22 Sep
2012
22 Sep
'12
3:43 p.m.
Hi, all,
I have just received an email from the ezmlm program managing the
trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net mailing list.
It is threatening to unsubscribe me if messages from me to someone I have
never heard of, who is presumably getting the emails because he is subscribed
to this list, bounce again.
Below is some of the header. I don't want to be summarily unsubscribed, and
don't understand what I can do about it anyway, given that it is not my email
address that is bouncing anything, so far as I can see. But I am not good
with headers.
So - what can I do to be allowed to continue on this list?
Lisi
--- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.
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22 Sep
22 Sep
6:21 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Unsubscribe threat
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Lisi <lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, all,
I have just received an email from the ezmlm program managing the
trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net mailing list.
It is threatening to unsubscribe me if messages from me to someone I have
never heard of, who is presumably getting the emails because he is subscribed
to this list, bounce again.
[snip]
I've gotten similar messages about messages bouncing numerous times;
I've seen no ill effects of it though.
--
later daze. :: Robert Xu :: protocol.by/rxu
6:48 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Unsubscribe threat
Ive been trying to unsubscribe but can seem to do it.
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Robert Xu <robxu9(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Lisi
<lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, all,
I have just received an email from the ezmlm program managing the
trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net mailing list.
It is threatening to unsubscribe me if messages from me to someone I have
never heard of, who is presumably getting the emails because he is subscribed
to this list, bounce again.
[snip]
I've gotten similar messages about messages bouncing numerous times;
I've seen no ill effects of it though.
--
later daze. :: Robert Xu :: protocol.by/rxu
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9:50 p.m.
New subject: Thank you! was: Re: [trinity-users] Unsubscribe threat
Thank you for the reassurance!
Lisi
10:27 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Thank you! was: Re: [trinity-users] Unsubscribe threat
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012, Lisi wrote:
Thank you for the reassurance!
it is strange that it hit so many email providers at once. I got one
too via gmail.
all's well that ends....
Lisi
F.
--
Felmon Davis
Old age is too high a price to pay for maturity.
23 Sep
23 Sep
10:19 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Thank you! was: Re: [trinity-users] Unsubscribe threat
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:27:27 -0400 (EDT)
Felmon Davis <davisf(a)union.edu> wrote:
Hello Felmon,
it is strange that it hit so many email providers at
once. I got one
It only needs one server to start bouncing, for whatever reason, and it
_can_ affect millions of people.
--
Regards _
/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)rad never immediately apparent"
Who's a sucker now?
Edward The Bear - The Damned
5:16 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Thank you! was: Re: [trinity-users] Unsubscribe threat
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:27:27 -0400 (EDT)
Felmon Davis <davisf(a)union.edu> wrote:
Hello Felmon,
of course you're right.
seems to be pacified now.
F.
--
Felmon Davis
The root of all superstition is that men observe when a thing hits,
but not when it misses.
-- Francis Bacon
it is strange that it hit so many email providers
at once. I got one
It only needs one server to start bouncing, for whatever reason, and it
_can_ affect millions of people.
5:31 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Thank you! was: Re: [trinity-users] Unsubscribe threat
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 13:16:16 -0400 (EDT)
Felmon Davis <davisf(a)union.edu> wrote:
Hello Felmon,
seems to be pacified now.
Such things tend to be transient.
Fortunately for us. :-)
--
Regards _
/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)rad never immediately apparent"
Well you tried it just the once and found it alright for kicks
Orgasm Addict - Buzzcocks
10:35 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Unsubscribe threat
What is beginning to happen around the net -- with 'responsible' ISPs --
is the enforcement of Forward-confirmed reverse DNS (FCrDNS)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward-confirmed_reverse_DNS
-and-
Sender Policy Framework (SPF)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sender_Policy_Framework
In a nutshell, lists email distribution is affected because the emails
are re-sent by the list server as From: The_Originator(a)example.com.
Which is true -- it did originate "From:" me, or "From:" you.
But, it appears to be a forgery to incoming mailservers that do this
checking, because those emails CANNOT be "From:" that user from THAT MTA.
For example, this email - From: Jonesy <trinity(a)jonz.net> cannot
be sent from the mail servers at vali.starlink.edu --- at least not
with FCrDNS checking.
FCrDNS cuts down on A LOT of spam. My SysAdmin says 90% of incoming
email is pure crap spam -- with forged "From:"s out of cracked botnet
machines. FCrDNS cuts down on ALMOST ALL of that.
Think of the savings...
But, I've had to remove my domain from that checking by my ISP because
I am on so many lists, email reflectors, what-ever-you-call-them.
Eventually lists will have to evolve to some different scheme.
Too much information?
Jonesy
24 Sep
24 Sep
10:08 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Unsubscribe threat
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:35:03 -0600 (MDT)
Jonesy <trinity(a)jonz.net> wrote:
Hello Jonesy,
Too much information?
Probably. :-)
But at least I understood it.
--
Regards _
/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)rad never immediately apparent"
They said we'd be artistically free, but that was on a bit of paper
Complete Control - The Clash
23 Sep
23 Sep
11:46 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Unsubscribe threat
That's interesting because I _have_ been unsubscribed from the list three
times (so far) this year. However, I haven't received any warning messages
about it though, so I have only realised this after I've noticed that I've
not had any messages from the list for a while :-/
LeeE
On Saturday 22 September 2012 16:43:10 Lisi wrote:
Hi, all,
I have just received an email from the ezmlm program managing the
trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net mailing list.
It is threatening to unsubscribe me if messages from me to someone I have
never heard of, who is presumably getting the emails because he is
subscribed to this list, bounce again.
Below is some of the header. I don't want to be summarily unsubscribed,
and don't understand what I can do about it anyway, given that it is not my
email address that is bouncing anything, so far as I can see. But I am not
good with headers.
So - what can I do to be allowed to continue on this list?
Lisi
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