Hi Alexandre! This looks really nice :-) OT: as you are testing KDE5 now, does it still need that semantic stuff to work propperly? Nik Hi, Of course, it has to look nice! Plasma 5 has removed much of the KDE4 nonsense. Most of the framework has been reworked to be much better than the KDE4 equivalent. It is also more responsive, and starts faster. TDE will really have to do something to stay in the race. -Alexandre

On Monday 04 January 2016 01:25:29 Felix Miata wrote: Thank you, Felix. I don't want TDE to compete with KDE. I like TDE _because_ it is not like KDE and its ilk. If you don't like what TDE looks like, Alexandre, as you see you can easily change it. That is its greatest strength. It lets you choose. As for start-up speed, that would not be _my_ choice for the focus of our developers' time with so few of them there. It isn't all that fast, but nor is it slow. Lisi

Thank you, Felix. I don't want TDE to compete with KDE. I like TDE _because_ it is not like KDE and its ilk. If you don't like what TDE looks like, Alexandre, as you see you can easily change it. That is its greatest strength. It lets you choose. As for start-up speed, that would not be _my_ choice for the focus of our developers' time with so few of them there. It isn't all that fast, but nor is it slow. Lisi Hi, First of all, 2016 would be so much greater here if everyone could stay respectful of what other's are saying, and of other's work. Choose your words. I use it on Kubuntu 15.10. After all the updates installed, it works very well on my Core 2 Duo with 2gb of ram, from the 2008 or so era. -Alexandre

What do you object to in my words? It was not YOUR words. I know you did great efforts in 2015 on this. It is good Which one? KDE5? KDE Plasma 5 is now default on Kubuntu 15.10 I haven't tested. Perhaps Felix hasn't either. But why does it matter? Why must TDE constantly compete? Why is it a competition? Each person uses what her or she likes. If you prefer KDE5, I see no reason why you shouldn't use KDE5. Why does TDE have to become like it?? If KDE5 is now faster than TDE on similar hardware, good for it. Yes, everyone uses what he-she likes. I think you didn't understanded what I wrote in the way I meant it. Plasma 5 is overall much faster and responsive than KDE4 on the same hardware. TDE is more responsive (when it doesn't lockup) than KDE4 and Plasma 5, but TDE does take more time to boot than Plasma 5. MS-DOS isn't much used anymore (as in not competitive), because it does not fill the needs of most computer's users out there. This is just an example. Difference and individuality are part of what Open Source and Free Software are all about. Lisi Yes, differences and individuality is part of open source world, but we should all (all) be respectful for other's work and other individuals. -Alexandre

On Monday 04 January 2016 15:02:43 Lisi Reisz wrote: I am trying right clicking as I go for the spell checker. It produces some bizarre results if I don't check more carefully than I usually do. :-( Lisi

On Monday 04 January 2016 16.40:20 midi-pascal wrote: (...) I use Linux on Desktops. I don't let the computer run when I'm not at home / not working (that would mean using energy for nothing 80% of the time). Another situation is Linux on a laptop (I don't use laptops so often, so I shut them down when not). This being said, boot time was almost never a big deal - it's so little compared to use time. I loose more time when the system hangs, or some process uses all the power, or when I need five minutes to figure out how some "genius" managed to redesign a command that worked perfectly in the old way. Everyone should keep an old machine at home. I've spent some time with an Amstrad PC 1512 recently and I can tell you my Linux machine is _very_ fast compared to this :) It was fun to run these old programs however! Thierry