Hi there.
I just successfully updated to 3.5.13.2 - go team!
As it turns outthe upgrade wasn't a complete upgrade due to missing updated packages for Wheezy.
I used apt-get update && apt-get upgrade as root.
Here's what it said.
The following packages have been kept back: amarok-engine-xine-trinity amarok-trinity kdeaddons-trinity kdeedu-trinity kdemultimedia-trinity kig-trinity libarts1-xine-trinity noatun-plugins-trinity
It seems that amarok-common-trinity isn't available in 3.5.13.2 yet.
Apologies in advance if you already know about this.
Regards, Philip Ashmore
On Sunday 07 of July 2013 02:05:28 Philip Ashmore wrote:
Hi there.
I just successfully updated to 3.5.13.2 - go team!
As it turns outthe upgrade wasn't a complete upgrade due to missing updated packages for Wheezy.
I used apt-get update && apt-get upgrade as root.
Here's what it said.
The following packages have been kept back: amarok-engine-xine-trinity amarok-trinity kdeaddons-trinity kdeedu-trinity kdemultimedia-trinity kig-trinity libarts1-xine-trinity noatun-plugins-trinity
It seems that amarok-common-trinity isn't available in 3.5.13.2 yet.
Apologies in advance if you already know about this.
Regards, Philip Ashmore
Absolutely not. There is only one package in Wheezy missing - it is network-manager-kde-trinity. Amarok in Wheezy certainly not missing. Try again repeat:
apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
Slavek --
On 07/07/13 01:35, Slávek Banko wrote:
On Sunday 07 of July 2013 02:05:28 Philip Ashmore wrote:
Hi there.
I just successfully updated to 3.5.13.2 - go team!
As it turns outthe upgrade wasn't a complete upgrade due to missing updated packages for Wheezy.
I used apt-get update && apt-get upgrade as root.
Here's what it said.
The following packages have been kept back: amarok-engine-xine-trinity amarok-trinity kdeaddons-trinity kdeedu-trinity kdemultimedia-trinity kig-trinity libarts1-xine-trinity noatun-plugins-trinity
It seems that amarok-common-trinity isn't available in 3.5.13.2 yet.
Apologies in advance if you already know about this.
Regards, Philip Ashmore
Absolutely not. There is only one package in Wheezy missing - it is network-manager-kde-trinity. Amarok in Wheezy certainly not missing. Try again repeat:
apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
Slavek
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: amarok-trinity The following NEW packages will be installed: libboost-python1.49.0 libdb5.1++ libxine2 libxine2-bin libxine2-ffmpeg libxine2-misc-plugins libxine2-plugins The following packages will be upgraded: amarok-engine-xine-trinity kdeaddons-trinity kdeedu-trinity kdemultimedia-trinity kig-trinity libarts1-xine-trinity noatun-plugins-trinity 7 upgraded, 7 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 6,132 kB of archives. After this operation, 996 kB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
Here's what synaptic says when I try to upgrade amarok-trinity:
amarok-trinity: Depends: amarok-common-trinity (>=4:3.5.13.2-0debian7.0.0+0) but 4:3.5.13-1debian0+ax1~squeeze is to be installed Depends: amarok-engine-xine-trinity (=4:3.5.13.2-0debian7.0.0+0) but 4:3.5.13-1debian0+ax1~squeeze is to be installed or amarok-engine-yauap-trinity but it is not going to be installed Depends: libmp4v2-2 but it is not going to be installed Depends: libmtp9 but it is not going to be installed
Regards, Philip Ashmore
On Sunday 07 of July 2013 17:07:03 Philip Ashmore wrote:
On 07/07/13 01:35, Slávek Banko wrote:
On Sunday 07 of July 2013 02:05:28 Philip Ashmore wrote:
Hi there.
I just successfully updated to 3.5.13.2 - go team!
As it turns outthe upgrade wasn't a complete upgrade due to missing updated packages for Wheezy.
I used apt-get update && apt-get upgrade as root.
Here's what it said.
The following packages have been kept back: amarok-engine-xine-trinity amarok-trinity kdeaddons-trinity kdeedu-trinity kdemultimedia-trinity kig-trinity libarts1-xine-trinity noatun-plugins-trinity
It seems that amarok-common-trinity isn't available in 3.5.13.2 yet.
Apologies in advance if you already know about this.
Regards, Philip Ashmore
Absolutely not. There is only one package in Wheezy missing - it is network-manager-kde-trinity. Amarok in Wheezy certainly not missing. Try again repeat:
apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
Slavek
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: amarok-trinity The following NEW packages will be installed: libboost-python1.49.0 libdb5.1++ libxine2 libxine2-bin libxine2-ffmpeg libxine2-misc-plugins libxine2-plugins The following packages will be upgraded: amarok-engine-xine-trinity kdeaddons-trinity kdeedu-trinity kdemultimedia-trinity kig-trinity libarts1-xine-trinity noatun-plugins-trinity 7 upgraded, 7 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 6,132 kB of archives. After this operation, 996 kB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
Here's what synaptic says when I try to upgrade amarok-trinity:
amarok-trinity: Depends: amarok-common-trinity (>=4:3.5.13.2-0debian7.0.0+0) but 4:3.5.13-1debian0+ax1~squeeze is to be installed Depends: amarok-engine-xine-trinity (=4:3.5.13.2-0debian7.0.0+0) but 4:3.5.13-1debian0+ax1~squeeze is to be installed or amarok-engine-yauap-trinity but it is not going to be installed Depends: libmp4v2-2 but it is not going to be installed Depends: libmtp9 but it is not going to be installed
Regards, Philip Ashmore
Interesting. When on test machine I used only official apt sources, I see the same error - amarok-common-trinity is missing. When I used my PPA, everything is fine. Looks like a bug in the publishing from my PPA to official sources.
Thanks for the warning - we have to check it out.
Slavek --
On 07/07/13 17:21, Slávek Banko wrote:
On Sunday 07 of July 2013 17:07:03 Philip Ashmore wrote:
On 07/07/13 01:35, Slávek Banko wrote:
On Sunday 07 of July 2013 02:05:28 Philip Ashmore wrote:
Hi there.
I just successfully updated to 3.5.13.2 - go team!
As it turns outthe upgrade wasn't a complete upgrade due to missing updated packages for Wheezy.
I used apt-get update && apt-get upgrade as root.
Here's what it said.
The following packages have been kept back: amarok-engine-xine-trinity amarok-trinity kdeaddons-trinity kdeedu-trinity kdemultimedia-trinity kig-trinity libarts1-xine-trinity noatun-plugins-trinity
It seems that amarok-common-trinity isn't available in 3.5.13.2 yet.
Apologies in advance if you already know about this.
Regards, Philip Ashmore
Absolutely not. There is only one package in Wheezy missing - it is network-manager-kde-trinity. Amarok in Wheezy certainly not missing. Try again repeat:
apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
Slavek
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: amarok-trinity The following NEW packages will be installed: libboost-python1.49.0 libdb5.1++ libxine2 libxine2-bin libxine2-ffmpeg libxine2-misc-plugins libxine2-plugins The following packages will be upgraded: amarok-engine-xine-trinity kdeaddons-trinity kdeedu-trinity kdemultimedia-trinity kig-trinity libarts1-xine-trinity noatun-plugins-trinity 7 upgraded, 7 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 6,132 kB of archives. After this operation, 996 kB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
Here's what synaptic says when I try to upgrade amarok-trinity:
amarok-trinity: Depends: amarok-common-trinity (>=4:3.5.13.2-0debian7.0.0+0) but 4:3.5.13-1debian0+ax1~squeeze is to be installed Depends: amarok-engine-xine-trinity (=4:3.5.13.2-0debian7.0.0+0) but 4:3.5.13-1debian0+ax1~squeeze is to be installed or amarok-engine-yauap-trinity but it is not going to be installed Depends: libmp4v2-2 but it is not going to be installed Depends: libmtp9 but it is not going to be installed
Regards, Philip Ashmore
Interesting. When on test machine I used only official apt sources, I see the same error - amarok-common-trinity is missing. When I used my PPA, everything is fine. Looks like a bug in the publishing from my PPA to official sources.
Thanks for the warning - we have to check it out.
Slavek
Using your PPA made some difference, but it's still not complete - I noticed that some packages are still building so maybe that explainsit.
sudo apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages have been kept back: amarok-common-trinity amarok-engine-xine-trinity amarok-trinity kdeaddons-trinity kdeedu-trinity kdemultimedia-trinity kig-trinity libarts1-xine-trinity noatun-plugins-trinity The following packages will be upgraded: arts-trinity 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 9 not upgraded. Need to get 7,604 B of archives. After this operation, 15.4 kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Get:1 http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu/ wheezy/main arts-trinity all 4:3.5.13.2-0debian7.0.0+0 [7,604 B] Fetched 7,604 B in 0s (9,790 B/s) Retrieving bug reports... Done Parsing Found/Fixed information... Done Reading changelogs... Done (Reading database ... 254833 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace arts-trinity 4:3.5.13-1debian0+ax2~squeeze (using .../arts-trinity_4%3a3.5.13.2-0debian7.0.0+0_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement arts-trinity ... Setting up arts-trinity (4:3.5.13.2-0debian7.0.0+0) ...
Regards, Philip Ashmore
On 07/06/2013 05:35 PM, Slávek Banko wrote:
There is only one package in Wheezy missing - it is network-manager-kde-trinity.
Any word on when network-manager will be available for Wheezy? I've had some issues with wicd and would like to use something else.
Or, is there another network manager I can use on Wheezy?
Thanks.
Dne po 8. července 2013 Dan Youngquist napsal(a):
Any word on when network-manager will be available for Wheezy? I've had some issues with wicd and would like to use something else.
Or, is there another network manager I can use on Wheezy?
There is currently no plan for solving it in 3.5.13.x branch. For R14 is already new solution, but cannot be smoothly backported.
You have two options: 1) use another applet - as mentioned previously nm-applet 2) keep the network-manager from squeeze
Slavek --
On 08/07/13 18:33, Slávek Banko wrote:
Dne po 8. července 2013 Dan Youngquist napsal(a):
Any word on when network-manager will be available for Wheezy? I've had some issues with wicd and would like to use something else.
Or, is there another network manager I can use on Wheezy?
There is currently no plan for solving it in 3.5.13.x branch. For R14 is already new solution, but cannot be smoothly backported.
You have two options:
- use another applet - as mentioned previously nm-applet
- keep the network-manager from squeeze
Slavek
Ijust ran an apt-get update &&apt-get dist-upgrade - all my trinity packages are updated.
I usewpa-supplicant.conf for my wifi, that way the network is even available without a GUI. Set it and forget it.
Regards, Philip Ashmore
On 07/08/2013 10:33 AM, Slávek Banko wrote:
Dne po 8. července 2013 Dan Youngquist napsal(a):
Or, is there another network manager I can use on Wheezy?
You have two options:
- use another applet - as mentioned previously nm-applet
- keep the network-manager from squeeze
I'm still having trouble getting a working wireless applet. I can't find nm-applet, and I haven't had any luck installing network-manager from Squeeze. Can you give me a little help on how to make either of these suggestions work?
I'd use wicd, but it doesn't seem to want to work for me. When I tell it to connect to a different network, it tries to connect, then gives up and reconnects to the first network. I've had other problems with it as well, like not being able to connect to certain routers.
This is a serious problem because most users just need a simple, working wireless connection, and don't know what to do when it doesn't work. If I can't find a solution, I'll have to put most on XFCE until R14 comes out.
Hi,
I use squeese. nm-applet is from the network-manager-applet package,
hope this hels
Calvin
On 22 July 2013 17:22, Dan Youngquist dan@homestead-products.com wrote:
On 07/08/2013 10:33 AM, Slávek Banko wrote:
Dne po 8. července 2013 Dan Youngquist napsal(a):
Or, is there another network manager I can use on Wheezy?
You have two options:
- use another applet - as mentioned previously nm-applet
- keep the network-manager from squeeze
I'm still having trouble getting a working wireless applet. I can't find nm-applet, and I haven't had any luck installing network-manager from Squeeze. Can you give me a little help on how to make either of these suggestions work?
I'd use wicd, but it doesn't seem to want to work for me. When I tell it to connect to a different network, it tries to connect, then gives up and reconnects to the first network. I've had other problems with it as well, like not being able to connect to certain routers.
This is a serious problem because most users just need a simple, working wireless connection, and don't know what to do when it doesn't work. If I can't find a solution, I'll have to put most on XFCE until R14 comes out.
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On 07/22/2013 02:25 PM, Calvin Morrison wrote:
I use squeese. nm-applet is from the network-manager-applet package,
The problem is making it work on Wheezy. I suppose I could go back to Squeeze, but it seems better to put new installs on XFCE for now, if it comes to that. XFCE has a really good network applet, and most users don't really notice the difference as long as everything they need works.
On 07/22/2013 02:25 PM, Calvin Morrison wrote:
I use squeese. nm-applet is from the network-manager-applet package,
The problem is making it work on Wheezy. I suppose I could go back to Squeeze, but it seems better to put new installs on XFCE for now, if it comes to that. XFCE has a really good network applet, and most users don't really notice the difference as long as everything they need works.
--
I'd have to say that every time I had to/wanted to use Debian systems, I had this kind of problems. If it is not super important for you to use a Debian-based distro, I would really recommend you to try PCLinuxOS or Mageia. They comes with tons of easy to use administration and networking tools. And they works with any desktop environment you want to use, even small window managers. No need to know by heart console lines to write to do ... things.
-Alexandre
On Monday 22 July 2013 23:37:35 Alexandre Couture wrote:
On 07/22/2013 02:25 PM, Calvin Morrison wrote:
I use squeese. nm-applet is from the network-manager-applet package,
The problem is making it work on Wheezy. I suppose I could go back to Squeeze, but it seems better to put new installs on XFCE for now, if it comes to that. XFCE has a really good network applet, and most users don't really notice the difference as long as everything they need works.
--
I'd have to say that every time I had to/wanted to use Debian systems, I had this kind of problems. If it is not super important for you to use a Debian-based distro, I would really recommend you to try PCLinuxOS or Mageia.
A Mageia user of my acquaintance is currently complaining that wireless connections are dodgy. He is thinking of using something else for a bit in the hope that the probem will be ironed out.
They comes with tons of easy to use administration and networking tools. And they works with any desktop environment you want to use, even small window managers. No need to know by heart console lines to write to do ... things.
Lisi
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 07:13:36 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.reisz@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday 22 July 2013 23:37:35 Alexandre Couture wrote:
On 07/22/2013 02:25 PM, Calvin Morrison wrote:
I use squeese. nm-applet is from the network-manager-applet package,
The problem is making it work on Wheezy. I suppose I could go back to Squeeze, but it seems better to put new installs on XFCE for now, if it comes to that. XFCE has a really good network applet, and most users don't really notice the difference as long as everything they need works.
--
I'd have to say that every time I had to/wanted to use Debian systems, I had this kind of problems. If it is not super important for you to use a Debian-based distro, I would really recommend you to try PCLinuxOS or Mageia.
A Mageia user of my acquaintance is currently complaining that wireless connections are dodgy. He is thinking of using something else for a bit in the hope that the probem will be ironed out.
They comes with tons of easy to use administration and networking tools. And they works with any desktop environment you want to use, even small window managers. No need to know by heart console lines to write to do ... things.
Lisi
Wireless in any *nix is going to be iffy and not very good, simply because there's not enough folk in the linux world working on wireless *and* the wireless hardware manufacturers aren't helping one iota, so the few linux dev's working on wireless are forced to do everything by baby steps. It's a shame, but that's just the way it is at present.
Wireless in any *nix is going to be iffy and not very good, simply because there's not enough folk in the linux world working on wireless *and* the wireless hardware manufacturers aren't helping one iota, so the few linux dev's working on wireless are forced to do everything by baby steps. It's a shame, but that's just the way it is at present.
-- “Those who suppress freedom always do so in the name of law and order.” -John v. Lindsey
On PCLinuxOS, if the very few cases where the wireless can't work with the native drivers, which are all included stock, even for non-free ones, you can use your Windows driver with ndiswrapper. It even has a wizard in the Control Center to guide the user to choose either a native driver or one of the included Windows drivers for ndiswrapper. If your driver is not in the list, you can provide your own Windows driver. On every PCLinuxOS computers I tried, Wi-Fi was rock solid, as reliable as wired ethernet, and this on a wide variety of networks.
This is a case where a distro that has comprehensive hardware support and config tools is important.
-Alexandre
OK, no nm-applet in wheezy.
currently I have: -LXDE running a network applet, which smoothly finds the mobile network card and connects to the Network/Internet -Trinity having no nm-applet and NOT finding the mobile network card at all
Sadly this is one thing is the ONLY reason, why I can't use trinity at all.... What I don't understand: Isn't the same networkmanager used by all these applets?
Or can I use another applet (not Trinity to manage the Networkinterfaces?)
Thanks
Hi,
I use squeese. nm-applet is from the network-manager-applet package,
hope this hels
Calvin
On 22 July 2013 17:22, Dan Youngquist dan@homestead-products.com wrote:
On 07/08/2013 10:33 AM, Slávek Banko wrote:
Dne po 8. července 2013 Dan Youngquist napsal(a):
Or, is there another network manager I can use on Wheezy?
You have two options:
- use another applet - as mentioned previously nm-applet
- keep the network-manager from squeeze
I'm still having trouble getting a working wireless applet. I can't find nm-applet, and I haven't had any luck installing network-manager from Squeeze. Can you give me a little help on how to make either of these suggestions work?
I'd use wicd, but it doesn't seem to want to work for me. When I tell it to connect to a different network, it tries to connect, then gives up and reconnects to the first network. I've had other problems with it as well, like not being able to connect to certain routers.
This is a serious problem because most users just need a simple, working wireless connection, and don't know what to do when it doesn't work. If I can't find a solution, I'll have to put most on XFCE until R14 comes out.
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On Friday 06 December 2013 09:06:33 Frank Lienhard wrote:
OK, no nm-applet in wheezy.
currently I have: -LXDE running a network applet, which smoothly finds the mobile network card and connects to the Network/Internet -Trinity having no nm-applet and NOT finding the mobile network card at all
Sadly this is one thing is the ONLY reason, why I can't use trinity at all.... What I don't understand: Isn't the same networkmanager used by all these applets?
Or can I use another applet (not Trinity to manage the Networkinterfaces?)
I generally uninstall NetworkManager and install wicd.
Lisi
wicd is running, but doesn't recognizes the mobile network (SIM card in a UMTS express card)
On Friday 06 December 2013 09:06:33 Frank Lienhard wrote:
OK, no nm-applet in wheezy.
currently I have: -LXDE running a network applet, which smoothly finds the mobile network card and connects to the Network/Internet -Trinity having no nm-applet and NOT finding the mobile network card at all
Sadly this is one thing is the ONLY reason, why I can't use trinity at all.... What I don't understand: Isn't the same networkmanager used by all these applets?
Or can I use another applet (not Trinity to manage the Networkinterfaces?)
I generally uninstall NetworkManager and install wicd.
Lisi
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