On Thu, 2 Dec, 2021 at 3:34 PM, Stefan Krusche linux@stefan-krusche.de wrote:
To: tde users Am Donnerstag, 2. Dezember 2021 schrieb Gene Heskett:
What again is the name of the thing that sets the window manager its to use.
tdm or trinity display manager or debian package tdm-trinity
Cheers, Stefan
Which cannot be installed to bullseye if there is any other xwindow stuff on the machine.
This didn't used to be. I had the installer put xfce4 in for a gui, same as the stretch install on the 2T drive that killed itself, and tde installed and ran nicely alongside of xfce4 on stretch.
Now there are only 6 trinity packages that will install without triggering a broken
packages lockout. This is the 7nth bare metal install, and with the 1.9Tbyte raid10 taking several hours to format each time, it has not been fun. So atm I am back on kde5 and doing battle with windmills. I've not been able to ID the cause, but if its fixed so it will install alongside another desktop, on bullseye, please advise.
Webmail to me is the biggest PITA ever foisted on us by macrocrap.
Take care and stay well Stefan, and thank you. Gene
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This didn't used to be. I had the installer put xfce4 in for a gui, same as the stretch install on the 2T drive that killed itself, and tde installed and ran nicely alongside of xfce4 on stretch.
Now there are only 6 trinity packages that will install without triggering a broken
Hi, Gene!
I've been trying to mind my own business, because it sounds like you're doing a command-line installation without any window manager ... or at least until you get a working window manager.
I don't know bullseye, but on buster/beowulf, xfce works pretty well, and I install that, then use that desktop to install the Trinity stuff, then uninstall xfce. Also, MATE works pretty well, so you might try that, but I myself went from MATE to xfce.
Felix had it down to a system, how to install Trinity using only a shell. I recall asking him to post his method to the list, so it ought to be up there to serve as a guide.
If this is some new development with bullseye and later, then I will be running into that same problem ... sooner or later.
:-\
Bill
On Thursday 02 December 2021 02:55:55 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
This is the 7nth bare metal install, and with the 1.9Tbyte raid10 taking several hours to format each time, it has not been fun.
You only need to partition and format once. Just install into existing partitions...
Also as previously said, if you’re wanting to stick with Debian derivatives, antiX (and even MX) don't have the issues you're describing. I’d even say deuvian, but someone has said it has memory leaks, so probably skip that.
Additionally if you’re tired of the whole re-install to bare metal every few years look into Qubes OS, https://www.qubes-os.org/ . That way you’re never ‘down’ as your existing ‘system’ is still running while you’re building the next one.
On Thu December 2 2021 12:55:55 Gene Heskett wrote:
Now there are only 6 trinity packages that will install without triggering a broken
packages lockout. This is the 7nth bare metal install, and with the 1.9Tbyte raid10 taking several hours to format each time, it has not been fun. So atm I am back on kde5 and doing battle with windmills. I've not been able to ID the cause, but if its fixed so it will install alongside another desktop, on bullseye, please advise.
Gene,
What EXACTLY is the first thing that goes wrong after installing a MINIMAL Bullseye when you do PRECISELY WHAT try to install TDE?
If you've already installed gdm3 or xfce4 or kde5 I don't want to know. If it's TDE you want why isn't it TDE you're installing?
This works fine for a lot of people - I've done it dozens of times - and we don't end up with gdm3 or xfce4 or kde5 when we install TDE.
--Mike
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