On Saturday, February 07, 2015 11:51:51 AM Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:

Am Samstag, 7. Februar 2015 schrieb baho-utot@columbus.rr.com:

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Has anyone tried to build trinity for FreeBSD ?

I am currently building a new system based on FreeBSD and I would like to attempt to build trinity.

I would like to create ports build if I am successful with the build.

I am studying the build from source instructions posted on the website. I believe that this will be a difficult one as it appears that trinity favors Linux.

The following appears to be problem areas:

Should be installed in /use/local/<whatever>.

Scripts contained in the source files have !#/bin/bash.

 Do the scripts contain bash-ims?
 FreeBSD used the bourne shell not bash IE #!/bin/sh.

FreeBSD uses clang instead of gcc.

FreeBSD has dropped HAL in xorg. udev not supported.

I am not intending to use linux compatibility ports, as I am looking to run this on the FreeBSD bare metal.

Comments?

Hi!

I'm working on FreeBSD, too.

you'll need to install: gcc47 (or newer), bash, cmake to get started.

I have cmake and I intend to use clang as the c compiler

There are awful bashisms in all cmake ports, you'll need a syslink from /bin/bash to /usr/local/bin/bash. Also you'll need symlinks from "gcc" and "g++" to your actual compiler.

I am going to patch the build scripts to use /bin/sh

tqt3 and tqtinterface builds without bigger problem using gcc or clang.

At the moment I'm stuck with alsa at building arts :-/

I have crossed that bridge before

I install anything in /opt/trinity and ignore /usr/local/ till I run into a problem.

I will use /usr/local as I intend to create "ports" make files etc

HAL in form of "hald" isl supported on FreeBDS 10.1, udev is "devd". I do not see any sign of them getting dropped.

I wouldn't say devd is udev, it works like udev did, but it is not udev. devd predates udev, check the source.

Nik

Am Samstag, 7. Februar 2015 schrieb Timothy Pearson:

What does FreeBSD recommend as a HAL replacement? udev was the closest I could find, and even then I had to implement huge chunks of HAL functionality on top of udev, udisks, upower, etc. Surely they aren't suggesting applications natively probe the hardware; that would be ridiculous and never supported by TDE.

Tim

The handbook says: Xorg uses HAL.

https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html

Nik

On 02/07/2015 14:45, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:

Am Samstag, 7. Februar 2015 schrieb Timothy Pearson:

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What does FreeBSD recommend as a HAL replacement? udev was the closest I could find, and even then I had to implement huge chunks of HAL functionality on top of udev, udisks, upower, etc. Surely they aren't suggesting applications natively probe the hardware; that would be ridiculous and never supported by TDE.

Tim

The handbook says: Xorg uses HAL.

https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html

Nik

That is incorrect. HAL is only needed if you want to create an xorg.conf

$ pkg info xorg-server xorg-server-1.14.7_1,1 Name : xorg-server Version : 1.14.7_1,1 Installed on : Fri Feb 6 21:33:03 EST 2015 Origin : x11-servers/xorg-server Architecture : freebsd:10:x86:64 Prefix : /usr/local Categories : x11-servers Licenses : MIT Maintainer : x11@FreeBSD.org WWW : http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/xorg Comment : X.Org X server and related programs Options : DEVD : on HAL : off SUID : on Shared Libs required: libpixman-1.so.0 libpciaccess.so.0 libdrm.so.2 libXfont.so.1 libXdmcp.so.6 libXau.so.6 Shared Libs provided: libwfb.so libvgahw.so libvbe.so libshadowfb.so libshadow.so libint10.so libglx.so libfbdevhw.so libfb.so libexa.so Annotations : repo_type : binary repository : pcbsd-major Flat size : 4.59MiB Description : This package contains the X.Org X server and some associated programs.

On 02/08/2015 09:36, office@klepp.biz wrote:

Am Sonntag, 8. Februar 2015 schrieb baho-utot@columbus.rr.com:

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On 02/07/2015 14:45, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:

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Am Samstag, 7. Februar 2015 schrieb Timothy Pearson:

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What does FreeBSD recommend as a HAL replacement? udev was the closest I could find, and even then I had to implement huge chunks of HAL functionality on top of udev, udisks, upower, etc. Surely they aren't suggesting applications natively probe the hardware; that would be ridiculous and never supported by TDE.

Tim

The handbook says: Xorg uses HAL.

https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html

Nik

That is incorrect. HAL is only needed if you want to create an xorg.conf

$ pkg info xorg-server xorg-server-1.14.7_1,1 Name : xorg-server Version : 1.14.7_1,1 Installed on : Fri Feb 6 21:33:03 EST 2015 Origin : x11-servers/xorg-server Architecture : freebsd:10:x86:64 Prefix : /usr/local Categories : x11-servers Licenses : MIT Maintainer : x11@FreeBSD.org WWW : http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/xorg Comment : X.Org X server and related programs Options : DEVD : on HAL : off SUID : on Shared Libs required: libpixman-1.so.0 libpciaccess.so.0 libdrm.so.2 libXfont.so.1 libXdmcp.so.6 libXau.so.6 Shared Libs provided: libwfb.so libvgahw.so libvbe.so libshadowfb.so libshadow.so libint10.so libglx.so libfbdevhw.so libfb.so libexa.so Annotations : repo_type : binary repository : pcbsd-major Flat size : 4.59MiB Description : This package contains the X.Org X server and some associated programs.

Funny, HAL is not needed for the generation of a static xorg.conf, either. Even Xorg autoconfiguration works without HAL.

I have filed a bugreport, https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=197411

Nik

Xorg has not needed xorg.conf for quite some time now. When I was using archlinux before they moved to systemd it xorg.conf was not needed.

HAL ( and DBUS ) is required for KDE4 just not for xorg.

On 02/07/2015 14:12, Timothy Pearson wrote:

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Am Samstag, 7. Februar 2015 schrieb baho-utot@columbus.rr.com:

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Has anyone tried to build trinity for FreeBSD ?

I am currently building a new system based on FreeBSD and I would like to attempt to build trinity.

I would like to create ports build if I am successful with the build.

I am studying the build from source instructions posted on the website. I believe that this will be a difficult one as it appears that trinity favors Linux.

The following appears to be problem areas:

Should be installed in /use/local/<whatever>.

Scripts contained in the source files have !#/bin/bash. Do the scripts contain bash-ims? FreeBSD used the bourne shell not bash IE #!/bin/sh.

FreeBSD uses clang instead of gcc.

FreeBSD has dropped HAL in xorg. udev not supported.

I am not intending to use linux compatibility ports, as I am looking to run this on the FreeBSD bare metal.

Comments?

Hi!

I'm working on FreeBSD, too.

you'll need to install: gcc47 (or newer), bash, cmake to get started.

There are awful bashisms in all cmake ports, you'll need a syslink from /bin/bash to /usr/local/bin/bash. Also you'll need symlinks from "gcc" and "g++" to your actual compiler.

tqt3 and tqtinterface builds without bigger problem using gcc or clang.

At the moment I'm stuck with alsa at building arts :-/

I install anything in /opt/trinity and ignore /usr/local/ till I run into a problem.

HAL in form of "hald" isl supported on FreeBDS 10.1, udev is "devd". I do not see any sign of them getting dropped.

Nik

What does FreeBSD recommend as a HAL replacement? udev was the closest I could find, and even then I had to implement huge chunks of HAL functionality on top of udev, udisks, upower, etc. Surely they aren't suggesting applications natively probe the hardware; that would be ridiculous and never supported by TDE.

They use devd, it looks like ( to me ) that HAL will be removed in the future.