16 Nov
2011
16 Nov
'11
11:28 a.m.
I am still having problems getting KMail to use my data from before my
desktop died.
I have now successfully copied an intact copy of the Mail folder
~/Mail) from a backup to my present setup. I have checked, and my
folders and emails at least are there.
But KMail won't use them/doesn't see them. This is the method I have
always used before, that has always worked before. I am desperate to
be able to use KMail again, but daren't just set it up because I am
then going to be faced with losing everything that I do now, if I ever
succeed in restoring the stuff from the past.
I thought of purging and reinstalling KMail and starting again, but
that would remove 383 packages, and I am somewhat chary therefore of
doing it.
~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail in the new set-up has:
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/drafts
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.drafts.index
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.drafts.index.ids
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/inbox
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.inbox.index
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.inbox.index.ids
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/outbox
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.outbox.index
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.outbox.index.ids
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/sent-mail
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.sent-mail.index
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.sent-mail.index.ids
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/templates
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.templates.index
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.templates.index.ids
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/trash
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.trash.index
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.trash.index.ids
There is now no error message about indices, but it looks to me as
though this directory is at the root of the problem.
I have renamed it and started KMail, and it just regenerates it the
same, and still doesn't use the available data, but kmail gives:
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/autosave
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/autosave.index.ids
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/$name%40gmail.com:%40pop.gmail.com:995
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/$name%40googlemail.com:%40pop.gmail.com:995
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/$name:%40pop.gmail.com:995
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/dimap
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/$name%40gmail.com:%40pop.gmail.com:995
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/$name%40googlemail.com:%40pop.gmail.com:995
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/elizabeth.reisz:%40pop.gmail.com:995
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/$name%40googlemail.com:%40pop.gmail.com:995
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/imap
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/kmmainwin.rc
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/lisi%40$name.myzen.co.uk:%40mailhost.zen.co.uk:110
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/lisi.reisz%40gmail.com:%40pop.gmail.com:995
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/lisi.reisz:%40pop.gmail.com:995
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/lisi.t155:%40pop.gmail.com:995
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/lock
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail.old
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/search
Help!! I really need my KMail stuff! How do I persuade KMail to use it?
Lisi
16 Nov
16 Nov
12:05 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] KMail
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 11:28:08 Lisi Reisz wrote:
I am still having problems getting KMail to use my
data from before my
desktop died.
<SNIP>
~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail in the new set-up has:
<SNIP>
Assuming you're on trinity, then I believe it has to be under .trinity,
not .kde. I just made .trinity a symlink to .kde.
HTH
Neil Youngman
12:09 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] KMail
Le 16/11/2011 12:28, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
Help!! I really need my KMail stuff! How do I
persuade KMail to use it?
If you're using the latest trinity version of kmail, I think you must
copy your configuration from kde3 to trinity:
$ cp -afv ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail ~/.trinity/share/apps/
$ cp -afv ~/.kde/share/config/kmail* ~/.trinity/share/config/
And you have to replace '$HOME/.kde' by '$HOME/.trinity' in
/home/lisi/.trinity/share/config/kmailrc:
$ sed 's|HOME/.kde|HOME/.trinity|g' -i ~/.trinity/share/config/kmailrc
Alternatively, just copy the whole folder:
$ cp -av /home/lisi/.kde/* /home/lisi/.trinity/
(but it's going to erase new settings in trinity and you'll have to change
some other files)
(Another solution is to use a symbolic link:
$ rm -rf ~/.trinity
$ ln -sv .kde ~/.trinity
In this case, you'll have nothing to change.)
And if you fear mistakes (you should), don't forget backups:
$ cp -av /home/lisi/.kde /home/lisi/.kde.back
$ cp -av /home/lisi/.trinity /home/lisi/.trinity.back
Good luck.
--
Laurent Dard
12:52 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] KMail
Mea culpa - apology at the end. :-(
On 16 November 2011 12:09, Laurent Dard <f.couperin(a)online.fr> wrote:
Le 16/11/2011 12:28, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
I feel mortified at my own stupidity. I came back to the computer
because I remembered that I hadn't said what I was running. My only
excuse is that I find GMail as an email client a nightmare and find it
difficult to reread my own mail before it goes. :-(
I am running KDE 3.5.10 on Lenny. I initially tried to use Trinity
3.5.12 on Squeeze, but that is where my KMail first got messed up.
And I now can't get back to my KDE settings either. I would at least
like to get this working again, and then explore how I shall get
Squeeze + Trinity going on the rebuild of my (sadly defunct) desktop.
I am currently running on my testbed machine, which is not going to be
long-term usable.
Meanwhile, I have all my KMail folders, but cannot persuade KMail to
use them. :-(
I'm really sorry that I landed you two generous helpers with almost
wasting your time. (Almost, because once I have rebuilt my desktop I
shall use either Squeeze or Lenny - and in either case the then
current Trinity. And I shall then want to know how to rescue my
KMail!!)
I bow my head in mortification :-(
Lisi
Help!! I really need my KMail stuff! How do I
persuade KMail to use it?
If you're using the latest trinity version of kmail, I think you must
copy your configuration from kde3 to trinity:
$ cp -afv ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail ~/.trinity/share/apps/
$ cp -afv ~/.kde/share/config/kmail* ~/.trinity/share/config/
And you have to replace '$HOME/.kde' by '$HOME/.trinity' in
/home/lisi/.trinity/share/config/kmailrc:
$ sed 's|HOME/.kde|HOME/.trinity|g' -i ~/.trinity/share/config/kmailrc
Alternatively, just copy the whole folder:
$ cp -av /home/lisi/.kde/* /home/lisi/.trinity/
(but it's going to erase new settings in trinity and you'll have to change
some other files)
(Another solution is to use a symbolic link:
$ rm -rf ~/.trinity
$ ln -sv .kde ~/.trinity
In this case, you'll have nothing to change.)
And if you fear mistakes (you should), don't forget backups:
$ cp -av /home/lisi/.kde /home/lisi/.kde.back
$ cp -av /home/lisi/.trinity /home/lisi/.trinity.back
Good luck. 
1:28 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] KMail
first dind out where kmail has it's folders now, then copy the old mail folder
in that directors.
nik
Am Mittwoch, 16. November 2011 schrieb Lisi Reisz:
Mea culpa - apology at the end. :-(
On 16 November 2011 12:09, Laurent Dard <f.couperin(a)online.fr> wrote:
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Le 16/11/2011 12:28, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
I feel mortified at my own stupidity. I came back to the computer
because I remembered that I hadn't said what I was running. My only
excuse is that I find GMail as an email client a nightmare and find it
difficult to reread my own mail before it goes. :-(
I am running KDE 3.5.10 on Lenny. I initially tried to use Trinity
3.5.12 on Squeeze, but that is where my KMail first got messed up.
And I now can't get back to my KDE settings either. I would at least
like to get this working again, and then explore how I shall get
Squeeze + Trinity going on the rebuild of my (sadly defunct) desktop.
I am currently running on my testbed machine, which is not going to be
long-term usable.
Meanwhile, I have all my KMail folders, but cannot persuade KMail to
use them. :-(
I'm really sorry that I landed you two generous helpers with almost
wasting your time. (Almost, because once I have rebuilt my desktop I
shall use either Squeeze or Lenny - and in either case the then
current Trinity. And I shall then want to know how to rescue my
KMail!!)
I bow my head in mortification :-(
Lisi
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it?
If you're using the latest trinity version of kmail, I think you must
copy your configuration from kde3 to trinity:
$ cp -afv ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail ~/.trinity/share/apps/
$ cp -afv ~/.kde/share/config/kmail* ~/.trinity/share/config/
And you have to replace '$HOME/.kde' by '$HOME/.trinity' in
/home/lisi/.trinity/share/config/kmailrc:
$ sed 's|HOME/.kde|HOME/.trinity|g' -i ~/.trinity/share/config/kmailrc
Alternatively, just copy the whole folder:
$ cp -av /home/lisi/.kde/* /home/lisi/.trinity/
(but it's going to erase new settings in trinity and you'll have to
change some other files)
(Another solution is to use a symbolic link:
$ rm -rf ~/.trinity
$ ln -sv .kde ~/.trinity
In this case, you'll have nothing to change.)
And if you fear mistakes (you should), don't forget backups:
$ cp -av /home/lisi/.kde /home/lisi/.kde.back
$ cp -av /home/lisi/.trinity /home/lisi/.trinity.back
Good luck.
4:23 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] KMail
Le 16/11/2011 13:52, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
Meanwhile, I have all my KMail folders, but cannot
persuade KMail to
use them. :-(
There is one important file you didn't talk about:
/home/lisi/.kde/share/config/kmailrc
If you have a backup, it'll help.
Anyway, if you install kmailcvt, maybe you'll
be able to import your old kmail folders.
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17 Nov
17 Nov
8:40 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] KMail
Hi, Laurent,
Thanks! Philippe mentioned this too! No, I had not previously looked at it.
Lisi
On 16 November 2011 16:23, Laurent Dard <f.couperin(a)online.fr> wrote:
Le 16/11/2011 13:52, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
I have
Meanwhile, I have all my KMail folders, but
cannot persuade KMail to
use them. :-(
There is one important file you didn't talk about:
/home/lisi/.kde/share/config/kmailrc
If you have a backup, it'll help. Anyway, if you install kmailcvt, maybe you'll
be able to import your old kmail folders.
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Laurent Dard
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11:11 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] KMail
I have just put myself back to square one. I who am usually
obsessively paranoid. :-(( So I again have all the email and
folders, but no settings.
Lisi
On 17 November 2011 08:40, Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Laurent,
Thanks! Philippe mentioned this too! No, I had not previously looked at it.
Lisi
On 16 November 2011 16:23, Laurent Dard <f.couperin(a)online.fr> wrote:
Le 16/11/2011 13:52, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
I have
> Anyway, if you install kmailcvt, maybe you'll
> be able to import your old kmail folders. Meanwhile, I have all my KMail folders, but
cannot persuade KMail to
use them. :-(
There is one important file you didn't talk about:
/home/lisi/.kde/share/config/kmailrc
If you have a backup, it'll help. 
16 Nov
16 Nov
1:34 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] KMail
Le mercredi 16 novembre 2011, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
I have now successfully copied an intact copy of the
Mail folder
~/Mail) from a backup to my present setup. I have checked, and my
folders and emails at least are there.
But KMail won't use them/doesn't see them.
In file ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc under [General] put a line with:
folders=/home/lisi/Mail
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17 Nov
17 Nov
8:37 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] KMail
Thanks again, all of you.
2011/11/16 Philippe Bourdeu d'Aguerre <bda(a)aime-toulouse.fr>fr>:
Le mercredi 16 novembre 2011, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
The file already has:
folders[$e]=$HOME/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail
I tried to add
folders=/home/lisi/Mail
instead of, after and before it.
To no avail.
I also tried to open KMail at the command line.
I failed, so I thought, and went on with other things.
Then KMail suddenly opened up, with all my folders and email, but no settings.
I started to put the various settings in, and to recreate my filters.
And then to sort out the mail, a large amount of which had landed
unsorted in the inbox.
I put my computer on this morning and opened KMail. The settings I
put in yesterday evening are all there, as are the filters I set up
yesterday. I have looked at the ~/Mail directory. The emails that I
downloaded last night are there, as are the rest.
Why has KMail gone back to not using the ~/Mail? And, more
importantly, how do I get KMail to use it?!
Thanks,
Lisi
I have now successfully copied an intact copy of
the Mail folder
~/Mail) from a backup to my present setup. I have checked, and my
folders and emails at least are there.
But KMail won't use them/doesn't see them.
In file ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc under [General] put a line with:
folders=/home/lisi/Mail 
24 Nov
24 Nov
5:47 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] KMail
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 05:34:46 Philippe Bourdeu d'Aguerre wrote:
Le mercredi 16 novembre 2011, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
Have you tried just importing them?
When you're in Kmail. click om import, tell it you want to import kmail
folders, then browse to where your old /.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail folder is.
You should get a new folder in your new kmail list of folders called kmail
import.
You can now move the messages, either manually or with import filters to where
you want them.
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I have now successfully copied an intact copy of
the Mail folder
~/Mail) from a backup to my present setup. I have checked, and my
folders and emails at least are there.
But KMail won't use them/doesn't see them.
In file ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc under [General] put a line with:
folders=/home/lisi/Mail
2 Dec
2 Dec
5:40 p.m.
New subject: Temporarily sort of solved, was Re: KMail
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 11:28:08 Lisi wrote:
I have now successfully copied an intact copy of the
Mail folder
~/Mail) from a backup to my present setup. I have checked, and my
folders and emails at least are there.
But KMail won't use them/doesn't see them.
I have finally got KMail going correctly again, but, last time I got it going,
shutting the computer down over night was fatal. KMail was back to not
working. :-(
Anyhow, I now have it working and it is my current intention to keep it
running 24/7 until I can get the whole problem sorted out definitively.
(I.e. have time to rebuild my desktop and install Trinity, at least 13, at
this stage probably on Wheezy - but only if, at that time, you kind folks
think that it is a feasible intention.)
Thanks for all your help, and sorry that it took me so long to realise that I
hadn't finally thanked you all.
Lisi
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