Hi
I brought up the topic a while ago, and it is really something I am missing much.
Here is the situation.
1. I posses a Thinkpad X1 running Ubuntu 16.04
2. On top of that trinity 4:14.0.6.
3. When I use the gnome desktop shipped by Ubuntu, closing the lid hibernates my laptop.
4. When I try the same under trinity it does not work, also I configured TDEPowersave to do that precisely hibernate when lid is closing.
5. I can hibernate in trinity either pressing FN 4 or using the shutdown menu.
I am really desperate, it must be a bug, did anybody make some progress in resolving this issue?
Regards
Uwe Brauer
On 12/05/2019 03:20 PM, Uwe Brauer wrote:
Hi
I brought up the topic a while ago, and it is really something I am missing much.
Here is the situation.
1. I posses a Thinkpad X1 running Ubuntu 16.04 2. On top of that trinity 4:14.0.6. 3. When I use the gnome desktop shipped by Ubuntu, closing the lid hibernates my laptop. 4. When I try the same under trinity it does not work, also I configured TDEPowersave to do that precisely hibernate when lid is closing. 5. I can hibernate in trinity either pressing FN 4 or using the shutdown menu.
Double check /etc/systemd/login.conf and make sure the following is in its default setting:
#HandleLidSwitch=suspend
(the options are shown commented with the default setting)
If this has been changed, then I could see Gnome/TDE handling the suspend on lid-close differently.
Others will have to chime in on why the TDEPowersave config is being ignored.
On 12/05/2019 03:20 PM, Uwe Brauer wrote:
Double check /etc/systemd/login.conf and make sure the following is in its default setting:
#HandleLidSwitch=suspend
Do you mean hibernate, not suspend.
(the options are shown commented with the default setting)
Here are the entries
HandlePowerKey=poweroff HandleSuspendKey=hibernate HandleHibernateKey=hibernate HandleLidSwitch=hibernate HandleLidSwitchDocked=supend PowerKeyIgnoreInhibited=no SuspendKeyIgnoreInhibited=no HibernateKeyIgnoreInhibited=no
If this setting
Lid closes hibernates in Gnome but *not* in TDE
If this has been changed, then I could see Gnome/TDE handling the suspend on lid-close differently.
So what happens to you in TDE, if you close the lid?
Can you hibernate, close the asked certificate of your mails ?
Thanks,
André
"a" == ajh-valmer ajh.valmer@free.fr writes:
Can you hibernate, close the asked certificate of your mails ?
I read you email various times, and even run the google translator. But I don't understand what you want.
I presume you don't want me to sign my emails? Which know I shall not. But you don't have any suggestion for my problem?
Is this correct?
On Friday 06 December 2019 11:03:12 Uwe Brauer wrote:
"a" == ajh-valmer ajh.valmer@free.fr writes:
Can you hibernate, close the asked certificate of your mails ?
I read you email various times, and even run the google translator. But I don't understand what you want.
I presume you don't want me to sign my emails? Which know I shall not. But you don't have any suggestion for my problem?
Is this correct?
Maybe state your question first in your own language (German?), then try putting the question into English. And please include both versions for us to read.
You may find that there are other people here who can help, as I know that we have many languages here besides English. (And Google translator, and other services like it, lack the experience of a human being.)
Bill
"WMvt" == William Morder via trinity-users trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net writes:
On Friday 06 December 2019 11:03:12 Uwe Brauer wrote:
"a" == ajh-valmer ajh.valmer@free.fr writes:
Can you hibernate, close the asked certificate of your mails ?
I read you email various times, and even run the google translator. But I don't understand what you want.
I presume you don't want me to sign my emails? Which know I shall not. But you don't have any suggestion for my problem?
Is this correct?
Maybe state your question first in your own language (German?), then try putting the question into English. And please include both versions for us to read.
That is supposed to be a joke? I think my original question was clearly stated, correct me if I am wrong.
The reply of user André was
Can you hibernate, close the asked certificate of your mails ?
Now you are a native speaker of sorts so I ask you.
Is this reply written in proper English?
Do you understand what he is trying to say?
I could guess, but I found the reply wired to say the least.
On Saturday 07 December 2019 00:23:56 Uwe Brauer wrote:
"WMvt" == William Morder via trinity-users
trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net writes:
On Friday 06 December 2019 11:03:12 Uwe Brauer wrote:
"a" == ajh-valmer ajh.valmer@free.fr writes:
Can you hibernate, close the asked certificate of your mails ?
I read you email various times, and even run the google translator. But I don't understand what you want.
I presume you don't want me to sign my emails? Which know I shall not. But you don't have any suggestion for my problem?
Is this correct?
Maybe state your question first in your own language (German?), then try putting the question into English. And please include both versions for us to read.
That is supposed to be a joke? I think my original question was clearly stated, correct me if I am wrong.
The reply of user André was
Can you hibernate, close the asked certificate of your mails ?
Now you are a native speaker of sorts so I ask you.
Is this reply written in proper English?
Do you understand what he is trying to say?
I could guess, but I found the reply wired to say the least.
Sorry, but I was unsure *who* asked the original question. And yes, I do understand what he is asking in general, but to me it seemed that some details were getting lost in Google translation.
No, I was not trying to be funny. It was a lament that non-English speakers are generally forced to use English in any online group like this. Yes, I suppose one could say that I am "a native English speaker of sorts"; but will leave the snarkiness for other people.
I, for one, would wish for more languages to be used, if it helps in communication, rather than to suffer through Google translator.
Whatever you may mean by "wired": I choose to ignore, as my intention was only to help.
Bill
andré ajh-valmer ajh.valmer@free.fr writes:
Can you hibernate, close the asked certificate of your mails ?
On Friday 06 December 2019 11:03:12 Uwe Brauer answer :
I read you email various times :
Why "various times" ?
and even run the google translator. But I don't understand what you want. I presume you don't want me to sign my emails? Which know I shall not. But you don't have any suggestion for my problem? Is this correct ?
On Friday 06 December 2019 22:05:35 William Morder via trinity-users wrote: Maybe state your question first in your own language (German?), then try putting the question into English. And please include both versions for us to read. You may find that there are other people here who can help, as I know that we have many languages here besides English. (And Google translator, and other services like it, lack the experience of a human being.) Bill :
+1
Can you hibernate, close the asked certificate of your mails ?
My question in a different english was : "Your mails request a certificate by an opening window, and we have to accept or refuse it, that is annoying".
My message has been understood, despite my english not on the top and not from Oxford University, now your mails don't cause anymore this unnecessary opening window...
André
PS : this list give me the opportunity to improve my english, and I love it.
On Saturday 07 December 2019 06:03:45 ajh-valmer wrote:
andré ajh-valmer ajh.valmer@free.fr writes:
Can you hibernate, close the asked certificate of your mails ?
On Friday 06 December 2019 11:03:12 Uwe Brauer answer :
I read you email various times :
Why "various times" ?
and even run the google translator. But I don't understand what you want. I presume you don't want me to sign my emails? Which know I shall not. But you don't have any suggestion for my problem? Is this correct ?
On Friday 06 December 2019 22:05:35 William Morder via trinity-users wrote: Maybe state your question first in your own language (German?), then try putting the question into English. And please include both versions for us to read. You may find that there are other people here who can help, as I know that we have many languages here besides English. (And Google translator, and other services like it, lack the experience of a human being.) Bill :
+1
Can you hibernate, close the asked certificate of your mails ?
My question in a different english was : "Your mails request a certificate by an opening window, and we have to accept or refuse it, that is annoying".
My message has been understood, despite my english not on the top and not from Oxford University, now your mails don't cause anymore this unnecessary opening window...
André
PS : this list give me the opportunity to improve my english, and I love it.
Yes, thank you, that was my wish as well; to communicate, not to offend others, nor to get into an argument. The world has enough problems, without our contributing more.
I personally do not like to rely on Google and other machine translators. I believe that all this computer stuff is just a passing fad.
;-)
Bill
On 12/06/2019 08:14 AM, Uwe Brauer wrote:
Lid closes hibernates in Gnome but *not* in TDE
If this has been changed, then I could see Gnome/TDE handling the suspend on lid-close differently.
So what happens to you in TDE, if you close the lid?
The computer suspends to RAM and computer enters low-power state where RAM is kept warm and the lid-open interrupts is monitored, but little else. (actually KDE3 at the moment).
The only non-default entry in my login.conf is the power-button, because I like being able to press the power-button and leave the lit open and still suspend to RAM, e.g.
$ noc /etc/systemd/logind.conf [Login] HandlePowerKey=suspend
The 'hibernate' writes to disk and then enters a poweroff state but leaves the filesystems with a flag set to show they are still in use. I have never liked hibernate on dual-boot systems just for that reason.
For a better discussion on the differences, see:
[Power management/Suspend and hibernate] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management/Suspend_and_hibernate
"DCR" == David C Rankin drankinatty-hPWwJ4didUaz5mO2DORSKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org writes:
On 12/06/2019 08:14 AM, Uwe Brauer wrote:
Lid closes hibernates in Gnome but *not* in TDE
If this has been changed, then I could see Gnome/TDE handling the suspend on lid-close differently.
So what happens to you in TDE, if you close the lid?
The computer suspends to RAM and computer enters low-power state where RAM is kept warm and the lid-open interrupts is monitored, but little else. (actually KDE3 at the moment).
The only non-default entry in my login.conf is the power-button, because I like being able to press the power-button and leave the lit open and still suspend to RAM, e.g.
$ noc /etc/systemd/logind.conf [Login] HandlePowerKey=suspend
The 'hibernate' writes to disk and then enters a poweroff state but leaves the filesystems with a flag set to show they are still in use. I have never liked hibernate on dual-boot systems just for that reason.
Thanks. But I think that is a misunderstanding. I know what suspend and hibernate are doing. What I was trying to ask is whether it works for you in the setting indicated.
And if I understand you correctly either suspend or hibernate work for you with the setting indicated under TDE. Is this correct?
May I ask you which laptop you use, and which linux distribution and which precise TDE version?
So the conclusion is there is NO BUG in TDE, but a problem with certain hardware or linux distributions?
The odd thing for me is: hibernate and suspend work for me, with the default gnome desktop but no with TDE, so that is why I think it might be a bug.
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