William Morder wrote:
When I was a child, I used to think that the music and the announcers and other voices somehow lived inside the radio and TV. Then when I got a bit older, I came to understand that they sent out their broadcasts from a studio, a building that was some distance away. Since I had seen television shows like Ed Sullivan, with musicians playing their songs, I knew that they had instruments and equipment, but I was puzzled about how they could change so quickly from one group to another. My theory was that they must have several different rooms, and that some music group would be playing in one room while another would be setting up in another, and so on.
This is exactly why women tend to humanize us lonely bachelors, and make them presentable in public, and to brighten up a home; it has something to do with that tendency. The world would be a very dull place without a little irrationality to make us bounce through life, rather than scraping along, in deadly seriousness, freed from superstiton, but weighed down by the irresistible force of gravity.
I would say it is simply pragmatics over mother instinct - it's just nature - be it "God made us so" or Nature or Evolution.
regards
Silly boys.
i deeply apologize for having started this thread, which i foolishly thought might have something to do with tde.
the early response, which also had to do with tde, was not seem correct for my system: right clicking the little pile of icons at the right in kicker did produce a menu, one item of which was to add an applet. but when clicked the list provived did not include kweather. nor, sadly, the little applet for monitoring battery level. as to the latter, which is more important to me, i did some poking around and got to the services manager but found no immediate way of starting klaptop or of adding it to the panel. kweather is a frippery, but battery level isn't.
so at the risk of sparking another wild tangent, i ask: how might i get the laptop daemon and battery monitor to start at login and appear on kicker?
thanks in advance.
dep
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On Tuesday 03 July 2018, dep wrote:
i deeply apologize for having started this thread, which i foolishly thought might have something to do with tde.
the early response, which also had to do with tde, was not seem correct for my system: right clicking the little pile of icons at the right in kicker did produce a menu, one item of which was to add an applet. but when clicked the list provived did not include kweather. nor, sadly, the little applet for monitoring battery level. as to the latter, which is more important to me, i did some poking around and got to the services manager but found no immediate way of starting klaptop or of adding it to the panel. kweather is a frippery, but battery level isn't.
so at the risk of sparking another wild tangent, i ask: how might i get the laptop daemon and battery monitor to start at login and appear on kicker?
thanks in advance.
dep
I think what's you're looking for is the trinity-tdepowersave. You may want to install trinity-tdeutils which includes "klaptopdeamon" which is what I think you are looking for. Make sure you have all that installed, and it's a system tray item, not a applet.
Make sure you have the package for kweather installed too, which is trinity-kweather.
Kate
On July 3, 2018 2:40 PM, Kate Draven borglabs4@gmail.com wrote:
I think what's you're looking for is the trinity-tdepowersave. You may want to
install trinity-tdeutils which includes "klaptopdeamon" which is what I think
you are looking for. Make sure you have all that installed, and it's a system
tray item, not a applet.
okay, no. it's tedutils-trinity, tdepowersave-trinity, and klaptop-trinity.
Make sure you have the package for kweather installed too, which is
trinity-kweather.
no, it's kweather-trinity. but thanks.
now, returning to my question: how do i get these running on my machine?
dep
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On Tuesday 03 July 2018 14:12:43 dep wrote:
On July 3, 2018 2:40 PM, Kate Draven borglabs4@gmail.com wrote:
I think what's you're looking for is the trinity-tdepowersave. You may want to
install trinity-tdeutils which includes "klaptopdeamon" which is what I think
you are looking for. Make sure you have all that installed, and it's a system
tray item, not a applet.
okay, no. it's tedutils-trinity, tdepowersave-trinity, and klaptop-trinity.
Make sure you have the package for kweather installed too, which is
trinity-kweather.
no, it's kweather-trinity. but thanks.
now, returning to my question: how do i get these running on my machine?
dep
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I answered this before the thread got sucked into a group vortex of silliness.
That item, kweather-trinity, is an app that you can add to your panel. Right-click on the panel to unlock, then right-click again and you will see a menu of choices, add applets, add applications, etc.
kweather is listed in the applets.
Once added to your panel, you can change its placement; look for the little arrows either directly above the icon, or sometimes to the left. Click on them and choose to move the item(s) in the panel to wherever you want. Until you lock the panel, they might jump round a bit and drive you nuts; I found that even after I had locked the panel, I had items moving with a mind of their own. But after I waited through some reboots, it settled down nicely.
That's why I don't mess with it now. Once I get it set, I leave it alone. I believe that Nik or somebody else has confirmed this, too.
Bill
dep wrote:
now, returning to my question: how do i get these running on my machine?
if it is applet just right click the task bar and select "add applet" - find the applet you are interested in and thats it (example kmoon)
if it is docked application just start the application and it will dock in the task bar (example tdepowersave or kgpg or kmix)
question do you have the taskbar? your questions make me think there is something wrong at your end
regards
On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 5:34 PM, deloptes deloptes@gmail.com wrote:
dep wrote: > now, returning to my question: how do i get these running on my machine? if it is applet just right click the task bar and select "add applet" - find the applet you are interested in and thats it (example kmoon) if it is docked application just start the application and it will dock in the task bar (example tdepowersave or kgpg or kmix) question do you have the taskbar? your questions make me think there is something wrong at your end
yes, of course i have the taskbar running. for, let's see, the second or third time, kweather *does not* appear in the applet list alongside kmoon and the others. doesn't. isn't there. yes, the package is installed. and no, that's of no real significance. what is significant is that i cannot find where or how to get klaptop's daemon running, because the information it renders is important. and yes, i have installed it. it is listed as a service that is not running. i need to convert it to a service that *is* running.
dep
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On Tuesday 03 July 2018 14:43:59 dep wrote:
On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 5:34 PM, deloptes deloptes@gmail.com wrote:
dep wrote: > now, returning to my question: how do i get these running on my machine? if it is applet just right click the task bar and select "add applet" - find the applet you are interested in and thats it (example kmoon) if it is docked application just start the application and it will dock in the task bar (example tdepowersave or kgpg or kmix) question do you have the taskbar? your questions make me think there is something wrong at your end
yes, of course i have the taskbar running. for, let's see, the second or third time, kweather *does not* appear in the applet list alongside kmoon and the others. doesn't. isn't there. yes, the package is installed. and no, that's of no real significance. what is significant is that i cannot find where or how to get klaptop's daemon running, because the information it renders is important. and yes, i have installed it. it is listed as a service that is not running. i need to convert it to a service that *is* running.
dep
Go hack yourself, then. Good luck.
Bill
dep wrote:
On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 5:34 PM, deloptes deloptes@gmail.com wrote:
dep wrote: > now, returning to my question: how do i get these running on my machine? if it is applet just right click the task bar and select "add applet" - find the applet you are interested in and thats it (example kmoon) if it is docked application just start the application and it will dock in the task bar (example tdepowersave or kgpg or kmix) question do you have the taskbar? your questions make me think there is something wrong at your end
yes, of course i have the taskbar running. for, let's see, the second or third time, kweather *does not* appear in the applet list alongside kmoon and the others. doesn't. isn't there. yes, the package is installed. and no, that's of no real significance. what is significant is that i cannot find where or how to get klaptop's daemon running, because the information it renders is important. and yes, i have installed it. it is listed as a service that is not running. i need to convert it to a service that *is* running.
dep
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$ ps -A | grep weat 4085 ? 00:00:13 kweatherservice $ which kweatherservice /opt/trinity/bin/kweatherservice
I think it is this one
for the klaptop I don't know - I gave it away but I recall I was using only the tdepowersave
On Tue July 3 2018 14:43:59 dep wrote:
... what is significant is that i cannot find where or how to get klaptop's daemon running, because the information it renders is important. and yes, i have installed it. it is listed as a service that is not running. i need to convert it to a service that *is* running.
Hi Dep,
Please try Trinity Control Center / Peripherals / Laptop Battery / Start Battery Monitor.
If the last step doesn't do anything try clicking on the other tabs and they may tell you that your kernel is missing some ACPI options.
A lot of this functionality has moved from /proc/acpi to /sys and this application may not yet be updated.
In related news I suspect that although it starts TDEPowerSave it is no longer actually controlling much.
--Mike
On Tuesday 03 July 2018, dep wrote:
On July 3, 2018 2:40 PM, Kate Draven borglabs4@gmail.com wrote:
I think what's you're looking for is the trinity-tdepowersave. You may want to
install trinity-tdeutils which includes "klaptopdeamon" which is what I think
you are looking for. Make sure you have all that installed, and it's a system
tray item, not a applet.
okay, no. it's tedutils-trinity, tdepowersave-trinity, and klaptop-trinity.
Make sure you have the package for kweather installed too, which is
trinity-kweather.
no, it's kweather-trinity. but thanks.
now, returning to my question: how do i get these running on my machine?
dep
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I have them showing trinity-appx here. hmm
On Tuesday 03 July 2018 14:27:09 deloptes wrote:
Kate Draven wrote:
Make sure you have the package for kweather installed too, which is trinity-kweather.
please be precise - many people and perhaps generations will read this!
package is called kweather-trinity
Now we are writing not just for other members of the mailing list, but for Posterity, as well? That's too much pressure!
However, precision, when possible, is much appreciated by all; except that we ought to remember that the names (especially for tde and trinity packages) sometimes get changed round in just that manner. It will take a group effort to keep us all up-to-date.
Bill
On July 3, 2018 6:08 PM, William Morder doctor_contendo@zoho.com wrote:
However, precision, when possible, is much appreciated by all; except that we
ought to remember that the names (especially for tde and trinity
packages) sometimes get changed round in just that manner. It will take a
group effort to keep us all up-to-date.
yes, precision is important and when it is not possible then people should shut the hell up and not make background noise that obscures valid information from those for whom precision *is* possible.
if i need to know something the command for which is "ls -r" and someone pipes up and says the command is "rm -r", it takes more than a "group effort" and keeping "up-to-date." giving package names that do not exist does no one any good. offering guesses does no one any good.
and people going on as if they were the worms in "men in black" actually does harm.
dep
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