On Sun, 9 Dec 2018, Kate Draven wrote: > On Sunday 09 December 2018, Felmon Davis wrote: >> folks, >> >> the OpenOffice problem is not fixed (menu items invisible except with >> mouse-over). one rabbit-hole at a time. >> >> f. > > Are you running the latest version of Openoffice. > It seems to be a shared bug between Libreoffice (which was resolved) and

so here's the present state: (a) Openoffice updated. no joy. notice also the drop box menus don't have clear borders. (b) had a problems with firefox: black background on toolbar items and drop-down menus only appearing with mouse hover-over; fixed with a work-around Slavek proposed some time ago: "create a symlink for files from /usr/lib/gtk-3.0/3.0.0/theming-engines/ to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-3.0/3.0.0/theming-engines/" (c) so now new issues with Pan. I can't use KDE_Classic since that gives Pan's top toolbar a black background and squeezes all the icons too close together. changing to Plastik fixes some of this though the text runs together and also no distinct borders. SUMMARY: so: text squeezed together in Pan 9.141; no borders on toolbar menus in Pan and Openoffice 4.1.6; menu items only visible by mouse-over in OpenOffice. I figure this requires more deep-dives into GTK but not sure where to start. wonder about further hares to chase. I'd like to use KDE_Classic theme but I am forced to Plastik or Redmond (seems best actually). GTK2 and GTK3 Styles set to "my TDE style". f. -- Felmon Davis ---------------------------------------------------------------------