Hi All,
I'm french (nobody's perfect), living in Peru and using usually a Spanish keyboard, with a french "writing" system. For historical reasons, the marking of my keyboard is U.S., and this is a chance in the case of this bug, because, at the time of the "login" (with Gnome, see previous post), the system interprets the keyboard as U.S.!
Network configuration does not work. I tried kcmshell [kdeinit] kcm_knetworkconfmodule in a super-user console, but after validation, a dialog asking to wait opened, and the situation was infinitly fixed. Now, I have no network. Hence the question: how does one configure the network from Trinity, a console and / or from Gnome with Fedora? Note that I did not re-boot after this problem, so, I dont know if the network configuration is definitively lost.
More general problems: At the time selinux was still anabled on the targeted system, I tryed some "sudo" commands, and it did not work because "user is not sudoers". How a user that comes from WindOverDose or did never study the use of selinux can react to this message? I guess each of you, dear ADVANCED users, had been confronted to a ALMOST functional system, at the "boot" of a 2.6.33.x kernel (ie). Investigating, you discovered that it was because the kernel can not insert modules of a system 2.6.26.x (ie)... I feel that this is the case Grub2! I guess Grub2 loads a kernel (the one of his host system probably) then made his small business to finally boot which corresponds to the user's selection. Booting without removing the old kernel. I suppose that because Grub2 only starts the host system it is installed in! It is then ridiculous, when installing a distribution, to scan all disks and all partitions, for offering to start (linux) systems that they contain! Imagine the frustration of a user who can not re-boot the system he use everyday! Luckily, I boot my everyday Oss 11.1 system from a CD. There is a more general congruency Linux problem: why the shell does not interpret "media:/whatever/whatever"? More generaly, I have some doubts: is there a developer that use the systems on which he works for everyday?
Please, note that until here, (I think that) the testing on a virtual system does not help developpers to see these problems...
I have not managed to transfer all my mails from KMail 3.5.10 release 21.13.1 to TDE 3.5.13. Could someone help, please?
Did I dream ??? Konqueror being open on "a hard disk / partition", that is to say, URL display beginning with "media:", the hidden directory ".Mail" was not reflected in the list while the directories named ".m*" (as ".mozilla", for example), appeared! This was not the case for a Konqueror window with URL displaying "/home/user", for example.
There were true questions in this post: - how does one configure the network from Trinity, a console and / or from Gnome with Fedora? - Is there someone that could help me transfering mails from KMail 3.5.10 release 21.13.1 to KMail TDE 3.5.13?
Thank you. Cheers, Patrick
On Friday 14 December 2012 15.47:19 Patrick Serru wrote:
Hi All,
(...)
There were true questions in this post:
- how does one configure the network from Trinity, a console and / or from
Gnome with Fedora?
- Is there someone that could help me transfering mails from KMail 3.5.10
release 21.13.1 to KMail TDE 3.5.13?
Thank you. Cheers,Patrick
Hi,
No idea for the fist question as I never used Fedora
To transfer my mails, I usually do the following:
- copy ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail to ~/.tde/share/apps/kmail - delete all *.index and *.ids files in kmail ~/.tde/share/apps//mail - copy ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc to ~/.tde/share/apps/kabc - copy ~/.kde/share/confiog/kmailrc to ~/.tde/share/config/kmailrc
At least on time I did have to re-enter my email settings (but I think I was copying from TDE to KDE).
Note that when I do this, I have two separate systems, so I can always go back to look for my information.
Regards,
Thierry
Le vendredi 14 décembre 2012, Thierry de Coulon a écrit :
On Friday 14 December 2012 15.47:19 Patrick Serru wrote:
Hi All,(...)
There were true questions in this post:
- how does one configure the network from Trinity, a console and / or
from Gnome with Fedora?
- Is there someone that could help me transfering mails from KMail
3.5.10 release 21.13.1 to KMail TDE 3.5.13?
Thank you. Cheers,Patrick
Hi,
No idea for the fist question as I never used Fedora
To transfer my mails, I usually do the following:
- copy ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail to ~/.tde/share/apps/kmail
- delete all *.index and *.ids files in kmail ~/.tde/share/apps//mail
- copy ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc to ~/.tde/share/apps/kabc
- copy ~/.kde/share/confiog/kmailrc to ~/.tde/share/config/kmailrc
At least on time I did have to re-enter my email settings (but I think I was copying from TDE to KDE).
Note that when I do this, I have two separate systems, so I can always go back to look for my information.
Regards,
Thierry
--------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi All, Hi Thierry
I made a copy of the mails folder (~/.Mail, I dont know if it is the default name !) and the ~/.kde/ from my current Kde USER repertory (the Oss 11.1 sys.), into the targeted F17 Trinity system, mounted in /linux/F17_target/ . Then:
cd /linux/F17_target/home/USER/ cp -R ./.kde/share/apps/kmail/* ./.trinity/share/apps/kmail rm ./.Mail/.*.index.ids rm ./.Mail/.*.index cp -R ./.kde/share/apps/kabc/* ./.trinity/share/apps/kabc cp ./.kde/share/config/kmailrc ./.trinity/share/config/kmailrc
Once F17 Trinity started, it was quit OK, excepted that KMail did not ask for the oppenning of KWallet. I will copy the KWallet settings, too, and for any application other than KMail need!
I thought I could send this mail from "there". Thank you very much, Thierry.
Patrick
Le 14/12/2012 15:47, Patrick Serru a écrit :
Hi All, I'm french (nobody's perfect), living in Peru and using usually aSpanish keyboard, with a french "writing" system. For historical reasons, the marking of my keyboard is U.S., and this is a chance in the case of this bug, because, at the time of the "login" (with Gnome, see previous post), the system interprets the keyboard as U.S.!
Network configuration does not work. I triedkcmshell [kdeinit] kcm_knetworkconfmodule in a super-user console, but after validation, a dialog asking to wait opened, and the situation was infinitly fixed. Now, I have no network. Hence the question: how does one configure the network from Trinity, a console and / or from Gnome with Fedora? Note that I did not re-boot after this problem, so, I dont know if the network configuration is definitively lost.
Hello, newer distributions such as Fedora use NetworkManager 9.x , which is not supported yet by TDE. You must use tools outside TDE to configure network. I personnaly use "nm-applet" from Gnome,it integrates well in TDE. There is also the "system-config-network" utility, from the command line.
More general problems: At the time selinux was still anabled on the targeted system, I tryedsome "sudo" commands, and it did not work because "user is not sudoers". How a user that comes from WindOverDose or did never study the use of selinux can react to this message?
This message is not related to Selinux. Sudo is not aumatically configured in Fedora. If you want to use it, you must configure it first. But it is not required. In Fedora, when you run an application requiring root access, it just prompts for root password.
Francois
Le 14/12/2012 15:47, Patrick Serru a écrit :
Hi All, I'm french (nobody's perfect), living in Peru and using usually aSpanish keyboard, with a french "writing" system. For historical reasons, the marking of my keyboard is U.S., and this is a chance in the case of this bug, because, at the time of the "login" (with Gnome, see previous post), the system interprets the keyboard as U.S.!
Network configuration does not work. I triedkcmshell [kdeinit] kcm_knetworkconfmodule in a super-user console, but after validation, a dialog asking to wait opened, and the situation was infinitly fixed. Now, I have no network. Hence the question: how does one configure the network from Trinity, a console and / or from Gnome with Fedora? Note that I did not re-boot after this problem, so, I dont know if the network configuration is definitively lost.
Hello, newer distributions such as Fedora use NetworkManager 9.x , which is not supported yet by TDE. You must use tools outside TDE to configure network. I personnaly use "nm-applet" from Gnome,it integrates well in TDE. There is also the "system-config-network" utility, from the command line.
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I should add that R14 has full support for NetworkManager 9.x+; only 3.5.13.x and below lack the requisite libraries. We need to look into how to get R14 out the door soon (i.e. which critical bugs remain?) before more users start having bad experiences such as this.
Tim
Le vendredi 14 décembre 2012, Timothy Pearson a écrit :
Le 14/12/2012 15:47, Patrick Serru a écrit :
Hi All, ... Network configuration does not work. I triedkcmshell [kdeinit] kcm_knetworkconfmodule in a super-user console, but after validation, a dialog asking to wait opened, and the situation was infinitly fixed. Now, I have no network. Hence the question: how does one configure the network from Trinity, a console and / or from Gnome with Fedora? Note that I did not re-boot after this problem, so, I dont know if the network configuration is definitively lost.
Hello, newer distributions such as Fedora use NetworkManager 9.x , which is not supported yet by TDE. You must use tools outside TDE to configure network. I personnaly use "nm-applet" from Gnome,it integrates well in TDE. There is also the "system-config-network" utility, from the command line.
<snip>
I should add that R14 has full support for NetworkManager 9.x+; only 3.5.13.x and below lack the requisite libraries. We need to look into how to get R14 out the door soon (i.e. which critical bugs remain?) before more users start having bad experiences such as this.
Tim
--------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi All,
The bug that I described was a "smart" bug, because the windows closed well. As I said, I have not restarted. Today I did, and once restarted, the setting has been taken into account and the network was functional. If it can help...
Thank François and Tim. Cheers, Patrick
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