Greetings all; shentel has fired gmail, so that account stopped working, without notice or fanfare about 14:30 local time yesterday.
I have now fixed my fetchmail & related scripts so that I can receive incoming emails from their new server. On port 995
But setting that address in a kmail send account is not working, and kmail won't even show me the alternate sending server as a sending target. A "check what the server supports" times out about a minute later as no contact hasa been made.
I'm fresh out of clues & could use some help.
Like is there an alternate port number to try instead of 25 for smtp?
Thanks.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Thursday 20 August 2015 15:25:50 Gene Heskett wrote:
Greetings all; shentel has fired gmail, so that account stopped working, without notice or fanfare about 14:30 local time yesterday.
I have now fixed my fetchmail & related scripts so that I can receive incoming emails from their new server. On port 995
But setting that address in a kmail send account is not working, and kmail won't even show me the alternate sending server as a sending target. A "check what the server supports" times out about a minute later as no contact hasa been made.
I'm fresh out of clues & could use some help.
Like is there an alternate port number to try instead of 25 for smtp?
Gmail smtp uses: Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587 Port for SSL: 465
Is there no way you could actually ask them what settings they require? Server address and port number?
KMail isn't, so far as I know, designed to scour the web for smtp servers. ;-)
Lisi
Thanks.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Thursday 20 August 2015 10:25:50 Gene Heskett wrote:
Greetings all; shentel has fired gmail, so that account stopped working, without notice or fanfare about 14:30 local time yesterday.
I have now fixed my fetchmail & related scripts so that I can receive incoming emails from their new server. On port 995
But setting that address in a kmail send account is not working, and kmail won't even show me the alternate sending server as a sending target. A "check what the server supports" times out about a minute later as no contact hasa been made.
I'm fresh out of clues & could use some help.
Like is there an alternate port number to try instead of 25 for smtp?
Update, same with port 465. I can ping this server at its FQDN or the shentel alias, getting the same ipv4 address in the responses.
Thanks.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Thursday 20 August 2015 10:55:37 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Thursday 20 August 2015 10:25:50 Gene Heskett wrote:
Greetings all; shentel has fired gmail, so that account stopped working, without notice or fanfare about 14:30 local time yesterday.
I have now fixed my fetchmail & related scripts so that I can receive incoming emails from their new server. On port 995
But setting that address in a kmail send account is not working, and kmail won't even show me the alternate sending server as a sending target. A "check what the server supports" times out about a minute later as no contact hasa been made.
I'm fresh out of clues & could use some help.
Like is there an alternate port number to try instead of 25 for smtp?
Update, same with port 465. I can ping this server at its FQDN or the shentel alias, getting the same ipv4 address in the responses.
Another update, seems the servers name is smtp.shentel.net, with TLS on port 587. So its all working, and I can go back to making alu shavings with CNC code in the garage.
Thanks.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Thursday 20 August 2015 15:55:37 Gene Heskett wrote:
I can ping this server
What server? You haven't named it. I can ping lots of servers, but they are not all smtp serevers. Pop3 servers are not necessarily smtp servers. Have you checked the name of the required smtp server?
Is it not possible to ask them for full login info via say email? You are managing to email us. I too hate waiting for machines, with something plugged to my ear.
You need (egg time): Smtp server name (bear in mind that this may be different from the pop3 server name) port number security info password (which you hopefully have).
Lisi
On Thursday 20 August 2015 16:20:45 Lisi Reisz wrote:
What server? You haven't named it.
You just beat me to it, but it was hung up in the ether! I'm glad that it is now working! How did you find the name?
Lisi
On Thursday 20 August 2015 11:29:25 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 20 August 2015 16:20:45 Lisi Reisz wrote:
What server? You haven't named it.
You just beat me to it, but it was hung up in the ether! I'm glad that it is now working! How did you find the name?
Called them, wasting an hour.
Lisi
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Thursday 20 August 2015 11:20:45 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 20 August 2015 15:55:37 Gene Heskett wrote:
I can ping this server
What server? You haven't named it. I can ping lots of servers, but they are not all smtp serevers. Pop3 servers are not necessarily smtp servers. Have you checked the name of the required smtp server?
Is it not possible to ask them for full login info via say email? You are managing to email us. I too hate waiting for machines, with something plugged to my ear.
You need (egg time): Smtp server name (bear in mind that this may be different from the pop3 server name) port number security info password (which you hopefully have).
Lisi
I think, after another 45 minutes on hold, that I have it sorted, I can at least send myself a msg at the gheskett@shentel.net address. Its address is smtp.shentel.net, port 587, TLS. Very quick response now.
Now it is time to ask kmail, in its next resurection, to marry the smtp account to the folder kmail is currently looking at, by allowing that choice to be set in the individual folders prefs.
Historically, if 2 send accounts have been configured, it randomizes which one it uses, and the "sticky" checkboxes have been just decorators like a boar hog comes equipt with. So having 2 sending choices was far more trouble because the mailing list servers will not accept the alternate address or ID's. And the bounce may take 3+ days to come back! In the meantime the user, me, is fat dumb abd happy thinking the recipient did get the msg.
Hell of a way to run a train.
Thanks Lisi.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Gene Heskett composed on 2015-08-20 10:25 (UTC-0400):
shentel has fired gmail, so that account stopped working, without notice or fanfare about 14:30 local time yesterday.
I have now fixed my fetchmail & related scripts so that I can receive incoming emails from their new server. On port 995
But setting that address in a kmail send account is not working, and kmail won't even show me the alternate sending server as a sending target. A "check what the server supports" times out about a minute later as no contact hasa been made.
I'm fresh out of clues & could use some help.
Like is there an alternate port number to try instead of 25 for smtp?
SeaMonkey suggests 587 as default.
No help page for new server?
On Thursday 20 August 2015 11:01:24 Felix Miata wrote:
Gene Heskett composed on 2015-08-20 10:25 (UTC-0400):
shentel has fired gmail, so that account stopped working, without notice or fanfare about 14:30 local time yesterday.
I have now fixed my fetchmail & related scripts so that I can receive incoming emails from their new server. On port 995
But setting that address in a kmail send account is not working, and kmail won't even show me the alternate sending server as a sending target. A "check what the server supports" times out about a minute later as no contact hasa been made.
I'm fresh out of clues & could use some help.
Like is there an alternate port number to try instead of 25 for smtp?
SeaMonkey suggests 587 as default.
It was, but the FQDN was different too. smtp.shentel.net It seems to be working, and sends in 10% of the time it takes that old, spam overloaded qmail server at the tv station this msg will be sent thru.
The rhetorical question now, is how good is the spam control. That could induce me to do some wholesale resubscribing in a couple weeks.
No help page for new server?
Not until you are logged into the web server & even then the only mention is migrating, with zip instructions as to how. And the phone help is at least 30 minutes of listening to the same 30 seconds worth of pan pipes looping before a human answers.
IMO the chairman of the board should have to call his offices thru that PITA system. I'd bet it will be fixed by this time tomorrow. ;-)
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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