16 Jul
2012
16 Jul
'12
9:53 p.m.
I just did an upgrade, and knetworkmanager seems to have suddenly
vanished from the build:
pjh@pjh-laptop:~$ sudo aptitude install knetworkmanager-trinity
"knetworkmanager-trinity" exists in the package database, but it is not a
real package and no package provides it.
--
Patricia J. Hawkins
16 Jul
16 Jul
10:31 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] knetworkmanager-trinity vanished?
I just did an upgrade, and knetworkmanager seems to
have suddenly
vanished from the build:
knetwork manager is not available for distributions that use
network-manager 0.9 or above due to the fact that critical functionality
was removed from the upstream network-manager project.
We are investigating other network management systems for inclusion in TDE
as network-manager appears to be a poor choice for TDE at this time.
Tim
19 Jul
19 Jul
10:21 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] knetworkmanager-trinity vanished?
Timothy Pearson wrote:
I suggest using the GTK nm-applet for now. At least on Ubuntu Precise,
everything works perfectly when just running nm-applet in a Trinity
session. I haven't encountered a single problem yet with it. I do not
think it would be wise to try to replace network-manager, because there
do not seem to be any alternatives with a comparable amount of features.
Julius
I just did an
upgrade, and knetworkmanager seems to have suddenly
vanished from the build:
knetwork manager is not available for distributions that use
network-manager 0.9 or above due to the fact that critical functionality
was removed from the upstream network-manager project.
We are investigating other network management systems for inclusion in TDE
as network-manager appears to be a poor choice for TDE at this time.
20 Jul
20 Jul
4:38 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] knetworkmanager-trinity vanished?
Timothy Pearson wrote:
I suggest using the GTK nm-applet for now. At least on Ubuntu Precise,
everything works perfectly when just running nm-applet in a Trinity
session. I haven't encountered a single problem yet with it. I do not
think it would be wise to try to replace network-manager, because there
do not seem to be any alternatives with a comparable amount of features.
Julius
I am not so sure--nm-applet won't even display it's icon here, and to make
matters worse it is a known and ignored upstream bug. The network-manager
developers seem to be focusing on Gnome/Unity only; the icon bug also
appears on xfce. To top it all off I personally think nm-applet's user
interface is rather ugly and difficult to use. :-)
Tim
I just
did an upgrade, and knetworkmanager seems to have suddenly
vanished from the build:
knetwork manager is not available for distributions that use
network-manager 0.9 or above due to the fact that critical functionality
was removed from the upstream network-manager project.
We are investigating other network management systems for inclusion in
TDE
as network-manager appears to be a poor choice for TDE at this time.
1:58 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] knetworkmanager-trinity vanished?
Timothy Pearson wrote:
Which version of nm-applet is that? For me, with Ubuntu Precise and the
Trinity Nightly builds, the icon always shows up without problems. The
version of the package is 0.9.4.1-0ubuntu2. Also notifications from
nm-applet work great together with Trinity's notification support!
While its interface could be improved, I don't think it's that bad. I'm
not aware of any alternatives that come even close in features or with a
better interface. I think at this point it would be easier to cooperate
with the Network Manager people to solve small issues that are there
than to look for an alternative.
Now that the NM configuration is actually applied at a system-wide level
(you do not loose your connection by logging off anymore), the biggest
problem I had with NM is completely gone.
Julius
Timothy
Pearson wrote:
I am not so sure--nm-applet won't even display it's icon here, and to make
matters worse it is a known and ignored upstream bug. The network-manager
developers seem to be focusing on Gnome/Unity only; the icon bug also
appears on xfce. To top it all off I personally think nm-applet's user
interface is rather ugly and difficult to use. :-) We are investigating other network management
systems for inclusion in
TDE
as network-manager appears to be a poor choice for TDE at this time.
I suggest using the GTK nm-applet for now. At least on Ubuntu Precise,
everything works perfectly when just running nm-applet in a Trinity
session. I haven't encountered a single problem yet with it. I do not
think it would be wise to try to replace network-manager, because there
do not seem to be any alternatives with a comparable amount of features. 
2:11 p.m.
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On Friday 20 July 2012 14:58:40 Julius Schwartzenberg wrote:
While its interface could be improved, I don't
think it's that bad. I'm
not aware of any alternatives that come even close in features or with a
better interface. I think at this point it would be easier to cooperate
with the Network Manager people to solve small issues that are there
than to look for an alternative.
Many of us already use wicd. In fact, one of teh first things I do when I
have instralled a system is purge NM and install wicd.
Lisi
2:11 p.m.
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On 20 July 2012 10:11, Lisi <lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday 20 July 2012 14:58:40 Julius Schwartzenberg
wrote:
I was thinking about creating an trinty wicd applet. Unfortunately the
current wicd applets are gtk or for kde4. Also they are written in
python which is rather bloated.
Calvin
While its interface could be improved, I
don't think it's that bad. I'm
not aware of any alternatives that come even close in features or with a
better interface. I think at this point it would be easier to cooperate
with the Network Manager people to solve small issues that are there
than to look for an alternative.
Many of us already use wicd. In fact, one of teh first things I do when I
have instralled a system is purge NM and install wicd.
Lisi
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2:26 p.m.
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On Friday 20 July 2012 15:11:05 Calvin Morrison wrote:
I was thinking about creating an trinty wicd applet.
Unfortunately the
current wicd applets are gtk or for kde4. Also they are written in
python which is rather bloated.
Oh. Sorry. :-( They say that ignorance is bliss, but I remain unconvinced.
Lisi
2:29 p.m.
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Lisi wrote:
On Friday 20 July 2012 14:58:40 Julius Schwartzenberg
wrote:
Yes, wicd works very good but there are two big problems with it.
1. People who are not aware of what exactly a supplicant is will not
easily set it up. It's configuration, while very powerful, is not really
user friendly.
2. It only supports wired and wireless ethernet. This probably works for
most cases, but Network Manager offers significantly more which will
probably more and more important in the future.
I have used wicd myself as well for a long time, when NM didn't work for
me, but nowadays it seems the problems I had with NM have mostly been
solved.
Julius
While its interface could be improved, I
don't think it's that bad. I'm
not aware of any alternatives that come even close in features or with a
better interface. I think at this point it would be easier to cooperate
with the Network Manager people to solve small issues that are there
than to look for an alternative.
Many of us already use wicd. In fact, one of teh first things I do when I
have instralled a system is purge NM and install wicd.
2:42 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] knetworkmanager-trinity vanished?
On Friday 20 July 2012 15:29:53 Julius Schwartzenberg wrote:
I have used wicd myself as well for a long time, when
NM didn't work for
me, but nowadays it seems the problems I had with NM have mostly been
solved.
I must admit that it is some time since I tried it. Network Mangler seemed a
good nick-name at the time. And I rarely use distros that come with NM.
So I am prepeared to accept that it has changed for the better!
Lisi
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