Hi all!
Don't know why but I'm getting mail bounces from the list:
" Your mail to 'users@trinitydesktop.org' with the subject
Re: [tde-users] Re: Settings missing in Konqueror
Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
The message is being held because:
Header "Yes" matched a header rule
Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. "
Anybody knows why?
Nik
On Monday 30 of August 2021 18:10:47 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi all!
Don't know why but I'm getting mail bounces from the list:
" Your mail to 'users@trinitydesktop.org' with the subject
Re: [tde-users] Re: Settings missing in KonquerorIs being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
The message is being held because:
Header "Yes" matched a header ruleEither the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. "
Anybody knows why?
Nik
Hi Nik,
it seems that a substantial reason is that your domain got on blacklist. Here is a complete listing of RSPAMD rating:
X-Spamd-Result: default: False [7.30 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RSPAMD_URIBL(4.50)[klepp.biz:email]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[klepp.biz]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; FROM_NAME_HAS_TITLE(1.00)[dr]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6830, ipnet:62.179.0.0/17, country:NL]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[62.179.121.140:from] X-Rspamd-Server: mail X-Spam: Yes
Note: I gradually approve your posts for delivery to the mailing list, but I am not sure that everyone receives them because they can also evaluate them as junk.
Cheers
Hi Slávek!
Anno domini 2021 Mon, 30 Aug 18:16:06 +0200 Slávek Banko scripsit:
On Monday 30 of August 2021 18:10:47 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi all!
Don't know why but I'm getting mail bounces from the list:
" Your mail to 'users@trinitydesktop.org' with the subject
Re: [tde-users] Re: Settings missing in KonquerorIs being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
The message is being held because:
Header "Yes" matched a header ruleEither the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. "
Anybody knows why?
Nik
Hi Nik,
it seems that a substantial reason is that your domain got on blacklist. Here is a complete listing of RSPAMD rating:
X-Spamd-Result: default: False [7.30 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RSPAMD_URIBL(4.50)[klepp.biz:email]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[klepp.biz]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; FROM_NAME_HAS_TITLE(1.00)[dr]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6830, ipnet:62.179.0.0/17, country:NL]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[62.179.121.140:from] X-Rspamd-Server: mail X-Spam: Yes
Note: I gradually approve your posts for delivery to the mailing list, but I am not sure that everyone receives them because they can also evaluate them as junk.
Cheers
Thank you. So nothing I can do but wait :)
Nik
On Monday 30 August 2021 11:28:46 am Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2021 Mon, 30 Aug 18:16:06 +0200 Slávek Banko scripsit:
On Monday 30 of August 2021 18:10:47 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Don't know why but I'm getting mail bounces from the list: Anybody knows why?
it seems that a substantial reason is that your domain got on blacklist. Here is a complete listing of RSPAMD rating:
Thank you. So nothing I can do but wait :)
Hi Nik,
Naw, just go un-blacklist your email domain.
RSPAMD_URIBL(4.50)[klepp.biz:email];
There are plenty of completely free web sites that'll show you how (so don't get sucked into paying some ashhat). After you find an aggregator who'll give you a report on all the different white/black list services, you'll usually need to go to the ones that blacklist you directly to un-blacklist yourself. Startpage, DuckDuckGo, etc... will get you where you need.
Per the below you could also:
- not use .biz (don't see that happening!) - add some anti-forgery methods to your klepp.biz DNS? (DKIM1 and spf1 specifically) *
* Yeah, not sure on that, it seems the original sender is neo.lan ([85.126.97.210]). You’d have to send me a mail directly for me to dig through the headers with any accuracy.
Best, Michael
More info from headers you send: Content analysis details: (1.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Content analysis details: (1.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.2 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different 0.8 KAM_INFOUSMEBIZ Prevalent use of .info|.us|.me|.me.uk|.biz|xyz|id|rocks|life domains in spam/malware 1.0 KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY Sending domain does not have any anti-forgery methods -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager X-Spam-Flag: NO
Hi Michael!
Anno domini 2021 Mon, 30 Aug 14:02:19 -0500 Michael scripsit:
On Monday 30 August 2021 11:28:46 am Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2021 Mon, 30 Aug 18:16:06 +0200 Slávek Banko scripsit:
On Monday 30 of August 2021 18:10:47 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Don't know why but I'm getting mail bounces from the list: Anybody knows why?
it seems that a substantial reason is that your domain got on blacklist. Here is a complete listing of RSPAMD rating:
Thank you. So nothing I can do but wait :)
Hi Nik,
Naw, just go un-blacklist your email domain.
RSPAMD_URIBL(4.50)[klepp.biz:email];
There are plenty of completely free web sites that'll show you how (so don't get sucked into paying some ashhat). After you find an aggregator who'll give you a report on all the different white/black list services, you'll usually need to go to the ones that blacklist you directly to un-blacklist yourself. Startpage, DuckDuckGo, etc... will get you where you need.
From what I can tell the problem is only on tde mailing list. Blacklist check did not show any blacklisting for my maildomain. So without knowing what triggered RSPAMD_URIBL I have no chance of resolving this.
Nik
Per the below you could also:
- not use .biz (don't see that happening!)
- add some anti-forgery methods to your klepp.biz DNS? (DKIM1 and spf1
specifically) *
- Yeah, not sure on that, it seems the original sender is neo.lan
([85.126.97.210]). You’d have to send me a mail directly for me to dig through the headers with any accuracy.
Best, Michael
More info from headers you send: Content analysis details: (1.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Content analysis details: (1.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.2 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different 0.8 KAM_INFOUSMEBIZ Prevalent use of .info|.us|.me|.me.uk|.biz|xyz|id|rocks|life domains in spam/malware 1.0 KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY Sending domain does not have any anti-forgery methods -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager X-Spam-Flag: NO
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On Monday 30 August 2021 12:28:02 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi Michael!
Anno domini 2021 Mon, 30 Aug 14:02:19 -0500
Michael scripsit:
On Monday 30 August 2021 11:28:46 am Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2021 Mon, 30 Aug 18:16:06 +0200 Slávek Banko scripsit:
On Monday 30 of August 2021 18:10:47 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Don't know why but I'm getting mail bounces from the list: Anybody knows why?
it seems that a substantial reason is that your domain got on blacklist. Here is a complete listing of RSPAMD rating:
Thank you. So nothing I can do but wait :)
Hi Nik,
Naw, just go un-blacklist your email domain.
RSPAMD_URIBL(4.50)[klepp.biz:email];
There are plenty of completely free web sites that'll show you how (so don't get sucked into paying some ashhat). After you find an aggregator who'll give you a report on all the different white/black list services, you'll usually need to go to the ones that blacklist you directly to un-blacklist yourself. Startpage, DuckDuckGo, etc... will get you where you need.
From what I can tell the problem is only on tde mailing list. Blacklist check did not show any blacklisting for my maildomain. So without knowing what triggered RSPAMD_URIBL I have no chance of resolving this.
Nik
Per the below you could also:
- not use .biz (don't see that happening!)
- add some anti-forgery methods to your klepp.biz DNS? (DKIM1 and spf1
specifically) *
- Yeah, not sure on that, it seems the original sender is neo.lan
([85.126.97.210]). You’d have to send me a mail directly for me to dig through the headers with any accuracy.
Best, Michael
More info from headers you send: Content analysis details: (1.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Content analysis details: (1.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.2 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different 0.8 KAM_INFOUSMEBIZ Prevalent use of .info|.us|.me|.me.uk|.biz|xyz|id|rocks|life domains in spam/malware 1.0 KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY Sending domain does not have any anti-forgery methods -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager X-Spam-Flag: NO
The same thing happened to me awhile back, maybe six months ago or more. I wondered what was going on, but after waiting awhile, then posting and getting answers from others, I surmised that I had not yet been banned.
But my email address got flagged (somewhere else online, I forget now) as apparently a known spammer; which is funny, because I hardly use email at all compared to almost anybody else I know.
Assuming that my email address hasn't been hijacked (and nobody has complained to me about getting spammed), I am left to suppose that spam filters get a lot of false positives, or something like that.
Bill
On Mon August 30 2021 12:28:02 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
From what I can tell the problem is only on tde mailing list. Blacklist check did not show any blacklisting for my maildomain. So without knowing what triggered RSPAMD_URIBL I have no chance of resolving this.
Hi Nik,
What I'm going to write has some information that might seem private but it is in fact all from the headers of your email and therefore already widely published.
As best I can determine your IP (85.126.97.210), domain (klepp.biz), and mail server (172.31.216.41) are clear. However that first mail server redirects your mail to a second mail server.
The domain of both mail servers (upcmail.net) and the second mail server's IP (62.179.121.136) are both listed on various UCEPROTECT RBL lists.
UCEPROTECT blocks whole networks which originate a lot of spam, so you're being blocked either because of spam through upcmail.net or (more likely) spam from other hosts on the same net as the second mail server.
I'm a postmaster and I don't use UCEPROTECT because (a) it has a lot of false positives and (b) I've been bitten by UCEPROTECT when another VPS at one of the hosting services I use had sent some spam.
You could try:
(a) Asking Slávek if there's anyway he can ignore UCEPROTECT and aggregates that use UCEPROTECT. (b) Working through http://www.uceprotect.net/ to try to remove the listings (but they will probably return). (c) Moving to a different mail server that is less tolerant of outbound spam.
--Mike
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