I am still having problems getting KMail to use my data from before my desktop died.
I have now successfully copied an intact copy of the Mail folder ~/Mail) from a backup to my present setup. I have checked, and my folders and emails at least are there.
But KMail won't use them/doesn't see them. This is the method I have always used before, that has always worked before. I am desperate to be able to use KMail again, but daren't just set it up because I am then going to be faced with losing everything that I do now, if I ever succeed in restoring the stuff from the past.
I thought of purging and reinstalling KMail and starting again, but that would remove 383 packages, and I am somewhat chary therefore of doing it.
~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail in the new set-up has:
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/drafts file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.drafts.index file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.drafts.index.ids file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/inbox file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.inbox.index file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.inbox.index.ids file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/outbox file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.outbox.index file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.outbox.index.ids file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/sent-mail file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.sent-mail.index file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.sent-mail.index.ids file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/templates file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.templates.index file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.templates.index.ids file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/trash file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.trash.index file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.trash.index.ids
There is now no error message about indices, but it looks to me as though this directory is at the root of the problem.
I have renamed it and started KMail, and it just regenerates it the same, and still doesn't use the available data, but kmail gives:
file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/autosave file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/autosave.index.ids file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/$name%40gmail.com:%40pop.gmail.com:995 file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/$name%40googlemail.com:%40pop.gmail.com:995 file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/$name:%40pop.gmail.com:995 file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/dimap file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/$name%40gmail.com:%40pop.gmail.com:995 file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/$name%40googlemail.com:%40pop.gmail.com:995 file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/elizabeth.reisz:%40pop.gmail.com:995 file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/$name%40googlemail.com:%40pop.gmail.com:995 file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/imap file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/kmmainwin.rc file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/lisi%40$name.myzen.co.uk:%40mailhost.zen.co.uk:110 file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/lisi.reisz%40gmail.com:%40pop.gmail.com:995 file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/lisi.reisz:%40pop.gmail.com:995 file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/lisi.t155:%40pop.gmail.com:995 file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/lock file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail.old file:///home/lisi/.kde/share/apps/kmail/search
Help!! I really need my KMail stuff! How do I persuade KMail to use it?
Lisi
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 11:28:08 Lisi Reisz wrote:
I am still having problems getting KMail to use my data from before my desktop died.
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~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail in the new set-up has:
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Assuming you're on trinity, then I believe it has to be under .trinity, not .kde. I just made .trinity a symlink to .kde.
HTH
Neil Youngman
Le 16/11/2011 12:28, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
Help!! I really need my KMail stuff! How do I persuade KMail to use it?
If you're using the latest trinity version of kmail, I think you must copy your configuration from kde3 to trinity: $ cp -afv ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail ~/.trinity/share/apps/ $ cp -afv ~/.kde/share/config/kmail* ~/.trinity/share/config/
And you have to replace '$HOME/.kde' by '$HOME/.trinity' in /home/lisi/.trinity/share/config/kmailrc: $ sed 's|HOME/.kde|HOME/.trinity|g' -i ~/.trinity/share/config/kmailrc
Alternatively, just copy the whole folder: $ cp -av /home/lisi/.kde/* /home/lisi/.trinity/ (but it's going to erase new settings in trinity and you'll have to change some other files) (Another solution is to use a symbolic link: $ rm -rf ~/.trinity $ ln -sv .kde ~/.trinity In this case, you'll have nothing to change.)
And if you fear mistakes (you should), don't forget backups: $ cp -av /home/lisi/.kde /home/lisi/.kde.back $ cp -av /home/lisi/.trinity /home/lisi/.trinity.back
Good luck.
Mea culpa - apology at the end. :-(
On 16 November 2011 12:09, Laurent Dard f.couperin@online.fr wrote:
Le 16/11/2011 12:28, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
Help!! I really need my KMail stuff! How do I persuade KMail to use it?
If you're using the latest trinity version of kmail, I think you must copy your configuration from kde3 to trinity: $ cp -afv ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail ~/.trinity/share/apps/ $ cp -afv ~/.kde/share/config/kmail* ~/.trinity/share/config/
And you have to replace '$HOME/.kde' by '$HOME/.trinity' in /home/lisi/.trinity/share/config/kmailrc: $ sed 's|HOME/.kde|HOME/.trinity|g' -i ~/.trinity/share/config/kmailrc
Alternatively, just copy the whole folder: $ cp -av /home/lisi/.kde/* /home/lisi/.trinity/ (but it's going to erase new settings in trinity and you'll have to change some other files) (Another solution is to use a symbolic link: $ rm -rf ~/.trinity $ ln -sv .kde ~/.trinity In this case, you'll have nothing to change.)
And if you fear mistakes (you should), don't forget backups: $ cp -av /home/lisi/.kde /home/lisi/.kde.back $ cp -av /home/lisi/.trinity /home/lisi/.trinity.back
Good luck.
I feel mortified at my own stupidity. I came back to the computer because I remembered that I hadn't said what I was running. My only excuse is that I find GMail as an email client a nightmare and find it difficult to reread my own mail before it goes. :-(
I am running KDE 3.5.10 on Lenny. I initially tried to use Trinity 3.5.12 on Squeeze, but that is where my KMail first got messed up. And I now can't get back to my KDE settings either. I would at least like to get this working again, and then explore how I shall get Squeeze + Trinity going on the rebuild of my (sadly defunct) desktop. I am currently running on my testbed machine, which is not going to be long-term usable.
Meanwhile, I have all my KMail folders, but cannot persuade KMail to use them. :-(
I'm really sorry that I landed you two generous helpers with almost wasting your time. (Almost, because once I have rebuilt my desktop I shall use either Squeeze or Lenny - and in either case the then current Trinity. And I shall then want to know how to rescue my KMail!!)
I bow my head in mortification :-(
Lisi
first dind out where kmail has it's folders now, then copy the old mail folder in that directors.
nik
Am Mittwoch, 16. November 2011 schrieb Lisi Reisz:
Mea culpa - apology at the end. :-(
On 16 November 2011 12:09, Laurent Dard f.couperin@online.fr wrote:
Le 16/11/2011 12:28, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
Help!! I really need my KMail stuff! How do I persuade KMail to use it?
If you're using the latest trinity version of kmail, I think you must copy your configuration from kde3 to trinity: $ cp -afv ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail ~/.trinity/share/apps/ $ cp -afv ~/.kde/share/config/kmail* ~/.trinity/share/config/
And you have to replace '$HOME/.kde' by '$HOME/.trinity' in /home/lisi/.trinity/share/config/kmailrc: $ sed 's|HOME/.kde|HOME/.trinity|g' -i ~/.trinity/share/config/kmailrc
Alternatively, just copy the whole folder: $ cp -av /home/lisi/.kde/* /home/lisi/.trinity/ (but it's going to erase new settings in trinity and you'll have to change some other files) (Another solution is to use a symbolic link: $ rm -rf ~/.trinity $ ln -sv .kde ~/.trinity In this case, you'll have nothing to change.)
And if you fear mistakes (you should), don't forget backups: $ cp -av /home/lisi/.kde /home/lisi/.kde.back $ cp -av /home/lisi/.trinity /home/lisi/.trinity.back
Good luck.
I feel mortified at my own stupidity. I came back to the computer because I remembered that I hadn't said what I was running. My only excuse is that I find GMail as an email client a nightmare and find it difficult to reread my own mail before it goes. :-(
I am running KDE 3.5.10 on Lenny. I initially tried to use Trinity 3.5.12 on Squeeze, but that is where my KMail first got messed up. And I now can't get back to my KDE settings either. I would at least like to get this working again, and then explore how I shall get Squeeze + Trinity going on the rebuild of my (sadly defunct) desktop. I am currently running on my testbed machine, which is not going to be long-term usable.
Meanwhile, I have all my KMail folders, but cannot persuade KMail to use them. :-(
I'm really sorry that I landed you two generous helpers with almost wasting your time. (Almost, because once I have rebuilt my desktop I shall use either Squeeze or Lenny - and in either case the then current Trinity. And I shall then want to know how to rescue my KMail!!)
I bow my head in mortification :-(
Lisi
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Le 16/11/2011 13:52, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
Meanwhile, I have all my KMail folders, but cannot persuade KMail to use them. :-(
There is one important file you didn't talk about: /home/lisi/.kde/share/config/kmailrc If you have a backup, it'll help.
Anyway, if you install kmailcvt, maybe you'll be able to import your old kmail folders.
Hi, Laurent,
Thanks! Philippe mentioned this too! No, I had not previously looked at it.
Lisi
On 16 November 2011 16:23, Laurent Dard f.couperin@online.fr wrote:
Le 16/11/2011 13:52, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
Meanwhile, I have all my KMail folders, but cannot persuade KMail to use them. :-(
There is one important file you didn't talk about: /home/lisi/.kde/share/config/kmailrc If you have a backup, it'll help.
I have
Anyway, if you install kmailcvt, maybe you'll be able to import your old kmail folders.
-- Laurent Dard
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I have just put myself back to square one. I who am usually obsessively paranoid. :-(( So I again have all the email and folders, but no settings.
Lisi
On 17 November 2011 08:40, Lisi Reisz lisi.reisz@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, Laurent,
Thanks! Philippe mentioned this too! No, I had not previously looked at it.
Lisi
On 16 November 2011 16:23, Laurent Dard f.couperin@online.fr wrote:
Le 16/11/2011 13:52, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
Meanwhile, I have all my KMail folders, but cannot persuade KMail to use them. :-(
There is one important file you didn't talk about: /home/lisi/.kde/share/config/kmailrc If you have a backup, it'll help.
I have
Anyway, if you install kmailcvt, maybe you'll be able to import your old kmail folders.
Le mercredi 16 novembre 2011, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
I have now successfully copied an intact copy of the Mail folder ~/Mail) from a backup to my present setup. I have checked, and my folders and emails at least are there.
But KMail won't use them/doesn't see them.
In file ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc under [General] put a line with:
folders=/home/lisi/Mail
Thanks again, all of you.
2011/11/16 Philippe Bourdeu d'Aguerre bda@aime-toulouse.fr:
Le mercredi 16 novembre 2011, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
I have now successfully copied an intact copy of the Mail folder ~/Mail) from a backup to my present setup. I have checked, and my folders and emails at least are there.
But KMail won't use them/doesn't see them.
In file ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc under [General] put a line with:
folders=/home/lisi/Mail
The file already has: folders[$e]=$HOME/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail
I tried to add folders=/home/lisi/Mail instead of, after and before it.
To no avail.
I also tried to open KMail at the command line.
I failed, so I thought, and went on with other things.
Then KMail suddenly opened up, with all my folders and email, but no settings.
I started to put the various settings in, and to recreate my filters. And then to sort out the mail, a large amount of which had landed unsorted in the inbox.
I put my computer on this morning and opened KMail. The settings I put in yesterday evening are all there, as are the filters I set up yesterday. I have looked at the ~/Mail directory. The emails that I downloaded last night are there, as are the rest.
Why has KMail gone back to not using the ~/Mail? And, more importantly, how do I get KMail to use it?!
Thanks, Lisi
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 05:34:46 Philippe Bourdeu d'Aguerre wrote:
Le mercredi 16 novembre 2011, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
I have now successfully copied an intact copy of the Mail folder ~/Mail) from a backup to my present setup. I have checked, and my folders and emails at least are there.
But KMail won't use them/doesn't see them.
In file ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc under [General] put a line with:
folders=/home/lisi/Mail
Have you tried just importing them?
When you're in Kmail. click om import, tell it you want to import kmail folders, then browse to where your old /.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail folder is.
You should get a new folder in your new kmail list of folders called kmail import.
You can now move the messages, either manually or with import filters to where you want them.
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 11:28:08 Lisi wrote:
I have now successfully copied an intact copy of the Mail folder ~/Mail) from a backup to my present setup. I have checked, and my folders and emails at least are there.
But KMail won't use them/doesn't see them.
I have finally got KMail going correctly again, but, last time I got it going, shutting the computer down over night was fatal. KMail was back to not working. :-(
Anyhow, I now have it working and it is my current intention to keep it running 24/7 until I can get the whole problem sorted out definitively. (I.e. have time to rebuild my desktop and install Trinity, at least 13, at this stage probably on Wheezy - but only if, at that time, you kind folks think that it is a feasible intention.)
Thanks for all your help, and sorry that it took me so long to realise that I hadn't finally thanked you all.
Lisi
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