[trinity-users] Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
24 May
2020
24 May
'20
6:43 a.m.
Hi
This is a bizarre problem which I did not have in earlier trinity
versions. I use the fn F1 key to silence my audio, but then I have to
use the *kmixer* (either pulse audio or HDA Intel) to reactive the
speaker, the FN keys wouldn't do it, however in earlier version, just
raising the volume would open the speaker, now it does not. Is this a
BUG?
Regards
Uwe Brauer
24 May
24 May
6:49 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
>> "UB" == Uwe Brauer
<oub.oub.oub(a)gmail.com> writes:
Hi
This is a bizarre problem which I did not have in
earlier trinity
versions. I use the fn F1 key to silence my audio, but then I have to
use the *kmixer* (either pulse audio or HDA Intel) to reactive the
speaker, the FN keys wouldn't do it, however in earlier version, just
raising the volume would open the speaker, now it does not. Is this a
BUG?
To make this clear
1. FN-1 turns of master and speaker
2. But when pressed again turns on master but *not* speaker.
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7:30 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
Uwe Brauer wrote:
To make this clear
1. FN-1 turns of master and speaker
2. But when pressed again turns on master but *not* speaker.
There is a patch pending since some time, that Michele was working on
recently. From what I have seen he prepared a backport that will go into
14.0 when ready.
Perhaps we should understand and test your use case. I was testing the day
before on a VM and older Notebook D520 with the default multimedia keys
(usb keyboard with MM keys and MM combination FN+<n>).
I see on the internet that on the Thinkpad X1
FN+1 = Mute
FN+2 = decrease volume
FN+3 = increase volume
So it seems that default MM keys are being used on your end. I believe the
patch will work for you, so be patient or if you can recompile the code,
you could help testing it :)
regards
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New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
Anno domini 2020 Sun, 24 May 09:30:31 +0200
deloptes scripsit:
Uwe Brauer wrote:
I see this on my thinkpads, too. I can mute the sound with the
"mute/unmute"-key, but not unmute it again with that key. To unmute I have to
press "volume up" or "volume down".
Nik
To make this clear
1. FN-1 turns of master and speaker
2. But when pressed again turns on master but *not* speaker.
There is a patch pending since some time, that Michele was working on
recently. From what I have seen he prepared a backport that will go into
14.0 when ready.
Perhaps we should understand and test your use case. I was testing the day
before on a VM and older Notebook D520 with the default multimedia keys
(usb keyboard with MM keys and MM combination FN+<n>).
I see on the internet that on the Thinkpad X1
FN+1 = Mute
FN+2 = decrease volume
FN+3 = increase volume
So it seems that default MM keys are being used on your end. I believe the
patch will work for you, so be patient or if you can recompile the code,
you could help testing it :)
regards
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New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
Anno domini 2020 Sun, 24 May 09:30:31 +0200
deloptes scripsit:
I see this on my thinkpads, too. I can mute the sound
with the
"mute/unmute"-key, but not unmute it again with that key. To unmute I
have to press "volume up" or "volume down".
This worked in earlier thinkpads (X-201) or earlier releases, now even
this does *not* work any more for me.
Since I have to do lately a lot of
video conferencing (sounds familiar to most of you), I find the current
situation quite uncomfortable, I must say.
8:57 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
Uwe Brauer wrote:
There is a patch pending since some time, that Michele
was working on
recently. From what I have seen he prepared a backport that will go into
14.0 when ready.
Perhaps we should understand and test your use case. I
was testing the day
before on a VM and older Notebook D520 with the default multimedia keys
(usb keyboard with MM keys and MM combination FN+<n>).
I see on the internet that on the Thinkpad X1
FN+1 = Mute
FN+2 = decrease volume
FN+3 = increase volume
So it seems that default MM keys are being used on
your end. I believe the
patch will work for you, so be patient or if you can recompile the code,
you could help testing it :)
Thanks (so I have to use git to clone the repository I presume, sigh,
fortunately there is the hg-git plugin)
9:02 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
On Sunday 24 May 2020 10:57:17 Uwe Brauer wrote:
Hi,
Is it possible to stop the certificate ?
Thanks, regards.
André
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12:03 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
>> "a" == ajh-valmer
<ajh.valmer(a)free.fr> writes:
On Sunday 24 May 2020 10:57:17 Uwe Brauer wrote:
Hi,
Is it possible to stop the certificate ?
You mean, you don't want me to smime sign my messages?
As you maybe just noted in his answer, michedlle signed his message as
well, he used pgp (not smime) and he even did not use pgm-mime but a good
old ASCII signature.
So given that some people sign their message, I would like to know why
you want me not to sign it.[1]
Out of courtesy I did not sign the message, but I would like a real good
reason for your discrimination.
Thanks
Footnotes:
[1] especially given the fact that my signature contains my public key,
so you could in principle send me an encrypted message, while this
is not the case with pgp signed messages.
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9:45 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
Uwe Brauer wrote:
Thanks (so I have to use git to clone the repository I
presume, sigh,
fortunately there is the hg-git plugin)
Yes true
look at feat/pa-support (kmix)
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdemultimedia/pulls/19
and feat/pa-support for the OSD part (kmilo)
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdeutils/pulls/26
Michele reported that in some cases it is good to reset to default MM keys
or reset custom again. For me it worked on the fly.
regards
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11:42 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
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On 2020/05/24 06:45 PM, deloptes wrote:
Uwe Brauer wrote:
Hi everyone,
I am replying here to all emails in this thread
The problem with mute/unmute is caused by PulseAudio and it is a long standing issue (I
found posts from 2011 about
this in internet). Basically this happens when we are muting/unmuting the ALSA master
channel instead of PA master
channel. Muting ALSA master will also mute PA master (which may even mute ALSA PCM as a
consequence). Unmuting ALSA
master will unmute such channel but not PA master. The correct way is to mute/unmute PA
master.
The current KMix/KMilo code in master and R14.0.x does not support PA well and this
problem is a consequence of that.
I have recently prepared a full fix that will go in master branch probably tomorrow, but
given that it brings along a
significant API change, it won't make it to R14.0.x branch. Anyhow a small section of
the fix will be backported to
address some of the issues I found will fixing PA support for R14.1.0.
For the time being (till R14.1.0 is out - possibly end of 2020) you have the following
choices:
1) you can mute/unmute from the KMix slider LED, this should work fine with PA already
2) you can open KMix mixer windod -> Settings -> Configure global shortcuts and
remap the "toggle mute" keyboard
shortcut to some other key combination. Do not use "XF86AudioMute" key, since
this is normally used by KMilo and
therefore may not work
3) you can create a script that calls "dcop kmix Mixer-1 toggleMasterMute", this
will mute/unmute the PA master
channel. You can add an input action tied to a keyboard shortcut to call this easy.
4) if you are on debian-like distro, you could switch to Slavek's PTB packages and get
the latest R14.1.0-dev packages
at regular intervals. This will bring you the complete fix in a few days
Cheers
Michele
Thanks (so I have to use git to clone the
repository I presume, sigh, fortunately there is the hg-git plugin)
Yes true
look at feat/pa-support (kmix)
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdemultimedia/pulls/19
and feat/pa-support for the OSD part (kmilo)
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdeutils/pulls/26
Michele reported that in some cases it is good to reset to default MM keys or reset
custom again. For me it worked
on the fly.
regards
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12:11 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
Hi thanks for this detailed answer
For the time being (till R14.1.0 is out - possibly end
of 2020) you have the following choices:
1) you can mute/unmute from the KMix slider LED, this
should work fine with PA already
This works but it is inconvenient since you have to fiddle with controls
2) you can open KMix mixer windod -> Settings ->
Configure global shortcuts and remap the "toggle mute" keyboard
shortcut to some other key combination. Do not use "XF86AudioMute" key, since
this is normally used by KMilo and
therefore may not work
Thanks for this but: it does *not work*.
I just bound it to Win+F1 for testing:
this «Toogle mute» only switches the
master but not the speaker, so it does the same as does Fn-F1
3) you can create a script that calls "dcop kmix
Mixer-1 toggleMasterMute", this will mute/unmute the PA master
channel. You can add an input action tied to a keyboard shortcut to call this easy.
The script works, nicely
4) if you are on debian-like distro, you could switch
to Slavek's PTB packages and get the latest R14.1.0-dev packages
at regular intervals. This will bring you the complete fix in a few days
does that
mean Ubuntu included?
Would you mind telling me the ppa?
Thanks again
Uwe
PS I signed this message, since you did the same, some people do
complain, though
1:34 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
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Uhm.. I am not sure what you mean by "speaker". Is
that the speaker icon in KMix? In that case, see bug 3110. It will
be fixed soon, once the PR mentioned that will be merged (possibly tomorrow).
If you mean something else, please clarify :-)
All distros for which PTB are built, so ubuntu
included. See here:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Testing_Builds
Cheers
Michele
2) you can
open KMix mixer windod -> Settings -> Configure global shortcuts and remap the
"toggle mute" keyboard
shortcut to some other key combination. Do not use "XF86AudioMute" key, since
this is normally used by KMilo and
therefore may not work
Thanks for this but: it does *not work*.
I just bound it to Win+F1 for testing: this «Toogle mute» only switches the master but
not the speaker, so it does
the same as does Fn-F1 4) if you are
on debian-like distro, you could switch to Slavek's PTB packages and get the latest
R14.1.0-dev
packages at regular intervals. This will bring you the complete fix in a few days
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New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
On Sunday 24 May 2020 08:11:34 Uwe Brauer wrote:
Hi thanks for this detailed answer
Thats because the key issuer is some sort of all caps, 3 line swahili we
never heard of before. All of a sudden we're getting popups from
pientry-gnome3 asking us to swear that this key signer is legit. How
theheck are wwe to know?
And it doesn't copy-paste, blocks all other input while its present on
screen. Being the paranoid old fart I am, I am not about to click ok on
such a mystery message. click on close or cancel changes the main,
yellow kmail warning to click this for details, I click and it then says
no details available. Is there a switch to shut this stuff off?
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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For the time being (till R14.1.0 is out -
possibly end of 2020)
you have the following choices:
1) you can mute/unmute from the KMix slider LED, this should work
fine with PA already
This works but it is inconvenient since you have to fiddle with
controls
2) you can open KMix mixer windod -> Settings
-> Configure global
shortcuts and remap the "toggle mute" keyboard shortcut to some
other key combination. Do not use "XF86AudioMute" key, since this
is normally used by KMilo and therefore may not work
Thanks for this but: it does *not work*.
I just bound it to Win+F1 for testing:
this «Toogle mute» only switches the
master but not the speaker, so it does the same as does Fn-F1
3) you can create a script that calls "dcop
kmix Mixer-1
toggleMasterMute", this will mute/unmute the PA master channel.
You can add an input action tied to a keyboard shortcut to call
this easy.
The script works, nicely
4) if you are on debian-like distro, you could
switch to Slavek's
PTB packages and get the latest R14.1.0-dev packages at regular
intervals. This will bring you the complete fix in a few days
does that mean Ubuntu included?
Would you mind telling me the ppa?
Thanks again
Uwe
PS I signed this message, since you did the same, some people do
complain, though
3:21 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
Anno domini 2020 Sun, 24 May 10:59:51 -0400
Gene Heskett scripsit:
On Sunday 24 May 2020 08:11:34 Uwe Brauer wrote:
I have a filter for kmail that handles anoying stuff. Signed mails are not in this group
for me, so it's missing this feature ... but feel free to extend it :)
Nik
Hi thanks for this detailed answer
Thats because the key issuer is some sort of all caps, 3 line swahili we
never heard of before. All of a sudden we're getting popups from
pientry-gnome3 asking us to swear that this key signer is legit. How
theheck are wwe to know?
And it doesn't copy-paste, blocks all other input while its present on
screen. Being the paranoid old fart I am, I am not about to click ok on
such a mystery message. click on close or cancel changes the main,
yellow kmail warning to click this for details, I click and it then says
no details available. Is there a switch to shut this stuff off? For the time being (till R14.1.0 is out -
possibly end of 2020)
you have the following choices:
1) you can mute/unmute from the KMix slider LED, this should work
fine with PA already
This works but it is inconvenient since you have to fiddle with
controls
2) you can open KMix mixer windod -> Settings
-> Configure global
shortcuts and remap the "toggle mute" keyboard shortcut to some
other key combination. Do not use "XF86AudioMute" key, since this
is normally used by KMilo and therefore may not work
Thanks for this but: it does *not work*.
I just bound it to Win+F1 for testing:
this «Toogle mute» only switches the
master but not the speaker, so it does the same as does Fn-F1
3) you can create a script that calls "dcop
kmix Mixer-1
toggleMasterMute", this will mute/unmute the PA master channel.
You can add an input action tied to a keyboard shortcut to call
this easy.
The script works, nicely
4) if you are on debian-like distro, you could
switch to Slavek's
PTB packages and get the latest R14.1.0-dev packages at regular
intervals. This will bring you the complete fix in a few days
does that mean Ubuntu included?
Would you mind telling me the ppa?
Thanks again
Uwe
PS I signed this message, since you did the same, some people do
complain, though
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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4:24 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
Just a fyi , I had the same problems with a thinkpad x220, T400 and
T410, and stopped using trinity mostly for that reason. its not just
fn+f1 its just all the thinkpad buttons and shortcuts not working in
tde, wether it is for sound, suspend, luminosity . . . for years.
I ll watch this tread and possibly get back to trying tde if/when
this is fixed one day.
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 10:21 AM Dr. Nikolaus Klepp <office(a)klepp.biz> wrote:
Anno domini 2020 Sun, 24 May 10:59:51 -0400
Gene Heskett scripsit:
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On Sunday 24 May 2020 08:11:34 Uwe Brauer wrote:
I have a filter for kmail that handles anoying stuff. Signed mails are not in this group
for me, so it's missing this feature ... but feel free to extend it :)
Nik
Hi thanks for this detailed answer
Thats because the key issuer is some sort of all caps, 3 line swahili we
never heard of before. All of a sudden we're getting popups from
pientry-gnome3 asking us to swear that this key signer is legit. How
theheck are wwe to know?
And it doesn't copy-paste, blocks all other input while its present on
screen. Being the paranoid old fart I am, I am not about to click ok on
such a mystery message. click on close or cancel changes the main,
yellow kmail warning to click this for details, I click and it then says
no details available. Is there a switch to shut this stuff off? For the time being (till R14.1.0 is out -
possibly end of 2020)
you have the following choices:
1) you can mute/unmute from the KMix slider LED, this should work
fine with PA already
This works but it is inconvenient since you have to fiddle with
controls
2) you can open KMix mixer windod -> Settings
-> Configure global
shortcuts and remap the "toggle mute" keyboard shortcut to some
other key combination. Do not use "XF86AudioMute" key, since this
is normally used by KMilo and therefore may not work
Thanks for this but: it does *not work*.
I just bound it to Win+F1 for testing:
this «Toogle mute» only switches the
master but not the speaker, so it does the same as does Fn-F1
3) you can create a script that calls "dcop
kmix Mixer-1
toggleMasterMute", this will mute/unmute the PA master channel.
You can add an input action tied to a keyboard shortcut to call
this easy.
The script works, nicely
4) if you are on debian-like distro, you could
switch to Slavek's
PTB packages and get the latest R14.1.0-dev packages at regular
intervals. This will bring you the complete fix in a few days
does that mean Ubuntu included?
Would you mind telling me the ppa?
Thanks again
Uwe
PS I signed this message, since you did the same, some people do
complain, though
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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New subject: [trinity-users] Thinkpad support
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On 2020/05/25 01:24 AM, william wrote:
Just a fyi , I had the same problems with a thinkpad
x220, T400 and T410, and stopped using trinity mostly for
that reason. its not just fn+f1 its just all the thinkpad buttons and shortcuts not
working in tde, wether it is
for sound, suspend, luminosity . . . for years.
I ll watch this tread and possibly get back to trying tde if/when this is fixed one day.
Hi William,
some questions:
1) did you have kmilo-trinity package installed?
2) did you also have the kmilo-legacy-trinity installed? This contains additional code for
specific notebook,
including Thinkpad
3) if you still had issues after 1) and 2), would you be interested in helping testing? we
don't have a thinkpad to
test, but we could look at the code and you could test/feedback on what works and what
not.
Cheers
Michele
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New subject: [trinity-users] Thinkpad support
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 9:20 PM Michele Calgaro via trinity-users
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On 2020/05/25 01:24 AM, william wrote:
I cant be sure, if its not
installed automatically by following the
instructions from
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Ubuntu_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst…
it was probably not installed.
Just a fyi , I had the same problems with a
thinkpad x220, T400 and T410, and stopped using trinity mostly for
that reason. its not just fn+f1 its just all the thinkpad buttons and shortcuts not
working in tde, wether it is
for sound, suspend, luminosity . . . for years.
I ll watch this tread and possibly get back to trying tde if/when this is fixed one day.
Hi William,
some questions:
1) did you have kmilo-trinity package installed? 2) did you also have the kmilo-legacy-trinity
installed? This contains additional code for specific notebook,
including Thinkpad
reinstalling now, will test tomorrow
3) if you still had issues after 1) and 2), would you
be interested in helping testing? we don't have a thinkpad to
test, but we could look at the code and you could test/feedback on what works and what
not.
sure, trinity is my preferred wm since kde3 ;) if I can help I will
Cheers
Michele
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3) if you still had issues after 1) and 2), would you
be interested in helping testing? we don't have a thinkpad
to test, but we could look at the code and you could test/feedback on what works and what
not.
Fantastic, looking forward for that. I would suggest using Slavke's PSB, they are the
same as R14.0.x, but contains
all the fixes that would go into the next stable release. You just get them progressively
rather than wait for the
lext release ;-)
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
Cheers
Michele
sure, trinity is my preferred wm since kde3 ;) if
I can help I will
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New subject: [trinity-users] Thinkpad support
for now, after a default install from
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Ubuntu_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst…
this kmilo-trinity was not installed
installing it now, will try tomorrow
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3) if you still had issues after 1) and 2), would
you be interested in helping testing? we don't have a thinkpad
to test, but we could look at the code and you could test/feedback on what works and what
not.
Fantastic, looking forward for that. I would suggest using Slavke's PSB, they are the
same as R14.0.x, but contains
all the fixes that would go into the next stable release. You just get them progressively
rather than wait for the
lext release ;-)
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
Cheers
Michele
sure, trinity is my preferred wm since kde3 ;) if
I can help I will
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New subject: [trinity-users] Thinkpad support
ok, so i m back to tde for testing on my old thinkpad T410 !
for now, after a default install from
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Ubuntu_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst…
this kmilo-trinity was not installed
TDE R14 + kmilo-trinity
phisical sound buttons : 100% working
physical mute button : muting works, unmuting says "mute off" but
doesnt unmute, I have to manually right click the sound icon to
unmute.
fn keys for luminosity : 100% not working
fn+f5 for radio : working
fn+f4 suspend : working
fn+f6 : not working
fn+f7 screen switch : not working
fn+f2 screenlock , just disappearing windows, no more available on
alt+tab, but still there, not locking
add5ng th5s
installing it now, will try tomorrow
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Computers are like air conditionners. They work better when you close windows. 3) if you still had issues after 1) and 2), would
you be interested in helping testing? we don't have a thinkpad
to test, but we could look at the code and you could test/feedback on what works and what
not.
Fantastic, looking forward for that. I would suggest using Slavke's PSB, they are the
same as R14.0.x, but contains
all the fixes that would go into the next stable release. You just get them progressively
rather than wait for the
lext release ;-)
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
Cheers
Michele
sure, trinity is my preferred wm since kde3 ;) if
I can help I will
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26 May
3:59 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Thinkpad support
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Hi William, Thierry,
I am replying here to both of you to avoid having two thread on the same topic
See my comments mixed with Williams' ones. Similar consideration applies for
Thierry's comment, I simply won't repeat th
em
TDE R14 + kmilo-trinity phisical sound buttons : 100%
working physical mute button : muting works, unmuting says
"mute off" but doesnt unmute, I have to manually right click the sound icon to
unmute.
The unmute issue is known and actually fixed in R14.1.0 development branch.
For R14.0.x you have to leave with the work around I explained in a previous email on this
thread.
fn keys for luminosity : 100% not working
Functionality was added in R14.0.9-development branch. Works on a few notebooks we
tried, may need extra work here if
you are using that version already
fn+f6 : not working
What is Fn+F6 supposed to
do? I don't have a Thinkpad here :-)
fn+f7 screen switch : not working
What is Fn+F7
supposed to do? I don't have a Thinkpad here :-)
fn+f2 screenlock , just disappearing windows, no more
available on alt+tab, but still there, not locking
I assume Fn+F2 is supposed to
lock your screen right? But it doesn't lock.
A few extra questions for William:
1) what distro and what TDE version are you using (this is important in fact).
2) if you are on a deb-like distro, there is a kmilo-legacy-trinity package (not sure how
things are packaged for .rpm
distros). If you install that, do you see any difference (both in better or worse).
A few points for both of you:
1) could you run the "xev" command and report the key codes you receive when
pressing those key combinations? A list
like "<key pressed> - key code from xev - expeced action" would be great.
This is actually very important. Please do
so for each laptop, so we can see if there is any difference on that
2) I assume from your comments you have PulseAudio installed. If not please let me know
Thanks for the support to all of you. By the way if we want to pas you a patch for
testing, would you be able to build
that locally on your computer? Otherwise Slavek and I will have to find another way for
that, so better we know in
advance :-)
Cheers
Michele
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New subject: [trinity-users] Thinkpad support
fn+f6 : not
working
What is Fn+F6 supposed to do? I don't have a Thinkpad here :-)
fn+f7 screen
switch : not working
What is Fn+F7 supposed to do? I don't have a Thinkpad here
:-) fn+f2
screenlock , just disappearing windows, no more available on alt+tab, but still there, not
locking
I assume Fn+F2 is supposed to lock your screen right? But it doesn't
lock. A few extra questions for William:
1) what distro and what TDE version are you using (this is important in fact).
I
said it in last mail :
TDE R14 + kmilo-trinity
on t410
i ll switch to stable builds if needed ;)
2) if you are on a deb-like distro, there is a
kmilo-legacy-trinity package (not sure how things are packaged for .rpm
distros). If you install that, do you see any difference (both in better or worse).
yes ubuntu, bionic
I plan to switch to legacy soon to see a difference
A few points for both of you:
1) could you run the "xev" command and report the key codes you receive when
pressing those key combinations? A list
like "<key pressed> - key code from xev - expeced action" would be great.
This is actually very important. Please do
so for each laptop, so we can see if there is any difference on that
2) I assume from your comments you have PulseAudio installed. If not please let me know
ok I will
do tell me if there are some useful options to add to the xev command line
Thanks for the support to all of you. By the way if we
want to pas you a patch for testing, would you be able to build
that locally on your computer? Otherwise Slavek and I will have to find another way for
that, so better we know in
advance :-)
thanks to you ! tde is still here, and rocking, mostly thanks to you,
and we need it forever ! . thanks to be here.
Cheers
Michele
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New subject: [trinity-users] Thinkpad support
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Hi William,
thanks for the quick answer.
I said it in last mail : TDE R14 + kmilo-trinity on
t410 i ll switch to stable builds if needed ;)
Sorry I missed that and also for
being pedantic on this, but since there are differences in the code among the
following options, I am going to ask again :-)
1) R14.1.0-dev (basically Slavek's PTB)
2) R14.0.x-dev (basically Slaveks' PSB)
3) R14.0.8 official release.
Lot of kmix fixes are in 1) and some in 2), so it does make a difference in behavior when
you test.
do tell me if there are some useful options to add to
the xev command line
Just run xev from Konsole, then press those buttons and among
the output you should see the key code generated
Cheers
Michele
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7:57 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Thinkpad support
On Tuesday 26 of May 2020 06:23:00 Michele Calgaro via trinity-users wrote:
Hi William,
thanks for the quick answer.
FYI: tdemultimedia packages (kmix) was updated last night, tdeutils (kmilo)
is being built right now - they will be in progress today.
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I said it in last mail : TDE R14 + kmilo-trinity
on t410 i ll switch
to stable builds if needed ;)
Sorry I missed that and also for being pedantic on this, but since there
are differences in the code among the following options, I am going to
ask again :-)
1) R14.1.0-dev (basically Slavek's PTB)
2) R14.0.x-dev (basically Slaveks' PSB)
3) R14.0.8 official release.
Lot of kmix fixes are in 1) and some in 2), so it does make a difference
in behavior when you test.
do tell me if there are some useful options to
add to the xev command
line
Just run xev from Konsole, then press those buttons and among the output
you should see the key code generated
Cheers
Michele
6:58 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Thinkpad support
Anno domini 2020 Mon, 25 May 23:11:28 -0500
william scripsit:
not sure , the icon here shows headphones
and camera, something like
marck uckerberg switch, blocking physically the camera and sound :p on my T6x
it's touchpoint vs. touchpad. Dont't know if it works, I have touchpad disabled in
BIOS.
switching screens, to the
external 1 external, both or basic
integrated laptop screen
cool for multiscreen and professional presentations. Have never seen this work
before, but would have had some sude last weekend :)
I would choose that option, dunno
about the real windows/thinkpad
choice and i dont care ;) It should bring up the screensaver in locked state.
Nik
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fn+f6 : not working
What is Fn+F6 supposed to
do? I don't have a Thinkpad here :-) fn+f7 screen switch : not working
What is Fn+F7
supposed to do? I don't have a Thinkpad here :-) fn+f2 screenlock , just disappearing windows, no more
available on alt+tab, but still there, not locking
I assume Fn+F2 is supposed to
lock your screen right? But it doesn't lock. A few extra
questions for William:
1) what distro and what TDE version are you using (this is important in fact).
I
said it in last mail :
TDE R14 + kmilo-trinity
on t410
i ll switch to stable builds if needed ;)
2) if you are on a deb-like distro, there is a
kmilo-legacy-trinity package (not sure how things are packaged for .rpm
distros). If you install that, do you see any difference (both in better or worse).
yes ubuntu, bionic
I plan to switch to legacy soon to see a difference
A few points for both of you:
1) could you run the "xev" command and report the key codes you receive when
pressing those key combinations? A list
like "<key pressed> - key code from xev - expeced action" would be great.
This is actually very important. Please do
so for each laptop, so we can see if there is any difference on that
2) I assume from your comments you have PulseAudio installed. If not please let me know
ok I will
do tell me if there are some useful options to add to the xev command line
Thanks for the support to all of you. By the way
if we want to pas you a patch for testing, would you be able to build
that locally on your computer? Otherwise Slavek and I will have to find another way for
that, so better we know in
advance :-)
thanks to you ! tde is still here, and rocking, mostly thanks to you,
and we need it forever ! . thanks to be here.
Cheers
Michele
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25 May
5:48 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Thinkpad support
On Monday 25 May 2020 04.17:40 Michele Calgaro via trinity-users wrote:
we don't have a thinkpad to test, but we could
look at the
code and you could test/feedback on what works and what not.
Cheers
Michele
I have quite a lot of Thinkpads here, many older but also relatively newer
models, so if you to try anything...
Thierry
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New subject: [trinity-users] Thinkpad support
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On 2020/05/25 02:48 PM, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Monday 25 May 2020 04.17:40 Michele Calgaro via
trinity-users wrote:
Great, that will surely be a good test bed. As a start, can you let us know:
1) what distro and TDE version you normally use
2) whether Fn keys for volune/brightness or other functions work (or which ones work and
which ones not)
3) if you have kmilo and kmilo-legacy installed. If not please repeat the tests in 2) and
let us know.
Thanks for the support.
Cheers
Michele
we don't have a thinkpad to test, but we
could look at the code and you could test/feedback on what works and
what not.
Cheers Michele
I have quite a lot of Thinkpads here, many older but also relatively newer models, so if
you to try anything...
Thierry
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8:21 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Thinkpad support
On Monday 25 May 2020 08.46:17 Michele Calgaro via trinity-users wrote:
Great, that will surely be a good test bed. As a
start, can you let us
know: 1) what distro and TDE version you normally use
2) whether Fn keys for volune/brightness or other functions work (or which
ones work and which ones not) 3) if you have kmilo and kmilo-legacy
installed. If not please repeat the tests in 2) and let us know.
Thanks for the support.
Cheers
Michele
I will do that but it will take some time...
As to the distribution most of my computers run Debian in some flavour.
Regards,
Thierry
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8:36 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Thinkpad support
On Monday 25 May 2020 08.46:17 Michele Calgaro via trinity-users wrote:
3) if you have kmilo and kmilo-legacy
installed. If not please repeat the tests in 2) and let us know.
Should I install both? Or should kmilo-legacy-trinity be used only on older
models where kmilo-trinity does not work?
Thierry
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New subject: [trinity-users] Thinkpad support
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On 2020/05/25 05:36 PM, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Monday 25 May 2020 08.46:17 Michele Calgaro via
trinity-users wrote:
Debian is good :-)
kmilo adds general support. kmilo-legacy adds support for special laptop, one of which is
the thinkpad.
I suggest you try with kmilo only first. If something doesn't work, try installing
kmilo-legacy and test again.
Cheers
Michele
3) if you have kmilo and kmilo-legacy installed.
If not please repeat the tests in 2) and let us know.
Should I install both? Or should kmilo-legacy-trinity be used only on older models where
kmilo-trinity does not
work?
Thierry
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8:08 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Thinkpad support / Preliminary results
So, I've done some first tests and I can confirm the following:
Thinkpad T440p / Debian 10 / R 14.0.9 (Development) / kmilo-trinity & legacy
HDA Intel PCH
FN - F1/F2/F3: mute on/off is shown, but no effect
Sound 100& / 90% appears but no effect
There are some problems with HDA Intel PCH and HDMI: some time kmix tries to
control HDMI so HDA Intel PCH does not react.
Thinkpad X220 Tablet / Debian 9 / R 14.0.5 (Development)
kmilo-trinity & legacy
Fn-Home / Fn-End work (screen backlight)
Fn- sound keys (play, stop, etc...) don't work
Sound +/- button (physical) work
Mute button mutes but does not unmute. It does print "unmute" on screen, but I
need to use kmixer to get sound back.
Thinkpad T400 / Debian 9 / R 14.0.8 /kmilo-trinity & Legacy
Fn-Home / Fn-End work (screen backlight)
Fn- sound keys (play, stop, etc...) don't work
Sound +/- button (physical) work
Mute button mutes but does not unmute. It does print "unmute" on screen and
kmimx icon shows mute, but I need to use kmixer to get sound back.
I did not test other buttons.
Thierry
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24 May
24 May
4:38 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
On Sunday 24 May 2020 11:21:16 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2020 Sun, 24 May 10:59:51 -0400
Gene Heskett scripsit:
I've no clue how Nik. And the procmail gauntlet I run all this stuff
past finds and quarantines megabytes of virii and phishing stuff a year,
hasn't a clue how to deal with this. Please get rid of the popup, its
not informative in the least, and being an input blocker, it qualifies
as a pain in the ass. kmails one line color highlighted advisory message
is more than enough of a warning.
On Sunday 24 May 2020 08:11:34 Uwe Brauer wrote:
I have a filter for kmail that handles anoying stuff. Signed mails are
not in this group for me, so it's missing this feature ... but feel
free to extend it :)
Nik
Hi thanks for this detailed answer
Thats because the key issuer is some sort of all caps, 3 line
swahili we never heard of before. All of a sudden we're getting
popups from pientry-gnome3 asking us to swear that this key signer
is legit. How theheck are wwe to know?
And it doesn't copy-paste, blocks all other input while its present
on screen. Being the paranoid old fart I am, I am not about to
click ok on such a mystery message. click on close or cancel changes
the main, yellow kmail warning to click this for details, I click
and it then says no details available. Is there a switch to shut
this stuff off? For the time being (till R14.1.0 is out -
possibly end of
2020) you have the following choices:
1) you can mute/unmute from the KMix slider LED, this should
work fine with PA already
This works but it is inconvenient since you have to fiddle with
controls
2) you can open KMix mixer windod -> Settings
-> Configure
global shortcuts and remap the "toggle mute" keyboard
shortcut to some other key combination. Do not use
"XF86AudioMute" key, since this is normally used by KMilo and
therefore may not work
Thanks for this but: it does *not work*.
I just bound it to Win+F1 for testing:
this «Toogle mute» only switches the
master but not the speaker, so it does the same as does Fn-F1
3) you can create a script that calls "dcop
kmix Mixer-1
toggleMasterMute", this will mute/unmute the PA master
channel. You can add an input action tied to a keyboard
shortcut to call this easy.
The script works, nicely
4) if you are on debian-like distro, you could
switch to
Slavek's PTB packages and get the latest R14.1.0-dev packages
at regular intervals. This will bring you the complete fix in
a few days
does that mean Ubuntu included?
Would you mind telling me the ppa?
Thanks again
Uwe
PS I signed this message, since you did the same, some people do
complain, though > Cheers, Gene Heskett
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New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
Anno domini 2020 Sun, 24 May 12:38:38 -0400
Gene Heskett scripsit:
On Sunday 24 May 2020 11:21:16 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
wrote:
Fun part is: why does pientry-gnome3 come up for you? I haven't installed it, maybe
just delete thet thing?
Nik
Anno domini 2020 Sun, 24 May 10:59:51 -0400
Gene Heskett scripsit:
I've no clue how Nik. And the procmail gauntlet I run all this stuff
past finds and quarantines megabytes of virii and phishing stuff a year,
hasn't a clue how to deal with this. Please get rid of the popup, its
not informative in the least, and being an input blocker, it qualifies
as a pain in the ass. kmails one line color highlighted advisory message
is more than enough of a warning.
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett On Sunday 24 May 2020 08:11:34 Uwe Brauer wrote:
I have a filter for kmail that handles anoying stuff. Signed mails are
not in this group for me, so it's missing this feature ... but feel
free to extend it :)
Nik
Hi thanks for this detailed answer
> For the time being (till R14.1.0 is out - possibly end of
> 2020) you have the following choices:
>
> 1) you can mute/unmute from the KMix slider LED, this should
> work fine with PA already
This works but it is inconvenient since you have to fiddle with
controls
> 2) you can open KMix mixer windod -> Settings -> Configure
> global shortcuts and remap the "toggle mute" keyboard
> shortcut to some other key combination. Do not use
> "XF86AudioMute" key, since this is normally used by KMilo and
> therefore may not work
Thanks for this but: it does *not work*.
I just bound it to Win+F1 for testing:
this «Toogle mute» only switches the
master but not the speaker, so it does the same as does Fn-F1
> 3) you can create a script that calls "dcop kmix Mixer-1
> toggleMasterMute", this will mute/unmute the PA master
> channel. You can add an input action tied to a keyboard
> shortcut to call this easy.
The script works, nicely
> 4) if you are on debian-like distro, you could switch to
> Slavek's PTB packages and get the latest R14.1.0-dev packages
> at regular intervals. This will bring you the complete fix in
> a few days
does that mean Ubuntu included?
Would you mind telling me the ppa?
Thanks again
Uwe
PS I signed this message, since you did the same, some people do
complain, though
Thats because the key issuer is some sort of all caps, 3 line
swahili we never heard of before. All of a sudden we're getting
popups from pientry-gnome3 asking us to swear that this key signer
is legit. How theheck are wwe to know?
And it doesn't copy-paste, blocks all other input while its present
on screen. Being the paranoid old fart I am, I am not about to
click ok on such a mystery message. click on close or cancel changes
the main, yellow kmail warning to click this for details, I click
and it then says no details available. Is there a switch to shut
this stuff off?
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
On Sunday 24 May 2020 12:57:38 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Would if I could:
gene@coyote:~$ sudo apt purge pientry-gnome3
[sudo] password for gene:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package pientry-gnome3
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I've no
clue how Nik. And the procmail gauntlet I run all this
stuff past finds and quarantines megabytes of virii and phishing
stuff a year, hasn't a clue how to deal with this. Please get rid
of the popup, its not informative in the least, and being an input
blocker, it qualifies as a pain in the ass. kmails one line color
highlighted advisory message is more than enough of a warning.
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
Fun part is: why does pientry-gnome3 come up for you? I haven't
installed it, maybe just delete thet thing?
5:42 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
Anno domini 2020 Sun, 24 May 13:15:53 -0400
Gene Heskett scripsit:
On Sunday 24 May 2020 12:57:38 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
wrote:
Would if I could:
gene@coyote:~$ sudo apt purge pientry-gnome3
[sudo] password for gene:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package pientry-gnome3
you might try "pinentry-gnome3" :)
I've
no clue how Nik. And the procmail gauntlet I run all this
stuff past finds and quarantines megabytes of virii and phishing
stuff a year, hasn't a clue how to deal with this. Please get rid
of the popup, its not informative in the least, and being an input
blocker, it qualifies as a pain in the ass. kmails one line color
highlighted advisory message is more than enough of a warning.
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
Fun part is: why does pientry-gnome3 come up for you? I haven't
installed it, maybe just delete thet thing?
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
On Sunday 24 May 2020 13:42:37 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2020 Sun, 24 May 13:15:53 -0400
Gene Heskett scripsit:
That removed 4 packages, but I still get a popup from Uwe B's posts, but
apparently only once? And looks slightly diff but same data claims.
Me, goes off scratching what little hair is left.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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On Sunday 24 May 2020 12:57:38 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
wrote:
Would if I could:
gene@coyote:~$ sudo apt purge pientry-gnome3
[sudo] password for gene:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package pientry-gnome3
you might try "pinentry-gnome3" :)
> Cheers, Gene Heskett I've
no clue how Nik. And the procmail gauntlet I run all this
stuff past finds and quarantines megabytes of virii and phishing
stuff a year, hasn't a clue how to deal with this. Please get
rid of the popup, its not informative in the least, and being an
input blocker, it qualifies as a pain in the ass. kmails one
line color highlighted advisory message is more than enough of a
warning.
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
Fun part is: why does pientry-gnome3 come up for you? I haven't
installed it, maybe just delete thet thing?
6:35 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
Anno domini 2020 Sun, 24 May 14:25:45 -0400
Gene Heskett scripsit:
On Sunday 24 May 2020 13:42:37 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
wrote:
Funny. I don't have that popup. Can you check which program it comes from?
Nik
Anno domini 2020 Sun, 24 May 13:15:53 -0400
Gene Heskett scripsit:
That removed 4 packages, but I still get a popup from Uwe B's posts, but
apparently only once? And looks slightly diff but same data claims.
Me, goes off scratching what little hair is left. On Sunday 24 May 2020 12:57:38 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
wrote:
you might try "pinentry-gnome3" :)
> Cheers, Gene Heskett > I've no clue how Nik. And the procmail
gauntlet I run all this
> stuff past finds and quarantines megabytes of virii and phishing
> stuff a year, hasn't a clue how to deal with this. Please get
> rid of the popup, its not informative in the least, and being an
> input blocker, it qualifies as a pain in the ass. kmails one
> line color highlighted advisory message is more than enough of a
> warning.
>
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
Fun part is: why does pientry-gnome3 come up for you? I haven't
installed it, maybe just delete thet thing?
Would if I could:
gene@coyote:~$ sudo apt purge pientry-gnome3
[sudo] password for gene:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package pientry-gnome3
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
On Sunday 24 May 2020 01:35:18 pm Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2020 Sun, 24 May 14:25:45 -0400
Gene Heskett scripsit:
I get that same pop-up. But I get it for basically everyone using signed
mail, not just Uwe. It is annoying. I always just click cancel, but would
be interested in some sort of "just don't check" checkbox.
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On Sunday 24 May 2020 13:42:37 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
wrote:
Funny. I don't have that popup. Can you check which program it comes from? Anno domini 2020 Sun, 24 May 13:15:53 -0400
Gene Heskett scripsit:
That removed 4 packages, but I still get a popup from Uwe B's posts, but
apparently only once? And looks slightly diff but same data claims.
Me, goes off scratching what little hair is left. On Sunday 24 May 2020 12:57:38 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
wrote:
> > I've no clue how Nik. And the procmail gauntlet I run all this
> > stuff past finds and quarantines megabytes of virii and phishing
> > stuff a year, hasn't a clue how to deal with this. Please get
> > rid of the popup, its not informative in the least, and being an
> > input blocker, it qualifies as a pain in the ass. kmails one
> > line color highlighted advisory message is more than enough of a
> > warning.
> >
> > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
> Fun part is: why does pientry-gnome3 come up for you? I haven't
> installed it, maybe just delete thet thing?
Would if I could:
gene@coyote:~$ sudo apt purge pientry-gnome3
[sudo] password for gene:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package pientry-gnome3
you might try "pinentry-gnome3" :)
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
8:26 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
On Sun, 24 May 2020, Michael wrote:
I get that same pop-up. But I get it for basically
everyone using
signed mail, not just Uwe. It is annoying. I always just click
cancel, but would be interested in some sort of "just don't check"
checkbox.
Maybe `ps -ux` from a console after it pops up will lead you to the
culprit. Too, maybe `tree` could help.
Jonesy
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Gene Heskett wrote:
That removed 4 packages, but I still get a popup from
Uwe B's posts, but
apparently only once? And looks slightly diff but same data claims.
Me, goes off scratching what little hair is left.
There is a pinentry-tqt now officially in the pinentry source, but has still
not found it's way in TDE. I hope it will be included in 14.1
I've been using it for the past 2 years - it is very simple and works just
perfectly fine.
The problem IMO is that some packages depend on pinentry-qt that was working
with kde4 and now kde5 and alternative is pinentry-gnome3. It could be that
on ubuntu default is pinentry-gnome3. Not sure what Gene is using - is it
debian or ubuntu.
But this whole thing seems to be off topic here.
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New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
On Sunday 24 May 2020 16:55:03 deloptes wrote:
Gene Heskett wrote:
debian stretch on this machine.
That removed 4 packages, but I still get a popup
from Uwe B's posts,
but apparently only once? And looks slightly diff but same data
claims. Me, goes off scratching what little hair is left.
There is a pinentry-tqt now officially in the pinentry source, but has
still not found it's way in TDE. I hope it will be included in 14.1
I've been using it for the past 2 years - it is very simple and works
just perfectly fine.
The problem IMO is that some packages depend on pinentry-qt that was
working with kde4 and now kde5 and alternative is pinentry-gnome3. It
could be that on ubuntu default is pinentry-gnome3. Not sure what Gene
is using - is it debian or ubuntu.
But this whole thing seems to be off topic here.
No argument there, I basically piped up because someone else did first.
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New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Re: Thinkpad X1: FN F1 silence audio, but cannot be activated via the fn keys
please guys stop spamming this thread that is about a real trinity bug.
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 5:30 PM Gene Heskett <gheskett(a)shentel.net> wrote:
On Sunday 24 May 2020 16:55:03 deloptes wrote:
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Gene Heskett wrote:
debian stretch on this machine.
That removed 4 packages, but I still get a popup
from Uwe B's posts,
but apparently only once? And looks slightly diff but same data
claims. Me, goes off scratching what little hair is left.
There is a pinentry-tqt now officially in the pinentry source, but has
still not found it's way in TDE. I hope it will be included in 14.1
I've been using it for the past 2 years - it is very simple and works
just perfectly fine.
The problem IMO is that some packages depend on pinentry-qt that was
working with kde4 and now kde5 and alternative is pinentry-gnome3. It
could be that on ubuntu default is pinentry-gnome3. Not sure what Gene
is using - is it debian or ubuntu.
But this whole thing seems to be off topic here.
No argument there, I basically piped up because someone else did first.
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