12 Sep
2011
12 Sep
'11
11:52 a.m.
http://sudhendu.in/node/13
I wonder if this feature is backportable to Trinity - John
12 Sep
12 Sep
2:21 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] KMail HTML replies!
On Monday 12 September 2011 13:52:02 John A. Sullivan III wrote:
http://sudhendu.in/node/13
I wonder if this feature is backportable to Trinity
hopefully, not :)
werner
2:31 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] KMail HTML replies!
Am Montag, 12. September 2011 schrieb Werner Joss:
On Monday 12 September 2011 13:52:02 John A. Sullivan
III wrote:
agreed :)
http://sudhendu.in/node/13
I wonder if this feature is backportable to Trinity
hopefully, not :)
werner
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6:07 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] KMail HTML replies!
On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 16:31 +0200, Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Montag, 12. September 2011 schrieb Werner Joss:
Sorry but as much as there are all kinds of technical and
security
reasons why this should not be done (which I wholeheartedly embrance and
which is why KDE resisted for so long), the business case is
overwhelming. KMail is a non-starter without it in many environments -
John
On Monday 12 September 2011 13:52:02 John A.
Sullivan III wrote:
agreed :)
><snip> http://sudhendu.in/node/13
I wonder if this feature is backportable to Trinity
hopefully, not :)
6:17 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] KMail HTML replies!
On Monday 12 September 2011 20:07:02 John A. Sullivan III wrote:
Sorry but as much as there are all kinds of technical
and security
reasons why this should not be done (which I wholeheartedly embrance and
which is why KDE resisted for so long), the business case is
overwhelming. KMail is a non-starter without it in many environments -
sure, but why the heck should it (especially the kde 3.5.x version) be
a 'starter' in an ms-outlook-crap dominated environment ?
makes no sense, IMHO.
those who want/need things like that, for whatever reason, are surely better
off with kde 4.x (which has even more 'ms-features' anyways)
werner
6:24 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] KMail HTML replies!
On Monday 12 September 2011 20:07:02 John A. Sullivan
III wrote:
We aim to provide our users with what they want. Philosophically there is
no problem with adding HTML support (through an as-of-yet unknown
technical means ;-))--in the TDE style of doing things there would be a
configuration option to shut off the HTML reply feature.
Also, I would be careful about bashing Microsoft in terms of the features
offered. While I do not like Micro$oft, and I absolutely hate what they
did to Windows over the past couple of releases, Windows 2000 and XP were
workhorse operating systems that still do things that Linux can't.
Tim
Sorry but as much as there are all kinds of
technical and security
reasons why this should not be done (which I wholeheartedly embrance and
which is why KDE resisted for so long), the business case is
overwhelming. Â KMail is a non-starter without it in many environments -
sure, but why the heck should it (especially the kde 3.5.x version) be
a 'starter' in an ms-outlook-crap dominated environment ?
makes no sense, IMHO.
those who want/need things like that, for whatever reason, are surely
better
off with kde 4.x (which has even more 'ms-features' anyways)
werner
6:37 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] KMail HTML replies!
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011, Timothy Pearson wrote:
Please, make OFF the default. IINM, that's what it has been until
recently in the KDE4 world. The change in default caught many unawares
and it upset quite a few folks -- tracking the chatter on usenet.
Jonesy
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On Monday 12
September 2011 20:07:02 John A. Sullivan III wrote:
We aim to provide our users with what they want. Philosophically there is
no problem with adding HTML support (through an as-of-yet unknown
technical means ;-))--in the TDE style of doing things there would be a
configuration option to shut off the HTML reply feature. Sorry but as much as there are all kinds of
technical and security
reasons why this should not be done (which I wholeheartedly embrance and
which is why KDE resisted for so long), the business case is
overwhelming. Â KMail is a non-starter without it in many environments -
sure, but why the heck should it (especially the kde 3.5.x version) be
a 'starter' in an ms-outlook-crap dominated environment ?
makes no sense, IMHO.
those who want/need things like that, for whatever reason, are surely
better off with kde 4.x (which has even more 'ms-features' anyways)
6:55 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] KMail HTML replies!
On Monday 12 September 2011 20:24:13 Timothy Pearson wrote:
We aim to provide our users with what they want.
Philosophically there is
no problem with adding HTML support (through an as-of-yet unknown
technical means ;-))--in the TDE style of doing things there would be a
configuration option to shut off the HTML reply feature.
as marvin already wrote: no problem when OFF ist the default :)
Also, I would be careful about bashing Microsoft in
terms of the features
offered. While I do not like Micro$oft, and I absolutely hate what they
did to Windows over the past couple of releases, Windows 2000 and XP were
workhorse operating systems that still do things that Linux can't.
sure, there are always things that are only (or better) available in one
environment than in another (true even for windoze ;-) )
same goes vice versa (features only available in linux, NOT in any windoze
flavour).
and these are far more.
at least for me.
werner
13 Sep
13 Sep
12:07 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] KMail HTML replies!
Kmail is already capable of creating html emails as well as displaying
html emails.
The default is simply off. It can be activated in setting for full on
use or as needed per email.
I agree, html email is bad and its being abandoned by the majority for
security sake.
However Tim is correct, the option should be there.,
The most logical solution is to repeat what was done on 3.5.10, make
it available with off as the default.
Off to sleep!
Kate
12:28 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] KMail HTML replies!
On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 20:07 -0400, Katheryne Draven wrote:
Kmail is already capable of creating html emails as
well as displaying
html emails.
The default is simply off. It can be activated in setting for full on
use or as needed per email.
I agree, html email is bad and its being abandoned by the majority for
security sake.
However Tim is correct, the option should be there.,
The most logical solution is to repeat what was done on 3.5.10, make
it available with off as the default.
Off to sleep!
<snip>
That is true for composition but not replies. Replies to HTML formatted
emails convert the original email to plain text discarding all
formatting - John
2:26 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] KMail HTML replies!
On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 20:07 -0400, Katheryne Draven
wrote:
Really? That's interesting--it means that Trinity already has some kind
of HTML editor in place.
Hmmm.
Tim
Kmail is already capable of creating html emails
as well as displaying
html emails.
The default is simply off. It can be activated in setting for full on
use or as needed per email.
I agree, html email is bad and its being abandoned by the majority for
security sake.
However Tim is correct, the option should be there.,
The most logical solution is to repeat what was done on 3.5.10, make
it available with off as the default.
Off to sleep!
<snip>
That is true for composition but not replies. Replies to HTML formatted
emails convert the original email to plain text discarding all
formatting - John
2:38 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] KMail HTML replies!
On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 21:26 -0500, Timothy Pearson wrote:
<snip>
That was the gist of the long thread where we thought Trinity was going
to do the bounty based work to implement it. There is rudimentary HTML
composition available in Trinity KMail as far as I recall. It is
limited but it works. The outcry on the KDE forums was that one could
not reply to an HTML mail and retain its formatting. The reply was
always converted to plain text - John
On Mon,
2011-09-12 at 20:07 -0400, Katheryne Draven wrote:
Really? That's interesting--it means that Trinity already has some kind
of HTML editor in place.
Hmmm.
Tim Kmail is already capable of creating html emails
as well as displaying
html emails.
The default is simply off. It can be activated in setting for full on
use or as needed per email.
I agree, html email is bad and its being abandoned by the majority for
security sake.
However Tim is correct, the option should be there.,
The most logical solution is to repeat what was done on 3.5.10, make
it available with off as the default.
Off to sleep!
<snip>
That is true for composition but not replies. Replies to HTML formatted
emails convert the original email to plain text discarding all
formatting - John
4:43 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] KMail HTML replies!
On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 21:26 -0500, Timothy Pearson
wrote:
formatted
<snip>
That was the gist of the long thread where we thought Trinity was going
to do the bounty based work to implement it. There is rudimentary HTML
composition available in Trinity KMail as far as I recall. It is
limited but it works. The outcry on the KDE forums was that one could
not reply to an HTML mail and retain its formatting. The reply was
always converted to plain text - John
Sorry, I was unaware of that feature. My fault! Trinity is so large that
I can easily lose track of things.... :-)
Tim
On Mon,
2011-09-12 at 20:07 -0400, Katheryne Draven wrote:
> Kmail is already capable of creating html emails as well as
displaying
> html emails.
> The default is simply off. It can be activated in setting for full
on
> use or as needed per email.
>
> I agree, html email is bad and its being abandoned by the majority
for
security
sake.
However Tim is correct, the option should be there.,
The most logical solution is to repeat what was done on 3.5.10, make
it available with off as the default.
Off to sleep!
<snip>
That is true for composition but not replies. Replies to HTML emails convert the original email to plain text
discarding all
formatting - John
Really? That's interesting--it means that Trinity already has some kind
of HTML editor in place.
Hmmm.
Tim
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