Hi, all,
I have just received an email from the ezmlm program managing the trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net mailing list.
It is threatening to unsubscribe me if messages from me to someone I have never heard of, who is presumably getting the emails because he is subscribed to this list, bounce again.
Below is some of the header. I don't want to be summarily unsubscribed, and don't understand what I can do about it anyway, given that it is not my email address that is bouncing anything, so far as I can see. But I am not good with headers.
So - what can I do to be allowed to continue on this list?
Lisi
--- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.
Return-Path: MAILER-DAEMON@vali.starlink.edu Received: (qmail 12676 invoked by uid 64014); 10 Sep 2012 08:47:44 -0500 Received: by vali.starlink.edu (Postfix) id 567C84560252; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:47:44 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:47:44 -0500 (CDT) From: MAILER-DAEMON@vali.starlink.edu (Mail Delivery System) Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender To: trinity-users-return-3524-lisi.reisz=gmail.com@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Auto-Submitted: auto-replied MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="833714560269.1347284864/vali.starlink.edu" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: 20120910134744.567C84560252@vali.starlink.edu
This is a MIME-encapsulated message.
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Lisi lisi.reisz@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, all,
I have just received an email from the ezmlm program managing the trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net mailing list.
It is threatening to unsubscribe me if messages from me to someone I have never heard of, who is presumably getting the emails because he is subscribed to this list, bounce again.
[snip]
I've gotten similar messages about messages bouncing numerous times; I've seen no ill effects of it though.
-- later daze. :: Robert Xu :: protocol.by/rxu
Ive been trying to unsubscribe but can seem to do it.
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Robert Xu robxu9@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Lisi lisi.reisz@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, all,
I have just received an email from the ezmlm program managing the trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net mailing list.
It is threatening to unsubscribe me if messages from me to someone I have never heard of, who is presumably getting the emails because he is subscribed to this list, bounce again.
[snip]
I've gotten similar messages about messages bouncing numerous times; I've seen no ill effects of it though.
-- later daze. :: Robert Xu :: protocol.by/rxu
To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting
Thank you for the reassurance!
Lisi
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012, Lisi wrote:
Thank you for the reassurance!
it is strange that it hit so many email providers at once. I got one too via gmail.
all's well that ends....
Lisi
F.
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:27:27 -0400 (EDT) Felmon Davis davisf@union.edu wrote:
Hello Felmon,
it is strange that it hit so many email providers at once. I got one
It only needs one server to start bouncing, for whatever reason, and it _can_ affect millions of people.
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:27:27 -0400 (EDT) Felmon Davis davisf@union.edu wrote:
Hello Felmon,
it is strange that it hit so many email providers at once. I got one
It only needs one server to start bouncing, for whatever reason, and it _can_ affect millions of people.
of course you're right.
seems to be pacified now.
F.
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 13:16:16 -0400 (EDT) Felmon Davis davisf@union.edu wrote:
Hello Felmon,
seems to be pacified now.
Such things tend to be transient.
Fortunately for us. :-)
What is beginning to happen around the net -- with 'responsible' ISPs -- is the enforcement of Forward-confirmed reverse DNS (FCrDNS)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward-confirmed_reverse_DNS -and-
Sender Policy Framework (SPF)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sender_Policy_Framework
In a nutshell, lists email distribution is affected because the emails are re-sent by the list server as From: The_Originator@example.com. Which is true -- it did originate "From:" me, or "From:" you. But, it appears to be a forgery to incoming mailservers that do this checking, because those emails CANNOT be "From:" that user from THAT MTA.
For example, this email - From: Jonesy trinity@jonz.net cannot be sent from the mail servers at vali.starlink.edu --- at least not with FCrDNS checking.
FCrDNS cuts down on A LOT of spam. My SysAdmin says 90% of incoming email is pure crap spam -- with forged "From:"s out of cracked botnet machines. FCrDNS cuts down on ALMOST ALL of that. Think of the savings...
But, I've had to remove my domain from that checking by my ISP because I am on so many lists, email reflectors, what-ever-you-call-them. Eventually lists will have to evolve to some different scheme.
Too much information? Jonesy
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:35:03 -0600 (MDT) Jonesy trinity@jonz.net wrote:
Hello Jonesy,
Too much information?
Probably. :-)
But at least I understood it.
That's interesting because I _have_ been unsubscribed from the list three times (so far) this year. However, I haven't received any warning messages about it though, so I have only realised this after I've noticed that I've not had any messages from the list for a while :-/
LeeE
On Saturday 22 September 2012 16:43:10 Lisi wrote:
Hi, all,
I have just received an email from the ezmlm program managing the trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net mailing list.
It is threatening to unsubscribe me if messages from me to someone I have never heard of, who is presumably getting the emails because he is subscribed to this list, bounce again.
Below is some of the header. I don't want to be summarily unsubscribed, and don't understand what I can do about it anyway, given that it is not my email address that is bouncing anything, so far as I can see. But I am not good with headers.
So - what can I do to be allowed to continue on this list?
Lisi
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