20 Aug
2015
20 Aug
'15
2:25 p.m.
Greetings all;
shentel has fired gmail, so that account stopped working, without notice
or fanfare about 14:30 local time yesterday.
I have now fixed my fetchmail & related scripts so that I can receive
incoming emails from their new server. On port 995
But setting that address in a kmail send account is not working, and
kmail won't even show me the alternate sending server as a sending
target. A "check what the server supports" times out about a minute
later as no contact hasa been made.
I'm fresh out of clues & could use some help.
Like is there an alternate port number to try instead of 25 for smtp?
Thanks.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
20 Aug
20 Aug
2:53 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] shentel has new email server & I can't smtp send
On Thursday 20 August 2015 15:25:50 Gene Heskett wrote:
Greetings all;
shentel has fired gmail, so that account stopped working, without notice
or fanfare about 14:30 local time yesterday.
I have now fixed my fetchmail & related scripts so that I can receive
incoming emails from their new server. On port 995
But setting that address in a kmail send account is not working, and
kmail won't even show me the alternate sending server as a sending
target. A "check what the server supports" times out about a minute
later as no contact hasa been made.
I'm fresh out of clues & could use some help.
Like is there an alternate port number to try instead of 25 for smtp?
Gmail smtp uses:
Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587
Port for SSL: 465
Is there no way you could actually ask them what settings they require?
Server address and port number?
KMail isn't, so far as I know, designed to scour the web for smtp servers. ;-)
Lisi
Thanks.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
2:55 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] shentel has new email server & I can't smtp send
On Thursday 20 August 2015 10:25:50 Gene Heskett wrote:
Greetings all;
shentel has fired gmail, so that account stopped working, without
notice or fanfare about 14:30 local time yesterday.
I have now fixed my fetchmail & related scripts so that I can receive
incoming emails from their new server. On port 995
But setting that address in a kmail send account is not working, and
kmail won't even show me the alternate sending server as a sending
target. A "check what the server supports" times out about a minute
later as no contact hasa been made.
I'm fresh out of clues & could use some help.
Like is there an alternate port number to try instead of 25 for smtp?
Update, same with port 465. I can ping this server at its FQDN or the
shentel alias, getting the same ipv4 address in the responses.
Thanks.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
3:14 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] shentel has new email server & I can't smtp send
On Thursday 20 August 2015 10:55:37 Gene Heskett wrote:
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
On Thursday 20 August 2015 10:25:50 Gene Heskett
wrote:
Another update, seems the servers name is smtp.shentel.net, with TLS on
port 587. So its all working, and I can go back to making alu shavings
with CNC code in the garage.
Greetings all;
shentel has fired gmail, so that account stopped working, without
notice or fanfare about 14:30 local time yesterday.
I have now fixed my fetchmail & related scripts so that I can
receive incoming emails from their new server. On port 995
But setting that address in a kmail send account is not working, and
kmail won't even show me the alternate sending server as a sending
target. A "check what the server supports" times out about a minute
later as no contact hasa been made.
I'm fresh out of clues & could use some help.
Like is there an alternate port number to try instead of 25 for
smtp?
Update, same with port 465. I can ping this server at its FQDN or the
shentel alias, getting the same ipv4 address in the responses. Thanks.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Cheers, Gene Heskett
3:20 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] shentel has new email server & I can't smtp send
On Thursday 20 August 2015 15:55:37 Gene Heskett wrote:
I can ping this server
What server? You haven't named it. I can ping lots of servers, but they are
not all smtp serevers. Pop3 servers are not necessarily smtp servers. Have
you checked the name of the required smtp server?
Is it not possible to ask them for full login info via say email? You are
managing to email us. I too hate waiting for machines, with something
plugged to my ear.
You need (egg time):
Smtp server name (bear in mind that this may be different from the pop3 server
name)
port number
security info
password (which you hopefully have).
Lisi
3:29 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] shentel has new email server & I can't smtp send
On Thursday 20 August 2015 16:20:45 Lisi Reisz wrote:
What server? You haven't named it.
You just beat me to it, but it was hung up in the ether! I'm glad that it is
now working! How did you find the name?
Lisi
3:36 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] shentel has new email server & I can't smtp send
On Thursday 20 August 2015 11:29:25 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 20 August 2015 16:20:45 Lisi Reisz wrote:
Called them, wasting an hour.
What server? You haven't named it.
You just beat me to it, but it was hung up in the ether! I'm glad
that it is now working! How did you find the name?
Lisi
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"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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3:35 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] shentel has new email server & I can't smtp send
On Thursday 20 August 2015 11:20:45 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 20 August 2015 15:55:37 Gene Heskett
wrote:
I think, after another 45 minutes on hold, that I have it sorted, I can
at least send myself a msg at the gheskett(a)shentel.net address. Its
address is smtp.shentel.net, port 587, TLS. Very quick response now.
Now it is time to ask kmail, in its next resurection, to marry the smtp
account to the folder kmail is currently looking at, by allowing that
choice to be set in the individual folders prefs.
Historically, if 2 send accounts have been configured, it randomizes
which one it uses, and the "sticky" checkboxes have been just decorators
like a boar hog comes equipt with. So having 2 sending choices was far
more trouble because the mailing list servers will not accept the
alternate address or ID's. And the bounce may take 3+ days to come
back! In the meantime the user, me, is fat dumb abd happy thinking the
recipient did get the msg.
Hell of a way to run a train.
Thanks Lisi.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
I can ping this server
What server? You haven't named it. I can ping lots of servers, but
they are not all smtp serevers. Pop3 servers are not necessarily smtp
servers. Have you checked the name of the required smtp server?
Is it not possible to ask them for full login info via say email? You
are managing to email us. I too hate waiting for machines, with
something plugged to my ear.
You need (egg time):
Smtp server name (bear in mind that this may be different from the
pop3 server name)
port number
security info
password (which you hopefully have).
Lisi 
3:01 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] shentel has new email server & I can't smtp send
Gene Heskett composed on 2015-08-20 10:25 (UTC-0400):
shentel has fired gmail, so that account stopped
working, without notice
or fanfare about 14:30 local time yesterday.
I have now fixed my fetchmail & related scripts so
that I can receive
incoming emails from their new server. On port 995
But setting that address in a kmail send account is
not working, and
kmail won't even show me the alternate sending server as a sending
target. A "check what the server supports" times out about a minute
later as no contact hasa been made.
I'm fresh out of clues & could use some help.
Like is there an alternate port number to try instead
of 25 for smtp?
SeaMonkey suggests 587 as default.
No help page for new server?
--
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
3:23 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] shentel has new email server & I can't smtp send
On Thursday 20 August 2015 11:01:24 Felix Miata wrote:
Gene Heskett composed on 2015-08-20 10:25 (UTC-0400):
It was, but the FQDN was different too. smtp.shentel.net
It seems to be working, and sends in 10% of the time it takes that old,
spam overloaded qmail server at the tv station this msg will be sent
thru.
The rhetorical question now, is how good is the spam control. That could
induce me to do some wholesale resubscribing in a couple weeks.
shentel has fired gmail, so that account stopped
working, without
notice or fanfare about 14:30 local time yesterday.
I have now fixed my fetchmail & related scripts so that I can
receive incoming emails from their new server. On port 995
But setting that address in a kmail send account is not working, and
kmail won't even show me the alternate sending server as a sending
target. A "check what the server supports" times out about a minute
later as no contact hasa been made.
I'm fresh out of clues & could use some help.
Like is there an alternate port number to try instead of 25 for
smtp?
SeaMonkey suggests 587 as default.
No help page for new server?
Not until you are logged into the web server & even then the only mention
is migrating, with zip instructions as to how. And the phone help is at
least 30 minutes of listening to the same 30 seconds worth of pan pipes
looping before a human answers.
IMO the chairman of the board should have to call his offices thru that
PITA system. I'd bet it will be fixed by this time tomorrow. ;-)
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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