With TDE: R14.0.4 Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
ALT-TAB brings up the task switcher and continuing to hold down ALT while tapping TAB moves the selection down the list.
SHIFT-ALT-TAB moves the selection up the list.
With TDE: R14.0.5 MX-18
ALT-TAB works. SHIFT-ALT-TAB doesn’t, it moves the selection down the list instead of up.
Anyone else having issues with SHIFT-ALT-TAB on R14.0.5?
Best, Michael
On 01/17/2019 04:08 PM, Michael wrote:
MX-18
ALT-TAB works. SHIFT-ALT-TAB doesn’t, it moves the selection down the list instead of up.
Anyone else having issues with SHIFT-ALT-TAB on R14.0.5?
I've had that issue ever since I switched to MX (and Antix on one machine). I attribute it to MX/Antix because that's when it started. Haven't got around to tracking down the solution, but I'd like to find it.
On Thursday 17 January 2019 16:21:23 Dan Youngquist wrote:
On 01/17/2019 04:08 PM, Michael wrote:
MX-18
ALT-TAB works. SHIFT-ALT-TAB doesn’t, it moves the selection down the list instead of up.
Anyone else having issues with SHIFT-ALT-TAB on R14.0.5?
I've had that issue ever since I switched to MX (and Antix on one machine). I attribute it to MX/Antix because that's when it started. Haven't got around to tracking down the solution, but I'd like to find it.
AntiX has a lot to recommend it: small, clean, fast, systemd-free ... However, it did a few things I didn't like, too. I noticed that it changed permissions in my home folder. I've never had a distro do *that* before.
Not saying that it has to do with permissions (which seems unlikely), but I would guess that you need to go into Trinity Control Center / Regional & Accessibility / Keyboard Shortcuts and check your settings there. I had something similar happen when I changed from Kubuntu to Debian; not quite what you described, but my keyboard shortcuts had been changed. After a little futzing round, I got everything to work the same as before.
I'm just guessing that the MX/AntiX system may be doing something like that for new installations.
Bill
On 01/17/2019 05:39 PM, William Morder wrote:
would guess that you need to go into Trinity Control Center / Regional & Accessibility / Keyboard Shortcuts and check your settings there.
It correctly shows Alt-Shift-Tab; it just doesn't work.
If I try to manually set the shortcut, as soon as I press Alt, then Shift, "Alt+ISO_Next_Group" appears and immediately gets set as the shortcut. If I press Shift first, then Alt, "Shift+Shift_L" appears and is immediately set as the shortcut. There's no opportunity to press Tab.
Something strange is going on here with key mapping, but I'm not going to be able to figure it out tonight.
On Thursday 17 January 2019 18:23:10 Dan Youngquist wrote:
On 01/17/2019 05:39 PM, William Morder wrote:
would guess that you need to go into Trinity Control Center / Regional & Accessibility / Keyboard Shortcuts and check your settings there.
It correctly shows Alt-Shift-Tab; it just doesn't work.
If I try to manually set the shortcut, as soon as I press Alt, then Shift, "Alt+ISO_Next_Group" appears and immediately gets set as the shortcut. If I press Shift first, then Alt, "Shift+Shift_L" appears and is immediately set as the shortcut. There's no opportunity to press Tab.
Something strange is going on here with key mapping, but I'm not going to be able to figure it out tonight.
Did you remember to save your scheme? I generally give the scheme a new name, and backup my old scheme with a name, too; then copy the settings to Current Scheme and save that.
Somewhere, I believe, there is a config file with all your settings. If I have time and inclination, I will search for it in my own system.
Bill
On 01/17/2019 09:38 PM, William Morder wrote:
Did you remember to save your scheme?
No need; I normally just use 'TDE Default for 3 Modifier Keys'.
P.S. Use multi-key mode. It's in the dialog.
Makes no difference; the ISO_Next_Group key binding is still there.
Today I confirmed that the problem exists in XFCE also, and when logged in as root. And XFCE has the keyboard shortcut set correctly, same as TDE. So apparently my suspicion is correct that it's an MX/Antix problem, not a TDE problem.
On Friday 18 January 2019 09:45:16 am Dan Youngquist wrote:
On 01/17/2019 09:38 PM, William Morder wrote:
Did you remember to save your scheme?
No need; I normally just use 'TDE Default for 3 Modifier Keys'.
P.S. Use multi-key mode. It's in the dialog.
Makes no difference; the ISO_Next_Group key binding is still there.
Today I confirmed that the problem exists in XFCE also, and when logged in as root. And XFCE has the keyboard shortcut set correctly, same as TDE. So apparently my suspicion is correct that it's an MX/Antix problem, not a TDE problem.
I've got a 2 day disk check running, so not able to do this yet (as it says it needs a reboot), but found what should be the solution:
https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=44550
I'll do the followup bug report in MX after I walk through it myself.
Best, Michael
On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 11:31:31 -0600 Michael mb_trinity_desktop@inet-design.com wrote:
On Friday 18 January 2019 09:45:16 am Dan Youngquist wrote:
On 01/17/2019 09:38 PM, William Morder wrote:
Did you remember to save your scheme?
No need; I normally just use 'TDE Default for 3 Modifier Keys'.
P.S. Use multi-key mode. It's in the dialog.
Makes no difference; the ISO_Next_Group key binding is still there.
Today I confirmed that the problem exists in XFCE also, and when logged in as root. And XFCE has the keyboard shortcut set correctly, same as TDE. So apparently my suspicion is correct that it's an MX/Antix problem, not a TDE problem.
I've got a 2 day disk check running, so not able to do this yet (as it says it needs a reboot), but found what should be the solution:
https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=44550
I'll do the followup bug report in MX after I walk through it myself.
No need to restart, just do 'xkbmap -option'.
On 01/19/2019 09:31 AM, Michael wrote:
On 01/19/2019 09:51 AM, Nick Koretsky wrote:
No need to restart, just do 'xkbmap -option'.
Very cool, it works!
Except that, in Antix at least, 'xkbmap' needs to be 'setxkbmap'.
Thanks very much to both of you.
On Thursday 17 January 2019 18:23:10 Dan Youngquist wrote:
On 01/17/2019 05:39 PM, William Morder wrote:
would guess that you need to go into Trinity Control Center / Regional & Accessibility / Keyboard Shortcuts and check your settings there.
It correctly shows Alt-Shift-Tab; it just doesn't work.
If I try to manually set the shortcut, as soon as I press Alt, then Shift, "Alt+ISO_Next_Group" appears and immediately gets set as the shortcut. If I press Shift first, then Alt, "Shift+Shift_L" appears and is immediately set as the shortcut. There's no opportunity to press Tab.
P.S. Use multi-key mode. It's in the dialog.
Something strange is going on here with key mapping, but I'm not going to be able to figure it out tonight.
You might also have some kind of duplication of that shortcut.
Bill
Okay, so not a TDE thing! Good to know. The MX is currently a complete clean install as I haven't migrated anything over to it yet (just fyi). I'll make backups and futz with the schemes and also search/ask on the MX forum. Ah, yeah, dumb me, I'll check the "XFCE desktop" MX installs by default too, which I should have done before posting :(
When I get a definitive outcome I'll post back here.
Best, Michael
On Friday 18 January 2019 01.08:50 Michael wrote:
With TDE: R14.0.5 MX-18
ALT-TAB works. SHIFT-ALT-TAB doesn’t, it moves the selection down the list instead of up.
Anyone else having issues with SHIFT-ALT-TAB on R14.0.5?
Best, Michael
Debian Stretch here: SHIFT-ALT-RAB is working as expected.
Thierry
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