I am about to install Trinity on Squeeze (Debian 6.0.4) for a client. I have a complete copy of /home on the old version: Lenny (Debian 5). The end of security support for Lenny precipitated this.
I am anxious about settings and data, and am hoping that TDE has reached the stage where it is truly usable by the non-expert user. My husband was due to be the guinea-pig, poor man, but was using LXDE during the mirror problems and opted to stay where he was.
I installed Squeeze and TDE for myself, but managed to mess up my mail in KMail, and retreated (temporarily) back to Lenny and KDE 3.5.10.
So - any advice? The KDE configurations will almost certainly be a problem. Any advise on how to rename them _before_ I mess everything up.
I have been Googling. It wasn't reassuring! See, e.g., http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/31333/ . It was also not much use.
I am very happy to RTFM if some kind soul would point me to the FM. I can't find it. And I should be delighted at LMGTFY - my Google-foo, in so far as it ever existed, seems to have deserted me!
Thanks, Lisi
On Friday 24 February 2012 12:49:54 Lisi wrote:
I am about to install Trinity on Squeeze (Debian 6.0.4) for a client. I have a complete copy of /home on the old version: Lenny (Debian 5). The end of security support for Lenny precipitated this.
I am anxious about settings and data, and am hoping that TDE has reached the stage where it is truly usable by the non-expert user. My husband was due to be the guinea-pig, poor man, but was using LXDE during the mirror problems and opted to stay where he was.
I installed Squeeze and TDE for myself, but managed to mess up my mail in KMail, and retreated (temporarily) back to Lenny and KDE 3.5.10.
So - any advice? The KDE configurations will almost certainly be a problem. Any advise on how to rename them _before_ I mess everything up.
I have been Googling. It wasn't reassuring! See, e.g., http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/31333/ . It was also not much use.
I am very happy to RTFM if some kind soul would point me to the FM. I can't find it. And I should be delighted at LMGTFY - my Google-foo, in so far as it ever existed, seems to have deserted me!
Thanks, Lisi
From having dug about inside some of the KDE/TDE configuration files you may hit one or two problems but I don't think that any of them should be too serious or difficult to work out.
Take a backup copy of your .kde3 folder, especially the share folder as this is the one that holds most of the user's settings. Once you've installed TDE, but before you try logging into the user, try copying the .kde3/share folder into the .trinity folder i.e. ~/.trinity/share, and then try logging into the user (presumably you'll be doing this as root so make sure you change the owner on the copied folders and files afterwards otherwise the user won't be able to read/write to them).
The location of the kmail base folder/directory seems to have changed several times in the past; on my systems it used to be called 'Mail' and was simply placed in the user's home folder but in later versions of KDE3 and in TDE I think it was moved into the .kde3/.trinity folder (where the KDE/TDE settings files live). Once you've logged into the user, but before starting kmail, edit the kmail configuration file ~/.trinity/share/config/kmailrc and search for the string "[General]" and then within that block of params find the line that starts "folders". I've edited this to pick up my old '~/Mail' folder so now it reads: "folders[$e]=$HOME/Mail" (I don't know where the '[$e]' string portion came from - I didn't add it when I originally edited this file - it may have occurred when I upgraded to TDE V3.5.13 and then downgraded back to TDE V3.5.12).
Personally, I wouldn't install TDE V3.5.13 yet but use TDE V3.5.12 instead. Although the TDE instructions seem to imply that V3.5.12 is only for Lenny V3.5.12 was the standard TDE release for Squeeze until V3.5.13 was released; as I mentioned earlier, I updated to V3.5.13 from V3.5.12 on Squeeze and have downgraded back to V3.5.12 again.
LeeE
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Doing a cp on .trinity or .kde should suffice as a backup. As for what changed, I'm not sure, but as long as you have he backup, it wouldn't hurt to try upgrading to 3.5.13.
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On Friday 24 February 2012 14:27:13 Kristopher John Gamrat wrote:
As for what changed, I'm not sure, but as long as you have he backup, it wouldn't hurt to try upgrading to 3.5.13.
It seems at first glance to have failed, but all may not be lost! In addition to a weird background at login, which worked, or seemed to, I now have the error message: <quote> call to lnusertemp failed (temporary directories full?). Check your installation. </quote>
The first time I acknowledged that, it returned to a slightly less mangled login screen, login again worked and I again got the same error message, but this time the system shut down.
Any ideas? My current idea is to say: "that was nice while it lasted", and start again. I think that I may reinstall and copy the data files over individually. But I should be glad of a few more opinions on the respective merits of TDE 3.5.12 and TDE 3.5.13 on Squeeze. On the fcae of it, I have had my try and now should go for 12, but I have 3.5.13 running on Squeeze in Virtula Box and it is great. It is, however, relevant, I imagine, that I have made no attempt to copy any data into it.
Thanks, Lisi
On Friday 24 February 2012 19:18:44 Lisi wrote:
But I should be glad of a few more opinions on the respective merits of TDE 3.5.12 and TDE 3.5.13 on Squeeze.
3.5.13 runs quite well on squeeze, here, whereas 3.5.12 was more of a PITA, flash-plugin always crashing, annoying repeatedly certificate warnings in konqueror, etc.
werner
On Friday 24 February 2012 01:18:44 pm Lisi wrote:
On Friday 24 February 2012 14:27:13 Kristopher John Gamrat wrote:
As for what changed, I'm not sure, but as long as you have he backup, it wouldn't hurt to try upgrading to 3.5.13.
It seems at first glance to have failed, but all may not be lost! In addition to a weird background at login, which worked, or seemed to, I now have the error message:
<quote> call to lnusertemp failed (temporary directories full?). Check your installation. </quote>
The first time I acknowledged that, it returned to a slightly less mangled login screen, login again worked and I again got the same error message, but this time the system shut down.
Any ideas? My current idea is to say: "that was nice while it lasted", and start again. I think that I may reinstall and copy the data files over individually. But I should be glad of a few more opinions on the respective merits of TDE 3.5.12 and TDE 3.5.13 on Squeeze. On the fcae of it, I have had my try and now should go for 12, but I have 3.5.13 running on Squeeze in Virtula Box and it is great. It is, however, relevant, I imagine, that I have made no attempt to copy any data into it.
It looks like it may be telling you that your /tmp/ is full. Try logging out and doing:
---- rm -rf /tmp/* # sudo or root rm -rf ~/.cache ~/.DCOP* # as user you're trying to test with ----
Log back in and see if it works.