After upgrading to Debian 11 on both of my two systems, upon reboot, I lost the TDE Display Manager. The login screen defaults to whatever Debian itself uses and I have been unsuccessful getting the TDE login manager back.
~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity tdm.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it.
Also...during the upgrade, one of the packages it wanted to remove was binutils, which it did. It left a package binutils-common installed, but not upgraded. If I attempted to remove binutils-common, it also wanted to remove numerous Trinity packages.
Is there a fix for these issues??
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Trinity Desktop Environment: 14.0.10 - Debian: 10.10 (amd64)
On 8/15/21 4:59 PM, Edward wrote:
After upgrading to Debian 11 on both of my two systems, upon reboot, I lost the TDE Display Manager. The login screen defaults to whatever Debian itself uses and I have been unsuccessful getting the TDE login manager back.
~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity tdm.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it.
Also...during the upgrade, one of the packages it wanted to remove was binutils, which it did. It left a package binutils-common installed, but not upgraded. If I attempted to remove binutils-common, it also wanted to remove numerous Trinity packages.
Is there a fix for these issues??
After reinstalling tdm-trinity:
Preconfiguring packages ... (Reading database ... 416256 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../tdm-trinity_4%3a14.0.10-0debian10.0.0+0_amd64.deb ... Unpacking tdm-trinity (4:14.0.10-0debian10.0.0+0) over (4:14.0.10-0debian10.0.0+0) ... Setting up tdm-trinity (4:14.0.10-0debian10.0.0+0) ... tdm.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it. Processing triggers for man-db (2.9.4-2) ...
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TDE: R14.0.10 - Debian: 10.10 (amd64)
said Edward: | After upgrading to Debian 11 on both of my two systems, upon reboot, I | lost the TDE Display Manager. The login screen defaults to whatever | Debian itself uses and I have been unsuccessful getting the TDE login | manager back. | | > ~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity | > tdm.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it. | | Also...during the upgrade, one of the packages it wanted to remove was | binutils, which it did. It left a package binutils-common installed, but | not upgraded. If I attempted to remove binutils-common, it also wanted | to remove numerous Trinity packages. | | Is there a fix for these issues??
Hasn't TDM been mostly or entirely supplanted by sddm? -- dep
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On 8/15/21 5:15 PM, dep wrote:
said Edward: | After upgrading to Debian 11 on both of my two systems, upon reboot, I | lost the TDE Display Manager. The login screen defaults to whatever | Debian itself uses and I have been unsuccessful getting the TDE login | manager back. | | > ~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity | > tdm.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it. | | Also...during the upgrade, one of the packages it wanted to remove was | binutils, which it did. It left a package binutils-common installed, but | not upgraded. If I attempted to remove binutils-common, it also wanted | to remove numerous Trinity packages. | | Is there a fix for these issues??
Hasn't TDM been mostly or entirely supplanted by sddm?
dep
sddm was the other display manager installed.
I found instructions at https://linuxhint.com/change-display-manager-debian-linux/ using the command to configure sddm, allowed me to select between it and tdm-trinity as the display manager. Upon a reboot afterwards (both systems), the Trinity Display Manager now successfully comes up.
The binutils issue remains, if I attempt to install it along with one missing dependency through the command line, it still wants to remove binutils-common as well as the numerous Trinity packages.
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Trinity Desktop Environment: 14.0.10 - Debian: 10.10 (amd64)
dep composed on 2021-08-15 21:15 (UTC):
Hasn't TDM been mostly or entirely supplanted by sddm?
On 97% of my installations, not even close. It's missing functionality of KDM/TDM, very frustrating. All my TDE installations have TDM only. I even use it where otherwise I have only KDE/Plasma installed.
All of my Bullseye installations were made long before its official release yesterday. Lately, my only significant problem is TDM on Tumbleweed tries to start before /dev/dri exists, so has to be restarted immediately upon boot "completion". I don't recall reproducing this on Bullseye as yet.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1188954 https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/555514-boots-too-fast-for-Xorg-to...
Info re libr0:
~$ sudo apt install binutils Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies: libr0 : Depends: libbinutils (< 2.31.2) but 2.35.2-2 is to be installed E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. ~$ sudo apt install binutils libbinutils libr0 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done libr0 is already the newest version (4:14.0.10-0debian10.0.0+0). libr0 set to manually installed. Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies: libr0 : Depends: libbinutils (< 2.31.2) but 2.35.2-2 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
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Trinity Desktop Environment: 14.0.10 - Debian: 10.10 (amd64)
said Felix Miata:
| dep composed on 2021-08-15 21:15 (UTC): | > Hasn't TDM been mostly or entirely supplanted by sddm? | | On 97% of my installations, not even close. It's missing functionality | of KDM/TDM, very frustrating. All my TDE installations have TDM only. I | even use it where otherwise I have only KDE/Plasma installed.
Out of curiosity: What functionality did it lose? I truly can't tell the difference here between them. -- dep
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dep composed on 2021-08-15 22:37 (UTC):
said Felix Miata:
| dep composed on 2021-08-15 21:15 (UTC):
| > Hasn't TDM been mostly or entirely supplanted by sddm?
| On 97% of my installations, not even close. It's missing functionality | of KDM/TDM, very frustrating. All my TDE installations have TDM only. I | even use it where otherwise I have only KDE/Plasma installed.
Out of curiosity: What functionality did it lose? I truly can't tell the difference here between them.
I've long since forgotten the differences. Two that come to mind:
1-The "default" mousetype-free (non-themed) theme layout in KDM/TDM is as close to perfect as any greeter could possibly be, and easy to "customize" by copying kdmrc from local template. Everything needed takes minimal mouse movement, if a mouse is to be used at all.
2-No way to pick and choose user names, regardless of UID or GID, to be displayed on login screen in any other DM that I've ever found. IOW, nothing else akin to ShowUsers=Selected and SelectedUsers=userT,userD,userE.
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Felix Miata composed on 2021-08-15 17:58 (UTC-0400):
Lately, my only significant problem is TDM on Tumbleweed tries to start before /dev/dri exists, so has to be restarted immediately upon boot "completion". I don't recall reproducing this on Bullseye as yet.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1188954 https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/555514-boots-too-fast-for-Xorg-to...
Still happening on multiple PCs.
On Sun August 15 2021 13:59:11 Edward wrote:
After upgrading to Debian 11 on both of my two systems, upon reboot, I lost the TDE Display Manager. The login screen defaults to whatever Debian itself uses and I have been unsuccessful getting the TDE login manager back.
I just did Buster->Bullseye upgrade in a VM but I had to pin libr0 from TDE PSB Bullseye to make TDE Stable Buster work with Debian Bullseye until the next TDE Stable releases about the end of October.
It works and I can login but I haven't done much testing.
--Mike
Relevant portion of apt sources:
deb http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/ubuntu buster main deb-src http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/ubuntu buster main deb http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/ubuntu buster main deb-src http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/ubuntu buster main
deb http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/deb/trinity-sb bullseye main-r14 deb-src http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/deb/trinity-sb bullseye main-r14
Relevant portion of apt preferences:
Package: libr0 Pin: release o=trinitydesktop.org,n=bullseye Pin-Priority: 2500
Package: * Pin: release o=trinitydesktop.org,n=buster Pin-Priority: 2000