Hello everyone :-),
Naive question, but how can I register TWin?
I have openSUSE Leap 15.3 with default XFCE installed. Now I installed TWin (from Trinity repo), all good, but when I logout from XFCE and try to select another window manager I only see XFCE and IceWM as WM options. Nothing more.
So how to add Twin as well, so I would see 3 options for selection?
Thank you in advance for help.
Cheers,
On Tuesday 14 June 2022 12:47:46 pm Maciej Pilichowski wrote:
Hello everyone :-),
Naive question, but how can I register TWin?
I have openSUSE Leap 15.3 with default XFCE installed. Now I installed TWin (from Trinity repo), all good, but when I logout from XFCE and try to select another window manager I only see XFCE and IceWM as WM options. Nothing more.
So how to add Twin as well, so I would see 3 options for selection?
Hi Maciej,
Welcome to the TDE users' list!
I'm a bit confused, did you install the TDE desktop?
Someone can correct me, but since Xfce is a desktop, I'm assuming what you wrote means you're trying to launch the TDE desktop after logging out? (Just installing TWin won’t do that.)
I'm more Debian, but here's the OpenSUSE TDE installation instructions:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/OpenSUSE_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Ins...
It looks like if you go through all 6 steps you should have a working TDE box. If I’ve misunderstood your question and you only need to change the default display manager, then see step “6. (Optional) Sets TDM as the default display manager”
HTH, if not, someone else will chime in.
Best, Michael
On Tue, 14 Jun 2022 19:47:46 +0200 Maciej Pilichowski bantu@poczta.fm wrote:
Hello everyone :-),
Naive question, but how can I register TWin?
I have openSUSE Leap 15.3 with default XFCE installed. Now I installed TWin (from Trinity repo), all good, but when I logout from XFCE and try to select another window manager I only see XFCE and IceWM as WM options. Nothing more.
So how to add Twin as well, so I would see 3 options for selection?
Like Micheal, I'm a bit puzzled. You seem to be saying that you installed twin alone, without the rest of TDE. That's like installing xfwm alone, without the rest of XFCE.
If that's what you did, the issue is that it isn't really intended to work that way. TDE/twin likely isn't showing up in your list because there's no default session file (because that's in a different package).
Try installing all of tdebase—that should cause the session file to be pulled in, and then it should show up in the list presented by your display manager.
E. Liddell
Hello,
On Tuesday 14 June 2022 23:26:23 E. Liddell wrote:
Like Micheal, I'm a bit puzzled. You seem to be saying that you installed twin alone, without the rest of TDE. That's like installing xfwm alone, without the rest of XFCE.
If that's what you did, the issue is that it isn't really intended to work that way. TDE/twin likely isn't showing up in your list because there's no default session file (because that's in a different package).
Sorry guys, I was trying to be too smart. I simply noticed tdebase contains some more packages than I wanted so I picked up the essentials one -- TWin, Kicker, KmServer, and so on.
Probably there is one with benign name which does the trick, because after your replies (thank you once again), I installed entire tdebase meta package and this time it kicked in properly.
So thank you and sorry for making noise.
Cheers,
On Wednesday 15 June 2022 09:47:56 am Maciej Pilichowski wrote:
Sorry guys, I was trying to be too smart. I simply noticed tdebase contains some more packages than I wanted so I picked up the essentials one -- TWin, Kicker, KmServer, and so on.
Probably there is one with benign name which does the trick, because after your replies (thank you once again), I installed entire tdebase meta package and this time it kicked in properly.
So thank you and sorry for making noise.
Your welcome and you had a valid question, no apologies needed. Quite frankly, it’s vary rare if anyone on the list gets grumpy at any question.
There are ways to install much less of the TDE desktop than the whole thing. Well, the meta-package actually doesn’t install everything either. I know many of the non-essential apps like games, tea timers, and such aren’t.
The openSUSE people should be able to point you in that direction if you want to try again for a lighter install.
Again, welcome to the list.
Best, Michael
On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 12:55:28 -0500 Michael mb_trinity_desktop@inet-design.com wrote:
On Wednesday 15 June 2022 09:47:56 am Maciej Pilichowski wrote:
Sorry guys, I was trying to be too smart. I simply noticed tdebase contains some more packages than I wanted so I picked up the essentials one -- TWin, Kicker, KmServer, and so on.
Probably there is one with benign name which does the trick, because after your replies (thank you once again), I installed entire tdebase meta package and this time it kicked in properly.
So thank you and sorry for making noise.
Your welcome and you had a valid question, no apologies needed. Quite frankly, it’s vary rare if anyone on the list gets grumpy at any question.
There are ways to install much less of the TDE desktop than the whole thing. Well, the meta-package actually doesn’t install everything either. I know many of the non-essential apps like games, tea timers, and such aren’t.
The openSUSE people should be able to point you in that direction if you want to try again for a lighter install.
Unless openSUSE has named the packages in a nonstandard way, tdebase pretty much is the minimal set—it's the core desktop components plus tdm, konqueror, kate, ksysguard, and konsole. Those aren't all absolutely essential, but most people will want the functionality, if not the exact program.
For what it's worth, my system identifies the session file as being part of the tdebase-starttde package (note that I'm on Gentoo, though).
E. Liddell
Hello,
On Wednesday 15 June 2022 19:55:28 Michael wrote:
The openSUSE people should be able to point you in that direction if you want to try again for a lighter install.
Again, welcome to the list.
I think having now working TDE I simply uninstall few not needed packages.
Many thanks for warm welcome :-).
On Wednesday 15 June 2022 23:29:44 E. Liddell wrote:
Unless openSUSE has named the packages in a nonstandard way, tdebase pretty much is the minimal set—it's the core desktop components plus tdm, konqueror, kate, ksysguard, and konsole. Those aren't all absolutely essential, but most people will want the functionality, if not the exact program.
I see, as I said I wanted having only essentials and I was trying to be too smart. Those few packages maybe not matter on disks, but I try to keep really what I need, the first reason that comes to my head that package updater won't alarm me about 100 packages, but only 90 ;-).
For what it's worth, my system identifies the session file as being part of the tdebase-starttde package (note that I'm on Gentoo, though).
My error was around tdm -- I assumed it is Display Manager selector, not DM itself (despite, now, obvious name). Anyway, everything now works great and I feel like at home.
Cheers,
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E. Liddell -
Maciej Pilichowski -
Michael