTRL+SHIFT+right arrow, because "k"
does not work in non latin keyboard.
Sorry, where?
Perhaps you can provide screenshot - in my setup it
shows up in 1 column.
Please also provide version and layout information
I don't know how to do a screenshot in TDE, PrintScreen and paste into
KolourPaint doesn't work.
From your questions I think you have to configure
your window manager
properly or you are missing something. I use "Plastik" and double click on
the left behaves the same as windows -> close. One click -> same as windows
menu with options (foreground, background, desktop etc)
I've found the problem, I was double-clicking too fast.
It's hilarious, but if I double-click pretty slow, a window closes.
I can't explain such behaviour.
Best wishes, J. Drahun.
6:30 p.m.
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Hi,
On Sunday 05 June 2016 19:00:58 J. Drahun wrote:
--
Best Regards:
Baron
05.06.2016 13:06, deloptes wrote:
Use "Screenie" to grab the screen and the mouse click speed can be set
in the control panel.
keyboard layout must be configured in TDE. By
default switching
is done via CTRL+SHIFT+k, however I remapped it to
CTRL+SHIFT+right arrow, because "k" does not work in non latin
keyboard.
Sorry, where?
Perhaps you can provide screenshot - in my setup
it shows up in 1
column. Please also provide version and layout information
I don't know how to do a screenshot in TDE, PrintScreen and paste
into KolourPaint doesn't work. From your
questions I think you have to configure your window
manager properly or you are missing something. I use "Plastik"
and double click on the left behaves the same as windows ->
close. One click -> same as windows menu with options
(foreground, background, desktop etc)
I've found the problem, I was double-clicking too fast.
It's hilarious, but if I double-click pretty slow, a window closes.
I can't explain such behaviour.
Best wishes, J. Drahun. 
6 Jun
6 Jun
9:17 a.m.
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On Sunday 05 June 2016, Baron wrote:
Don't know what "Screenie" is. I use KSnapshot. It starts with
PrintScreen pressed (or by using TDE menu). I can choose to copy full
screen or windows or parts of the screen. I can copy to Clipboard or
save into a file. I can paste e.g. into OpenOffice or directly into a
mail (Kmail here) and am asked for a name after pasting Clipboard
content into the mail. Works very well.
Gerhard
I don't
know how to do a screenshot in TDE, PrintScreen and paste
into KolourPaint doesn't work.
Use "Screenie" to grab the screen and the mouse click speed can be
set in the control panel.
9:22 a.m.
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On Monday 06 June 2016, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
Don't know what "Screenie" is. I use
KSnapshot. It starts with ...
Should have finished reading the list before making
any noise. All was
already answered well.
Sorry
Gerhard
5 Jun
5 Jun
6:48 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Switching layouts with keys and a couple of other questions
On Sunday 05 June 2016 19:00:58 J. Drahun wrote:
I don't know how to do a screenshot in TDE,
PrintScreen and paste into
KolourPaint doesn't work.
I have KSnapshot installed, then I just press the print-screen key. ;-)
Lisi
10:08 p.m.
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Sunday 05 June 2016 19:00:58 J. Drahun wrote:
Same here and I'm just wondering why it is so hard for some people ;)
In fact when I press PrintScreen button KSnapshot starts automatically
The copy-paste is not working always. I think it depends if a program
supports the binary image from the clipboard to be embedded in some way
into the content. KMail asks usually for file name for the attachment.
This news reader is doing nothing. I have to go through "save as" and normal
attach process.
I'm using the news reader part of the kontact. Is it working for you?
thanks and regards
I don't know how to do a screenshot in TDE,
PrintScreen and paste into
KolourPaint doesn't work.
I have KSnapshot installed, then I just press the print-screen key. ;-)
Lisi
11:26 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Re: Switching layouts with keys and a couple of other questions
06.06.2016 01:08, deloptes пишет:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
Thanks a lot.
I have KSnapshot installed, then I just press the
print-screen key. ;-)
Lisi
Same here and I'm just wondering why it is so hard for some people ;) In fact when I press PrintScreen button KSnapshot
starts automatically
Well, in my case it doesn't.
I hope attaching a screenshot won't be a crime here.
Best wishes, J. Drahun.
6 Jun
6 Jun
7:39 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Re: Switching layouts with keys and a couple of other questions
On Monday 06 June 2016 00:26:22 J. Drahun wrote:
06.06.2016 01:08, deloptes пишет:
How did you install TDE? That isn't an ordinary TDE menu. Neither in content
nor in style. Is it an openSUSE KDE menu??
Lisi
Lisi Reisz wrote:
Thanks a lot.
I have KSnapshot installed, then I just press the
print-screen key. ;-)
Lisi
Same here and I'm just wondering why it is so hard for some people ;) In fact when I press PrintScreen button KSnapshot
starts automatically
Well, in my case it doesn't.
I hope attaching a screenshot won't be a crime here.
2:19 p.m.
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06.06.2016 10:39, Lisi Reisz wrote:
How did you install TDE?
I installed TDE the way described in the TDE wiki.
That isn't an ordinary TDE menu. Neither in
content
nor in style. Is it an openSUSE KDE menu??
What's wrong with style? I don't know how TDE menus should look.
Best wishes, J. Drahun.
3:06 p.m.
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On Monday 06 June 2016 15:19:50 J. Drahun wrote:
06.06.2016 10:39, Lisi Reisz wrote:
Not like that! You haven't answered my question. Is it an openSUSE KDE menu?
My menu is heavily recognisable as KDE Debian, updated a lot. And yours
still says that it is KDE (top left).
It has some extraordinary things in - but they may be relatively normal for
openSUSE. (All those configure-this, configure that). I tried to take a
screenshot of mine, but couldn't manage to do so while the menu was open - and
it would not have been much use doing so while it was shut!
Ah! I have found some on line. Here are two that show the menu, one extended
a bit, the other not.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=trinity+desktop+environment+screenshots&a…
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=trinity+desktop+environment+screenshots&a…
Lisi
How did you install TDE?
I installed TDE the way described in the TDE wiki.
That isn't an ordinary TDE menu. Neither in
content
nor in style. Is it an openSUSE KDE menu??
What's wrong with style? I don't know how TDE menus should look. 
7:32 p.m.
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Lisi Reisz wrote:
I tried to take a
screenshot of mine, but couldn't manage to do so while the menu was
open
I could have sworn there was a delay option for region selection. In
the past I must have used the delayed full screen option and then
cropped w/ kolourpaint (e.g. for expanded/multi-window menus). I did
this one with the delayed window-under-cursor option. I didn't know
about using Prt Scr to start ksnapshot, thanks.
9:14 p.m.
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X-Originating-<%= hostname %>-IP: [82.69.30.110]
On Monday 06 June 2016 20:32:56 Dave Lers wrote:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
Great! Thanks. Which distro is that on? I have only seen it for myself on
Debian.
And no mention of KDE - only TDE. So I still have my question.
Lisi
I tried to take a
screenshot of mine, but couldn't manage to do so while the menu was
open
I could have sworn there was a delay option for region selection. In
the past I must have used the delayed full screen option and then
cropped w/ kolourpaint (e.g. for expanded/multi-window menus). I did
this one with the delayed window-under-cursor option. I didn't know
about using Prt Scr to start ksnapshot, thanks.
9:28 p.m.
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On Monday 06 June 2016 22:14:53 Lisi Reisz wrote:
X-Originating-<%= hostname %>-IP:
[82.69.30.110]
On Monday 06 June 2016 20:32:56 Dave Lers wrote:
Having looked back a bit I see that you are running a strongly Debian based
distro since you still use apt-get, at lest some of the time. I could
probably find out which by looking back further!
Lisi
Lisi Reisz wrote:
Great! Thanks. Which distro is that on? I have only seen it for myself
on Debian. I tried to take a
screenshot of mine, but couldn't manage to do so while the menu was
open
I could have sworn there was a delay option for region selection. In
the past I must have used the delayed full screen option and then
cropped w/ kolourpaint (e.g. for expanded/multi-window menus). I did
this one with the delayed window-under-cursor option. I didn't know
about using Prt Scr to start ksnapshot, thanks.
And no mention of KDE - only TDE. So I still have my question.
11:11 p.m.
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Lisi Reisz wrote:
Yup, Raspbian and Armbian - though I'd think that adding TDE to the
CLI/text only version of any distro should look the same... SUSE does
have that option with net and dvd installs, but not with a CD install.
Which distro
is that on? I have only seen it for
myself on Debian.
Having looked back a bit I see that you are running a strongly Debian 
3:45 p.m.
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On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:19:50 +0300
"J. Drahun" <dragun97yu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
06.06.2016 10:39, Lisi Reisz wrote:
The default TDE settings menu has less than a dozen entries. These would
include entries for "Printers (TDEPrint)", "Desktop Settings Wizard
(KPersonalizer)", and "Menu Editor (KMenuEdit)".
It doesn't include entries for virtual machine configuration, a non-TDE terminal
emulator, any kind of software installation, or most of the rest of the ~40 items
in your screenshot. Those were placed either by your distro or by another
desktop environment (for instance, I have a VM with Trinity and LXDE
installed, and "LXAppearance" shows up in the TDE Settings menu there).
E. Liddell
How did you install TDE?
I installed TDE the way described in the TDE wiki.
That isn't an ordinary TDE menu. Neither in
content
nor in style. Is it an openSUSE KDE menu??
What's wrong with style? I don't know how TDE menus should look.
3:53 p.m.
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On Monday 06 June 2016 15:19:50 J. Drahun wrote:
That doesn't answer my question! I hadn't actually noticed so short a reply.
Lisi
How did you
install TDE?
I installed TDE the way described in the TDE wiki.
7:11 p.m.
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X-Originating-<%= hostname %>-IP: [82.69.30.110]
On Monday 06 June 2016 19:40:52 deloptes wrote:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
That still doesn't answer my question. Not "has he got SUSE?" - he has
actually said he has. But is that an actual SUSE KDE menu. It says "KDE"
and he refuses to say how he installed TDE.
Lisi
Is it an openSUSE KDE menu??
Yes he has SUSE because you see YaST there.
7:41 p.m.
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Lisi Reisz wrote:
actually said he has. But is that an actual SUSE KDE
menu. It says
"KDE" and he refuses to say how he installed TDE.
I don't know what SUSE options are available, but I always try to
install the CLI version of a distro and then install TDE so that I can
get a clean, TDE only, menu.
8:06 p.m.
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06.06.2016 22:11, Lisi Reisz wrote:
That still doesn't answer my question. Not
"has he got SUSE?" - he has
actually said he has. But is that an actual SUSE KDE menu. It says "KDE"
and he refuses to say how he installed TDE.
OK, here are the commands.
# zypper remove arts hal kdeaccessibility3 kdeartwork3 kdebase3
kdebindings3 kdeedu3 kdegames3 kdegraphics3 kdelibs3 kdemultimedia3
kdenetwork3 kdepim3 kdesdk3 kdetoys3 kdeutils3 kdewebdev3
# zypper ar -f -n packman
http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_13.1/ packman
# rpm --import
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse13.1/RPM-G…
# zypper ar -t YUM
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse13.1/trini…
trinity
# zypper ar -t YUM
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse13.1/trini…
trinity-noarch
# zypper refresh
# zypper install trinity-desktop
Is this answer good enough?
Best wishes, J. Drahun.
9:24 p.m.
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On Monday 06 June 2016 21:06:42 J. Drahun wrote:
06.06.2016 22:11, Lisi Reisz wrote:
Yes - and it seems to me even more now that I have seen how you installed that
some of your KDE stuff has almost certainly been left behind, which is why
you have such an *extremely* un-TDE menu. It must be a left-over from the
previous incarnation. Though it is weird for anything!
Lisi
Lisi
That still doesn't answer my question. Not
"has he got SUSE?" - he has
actually said he has. But is that an actual SUSE KDE menu. It says
"KDE" and he refuses to say how he installed TDE.
OK, here are the commands.
# zypper remove arts hal kdeaccessibility3 kdeartwork3 kdebase3
kdebindings3 kdeedu3 kdegames3 kdegraphics3 kdelibs3 kdemultimedia3
kdenetwork3 kdepim3 kdesdk3 kdetoys3 kdeutils3 kdewebdev3
# zypper ar -f -n packman
http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_13.1/ packman
# rpm --import
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse13.1/RPM-G
PG-KEY-trinity # zypper ar -t YUM
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse13.1/trini
ty-r14/RPMS/x86_64 trinity
# zypper ar -t YUM
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse13.1/trini
ty-r14/RPMS/noarch trinity-noarch
# zypper refresh
# zypper install trinity-desktop
Is this answer good enough?
7 Jun
7 Jun
11:46 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Switching layouts with keys and a couple of other questions
05.06.2016 21:48, Lisi Reisz wrote:
I have KSnapshot installed, then I just press the
print-screen key. ;-)
I've found a strange thing.
It is set in Settings to call KSnapshot after PrintScreen.
The strange thing is KSnapshot doesn't launch after PrintScreen.
What should I look for to understand the source of the problem?
Best wishes, J. Drahun.
8 Jun
8 Jun
1:09 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Switching layouts with keys and a couple of other questions
On Tuesday 07 June 2016 19:46:31 J. Drahun wrote:
05.06.2016 21:48, Lisi Reisz wrote:
I just noticed that printscr is in the same colored text on the home key
that the top of the FN key is. The lower right front FN key, between Alt
and Ctrl so I pressed the FN and the printscr/home key. ksnapshot
popped right up and took a snap of this whole screen. I don't recall
setting anything like that up. Perhaps yours will work with the
FN+printscr key too?
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
I have KSnapshot installed, then I just press the
print-screen key.
;-)
I've found a strange thing.
It is set in Settings to call KSnapshot after PrintScreen.
The strange thing is KSnapshot doesn't launch after PrintScreen.
What should I look for to understand the source of the problem?
Best wishes, J. Drahun.
10:08 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Switching layouts with keys and a couple of other questions
On Wednesday 08 June 2016 10:30:49 J. Drahun wrote:
08.06.2016 04:09, Gene Heskett wrote:
Your system seems to be a good advertisement for a fresh install!!
Lisi
Perhaps yours will work with the FN+printscr key
too?
Unfortunately it doesn't.
1:17 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Switching layouts with keys and a couple of other questions
On Wednesday 08 June 2016 06:08:20 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Wednesday 08 June 2016 10:30:49 J. Drahun wrote:
I wouldn't say that. There are it seems about 126! ways to respond to a
keyboards output. And as you'll find out, double-floats falls over in
its morning bowl of oats at anything greater than 69!, where the ! is
the factorial of N. 126 would be well beyond the number of seconds since
the big bang. 70 overflows our 16 or 17 digit, displays 12+exponent 100
dollar and up calculators. But I am amazed that kcalc, the old version
with bitfield display, can actually give what looks like a sensible
answer as it CAN display an exponent as a 3 digit number.
The x! of 126 is 2.37217324288e+211, and that folks is one BIG number. :)
I'd say that J. Drahun could waste a morning trying the various keyboards
that ARE im that mutiselector choice I mentioned in the last post, until
he finds one that matches the keyboard he has closely enough that this
stuff works. Or I assume he can mouse thru the menu's to find
ksnapshot, and that should work but its a lot slower than the hot keys
because you have to hunt for it. I've been, up to this thread, hunting
thru the manu's when I needed a screen or window snapshot, so I've
learned a much quicker way.
If he should be so lucky that his keyboard is actually IN that list, he
has won the lottery. There is, but I forget the name of it, an x
utility that can show the exact byte stream coming from the keyboard.
Whether that would be helpfull, IDK, but its there even if it has to be
installed.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
08.06.2016 04:09, Gene Heskett wrote:
Your system seems to be a good advertisement for a fresh install!!
Lisi Perhaps yours will work with the FN+printscr key
too?
Unfortunately it doesn't.
2:15 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Switching layouts with keys and a couple of other questions
On Wednesday 08 June 2016 14:17:37 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Wednesday 08 June 2016 06:08:20 Lisi Reisz wrote:
\It still sounds to me as though his installation is in a bit of a mess. The
problems of the menu are nothing go do with keyboards, And there are other
ways to run ksnapshot, so whether prntscr works or not is almost irrelevant.
Lisi
On Wednesday 08 June 2016 10:30:49 J. Drahun
wrote:
I wouldn't say that. There are it seems about 126! ways to respond to a
keyboards output. And as you'll find out, double-floats falls over in
its morning bowl of oats at anything greater than 69!, where the ! is
the factorial of N. 126 would be well beyond the number of seconds since
the big bang. 70 overflows our 16 or 17 digit, displays 12+exponent 100
dollar and up calculators. But I am amazed that kcalc, the old version
with bitfield display, can actually give what looks like a sensible
answer as it CAN display an exponent as a 3 digit number.
The x! of 126 is 2.37217324288e+211, and that folks is one BIG number. :)
I'd say that J. Drahun could waste a morning trying the various keyboards
that ARE im that mutiselector choice I mentioned in the last post, until
he finds one that matches the keyboard he has closely enough that this
stuff works. Or I assume he can mouse thru the menu's to find
ksnapshot, and that should work but its a lot slower than the hot keys
because you have to hunt for it. I've been, up to this thread, hunting
thru the manu's when I needed a screen or window snapshot, so I've
learned a much quicker way.
If he should be so lucky that his keyboard is actually IN that list, he
has won the lottery. There is, but I forget the name of it, an x
utility that can show the exact byte stream coming from the keyboard.
Whether that would be helpfull, IDK, but its there even if it has to be
installed. 08.06.2016 04:09, Gene Heskett wrote:
Your system seems to be a good advertisement for a fresh install!!
Lisi Perhaps yours will work with the FN+printscr key
too?
Unfortunately it doesn't.
10:50 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Switching layouts with keys and a couple of other questions
08.06.2016 13:08, Lisi Reisz wrote:
Your system seems to be a good advertisement for a
fresh install!!
But this system was installed like a month ago.
As for menu, I am afraid that I could explain not correctly what I want,
so I attach a Start menu to show what I am talking about.
Is that possible in TDE?
9 Jun
9 Jun
12:18 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Switching layouts with keys and a couple of other questions
On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 01:50:17 +0300
"J. Drahun" <dragun97yu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
As for menu, I am afraid that I could explain not
correctly what I want,
so I attach a Start menu to show what I am talking about.
Is that possible in TDE?
I think I've pieced together what your request is: you want the menus to
scroll rather than expanding into two columns. As far as I know, that isn't
possible, but what you can do is use KMenuEdit to create new submenus
to shove the extra items into (or just delete them) until you've reduced the
number of rows to what will fit in one column.
I'd suggest packing the hardware configuration and network configuration
entries off into submenus, and then looking at what you have left.
E. Liddell
12:34 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Switching layouts with keys and a couple of other questions
On Thursday 09 of June 2016 02:18:57 E. Liddell wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 01:50:17 +0300
"J. Drahun" <dragun97yu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I think that there is another option: Click on the menu button using the right
mouse button and select Switch to Kickoff Menu Style. Kickoff menu has a
fixed size, so for a long menus should automatically scroll.
--
Slávek
As for menu, I am afraid that I could explain not
correctly what I want,
so I attach a Start menu to show what I am talking about.
Is that possible in TDE?
I think I've pieced together what your request is: you want the menus to
scroll rather than expanding into two columns. As far as I know, that
isn't possible, but what you can do is use KMenuEdit to create new submenus
to shove the extra items into (or just delete them) until you've reduced
the number of rows to what will fit in one column.
I'd suggest packing the hardware configuration and network configuration
entries off into submenus, and then looking at what you have left.
E. Liddell
7:39 a.m.
Slávek Banko wrote:
I think that there is another option: Click on the
menu button using the
right mouse button and select Switch to Kickoff Menu Style. Kickoff menu
has a fixed size, so for a long menus should automatically scroll.
Thanks Slavek,
I've been looking for that and just now realized (and this is a hint for the
OP) that menu should be _unlocked_ to see this option.
regards
6:08 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Re: Switching layouts with keys and a couple of other questions
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 09 June 2016 08:39:29 deloptes wrote:
Right click on any open space in the panel... I didn't learn anything
about locking, but the OP might be interested in the Configure Panel >
Menus link. I hadn't realized how many Classic menu options there
were.
menu should be _unlocked_
How? And how do you lock it in the first place? 
8 Jun
8 Jun
10:10 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Switching layouts with keys and a couple of other questions
Am Mittwoch, 8. Juni 2016 schrieb J. Drahun:
08.06.2016 04:09, Gene Heskett wrote:
I have the odd feeloing, that you ran in the inamouse "parts of my keyboard react
funny"-bug. The only way of solving this (as far as I know) is to restart with a
clean configuration, e,.g.: move ~/.trinity to ~/.trinity-old and restart. Then you can
cop file by file the configuration from ~/.trinity-old to ~/.trinity - that is, if
it's not less wort to jimply dump ~/.trinity-old.
Nik
--
Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA.
Perhaps yours will work with the FN+printscr key
too?
Unfortunately it doesn't.
Best wishes, J. Drahun.
4:10 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Switching layouts with keys and a couple of other questions
08.06.2016 13:10, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
I have the odd feeloing, that you ran in the inamouse
"parts of my keyboard react funny"-bug. The only way of solving this (as far as
I know) is to restart with a clean configuration, e,.g.: move ~/.trinity to ~/.trinity-old
and restart. Then you can cop file by file the configuration from ~/.trinity-old to
~/.trinity - that is, if it's not less wort to jimply dump ~/.trinity-old.
Surprisingly, it worked!
At the first time I used Windows preset configuration, and PrintScreen
began to work.
Now I haven't changed nothing and it worked.
Unfortunately, switching layouts still doesn't work.
The same for the menu, though.
Best wishes, J. Drahun.
12:47 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Switching layouts with keys and a couple of other questions
On Wednesday 08 June 2016 05:30:49 J. Drahun wrote:
08.06.2016 04:09, Gene Heskett wrote:
Ok, then to all, where in the tde grand scheme of hot keys such as that,
am I likely to find that setting so that I can post it for all to use?
under tde control center>regional & accessability>keyboard shortcuts
I can scan down and I find, on the Global Shortcuts tab, with current
scheme selected,
Window Screenshot Alt+print
Desktop Screenshot Ctl+Print
And down at the bottom of the window, the checkbox "Use Win key as
modifier, is checked. And in keyboard prefs, a generic 104 key was not
selected because the checkbox at the top of the window was not checked,
ghosting everything out.
This keyboard itself is an about 126 key Logitech k360. Its a slightly
odd keyboard, with square sided, not tapered keys as I like to use the
same keyboard on all my machines, and the other 3 keyboards are in what
can best be described as very hostile environments, with flying cuttings
from the machines landing on the keyboard, the straight sided keys do
not jam down from a metallic cutting getting into the area between the
key's side, and the keyboards keyframe, near as easily as a tapered side
key does. I found a membrane supplier who makes a cover for this
keyboard, but I find I have to use additional force when typing or it
doesn't register. Makes writing gcode more difficult, but thats how it
is.
So the bottom line is that the system seems to have a decent default
response, and only one hotkey combo works, and does so without an actual
setting other than a default US keyboard because none is selected. That
multiselector menu offers a lot of different makers keyboards but the
list is old and doesn't include the K360 as a specific choice. And for
the ksnapshot function, only the FN+home key works HERE. And apparently
only if focus is on an empty spot on the screen.
Neither the Ctrl+home, nor the Alt+home as shown above works.
How it arrives at that, based on what I can see, I obviously haven't a
clue. Best I can do is call it a nilmerG. Or a Murphy. :-{
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
Perhaps yours will work with the FN+printscr key
too?
Unfortunately it doesn't.
Best wishes, J. Drahun.
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