2 May
2016
2 May
'16
11:31 a.m.
Kate Draven wrote:
While that is the primary issue, even relatively simple sites (e.g.
Wikipedia) have rendering issues.
andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
I agree, konqueror is an essential tool for me. I've written tons of
servicemenus, to image,audio video conversion etc. All the sites I
want to go to work well in konq. It's the sites that are overloaded
with java scripts, flash etc that give it problems. On Monday 02 May 2016 13:09:56 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Monday 02 May 2016 12:00:51 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
> > I think that Konqueror is not a navigator
> It used to be a superb one. For years it was my browser of
choice.
I'm asking myself how you can consider that
Konqueror
"is a superb one" navigator.
It depends on your definition of "navigator". Almost everything I do
on my PC is done using Konqueror as a navigator to
view/play/edit/run
files/programs, local and remote - things no other web browser or
file
manager can do. While Konqueror is essentially my desktop and could
get me anyhere I want/need to go, sometimes the menu or taskbar are
faster/easier.
That said, it is frustrating that I can only use Konqueror to view
websites I know it can handle. I still use Konqueror as a gateway
browser ('open with Chromium') because there are enough of my
regular
sites that still work in Konqueror and I prefer the
simpler/depreciated Google interface. Maybe I'm stubborn, but
Iceweasel and Chromium are pigs and not something to leave running
when you're using a Pi2 PC.
...It's probably a pipe dream, but it would be real nice if there
were
a way that I could have a whitelist of sites that would open in
Konqueror with all others automatically opening in an external
browser. It's safe gateway browser though. I have
java and java script turned off in konq so I can examine a website
before opening it in FF, SM, Opera. I don't use Chromium (Chrome)
because I don't trust google anymore. That and it is a pig on
resources.
Yeah, I have a hard time with anything Google these days (scary
behemoth), but I've come to prefer Chromium over Iceweasel and haven't
found anything else that works reliably (though it has been a while
since I've used Opera).
In time I'm sure webkit or the like can be added
to konq returning it
to a great web browser as well. Patience in the key here.
I wish I had your optimism, I'm really amazed how little traction TDE
has, even more so Konqueror - thanks in part to the Dolphin over
Konqueror boondoggle. I don't know the current state, but the
Konqueror webkit engine (option in KDE4?) wasn't reliably better. In
any case, it's a welcome surprise to hear that someone else still
finds Konqueror indispensable.
2 May
2 May
12:15 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Plans on updating Konqueror?
The latest Opera works very well. I don't think it is lighter than chromium
as it now shares the same engine but overall it works very nicely. The
latest beta incorporates adblocking and VPN. The adblocking seems to work
pretty well but the VPN is still buggy.
On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Dave Lers <lists(a)dalrun.com> wrote:
Kate Draven wrote:
While that is the primary issue, even relatively simple sites (e.g.
Wikipedia) have rendering issues.
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andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
I agree, konqueror is an essential tool for me. I've written tons of
servicemenus, to image,audio video conversion etc. All the sites I
want to go to work well in konq. It's the sites that are overloaded
with java scripts, flash etc that give it problems. On Monday 02 May 2016 13:09:56 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Monday 02 May 2016 12:00:51 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
> > I think that Konqueror is not a navigator
> It used to be a superb one. For years it was my browser of
choice.
I'm asking myself how you can consider that
Konqueror
"is a superb one" navigator.
It depends on your definition of "navigator". Almost everything I do
on my PC is done using Konqueror as a navigator to
view/play/edit/run
files/programs, local and remote - things no other web browser or
file
manager can do. While Konqueror is essentially my desktop and could
get me anyhere I want/need to go, sometimes the menu or taskbar are
faster/easier.
That said, it is frustrating that I can only use Konqueror to view
websites I know it can handle. I still use Konqueror as a gateway
browser ('open with Chromium') because there are enough of my
regular
sites that still work in Konqueror and I prefer the
simpler/depreciated Google interface. Maybe I'm stubborn, but
Iceweasel and Chromium are pigs and not something to leave running
when you're using a Pi2 PC.
...It's probably a pipe dream, but it would be real nice if there
were
a way that I could have a whitelist of sites that would open in
Konqueror with all others automatically opening in an external
browser. It's safe gateway browser though. I have
java and java script turned off in konq so I can examine a website
before opening it in FF, SM, Opera. I don't use Chromium (Chrome)
because I don't trust google anymore. That and it is a pig on
resources.
Yeah, I have a hard time with anything Google these days (scary
behemoth), but I've come to prefer Chromium over Iceweasel and haven't
found anything else that works reliably (though it has been a while
since I've used Opera).
In time I'm sure webkit or the like can be
added to konq returning it
to a great web browser as well. Patience in the key here.
I wish I had your optimism, I'm really amazed how little traction TDE
has, even more so Konqueror - thanks in part to the Dolphin over
Konqueror boondoggle. I don't know the current state, but the
Konqueror webkit engine (option in KDE4?) wasn't reliably better. In
any case, it's a welcome surprise to hear that someone else still
finds Konqueror indispensable.
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1:08 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Plans on updating Konqueror?
On Monday 02 May 2016 19:31:47 Dave Lers wrote:
it's a welcome surprise to hear that someone else
still
finds Konqueror indispensable.
I do too - but I no longer use it as my web-browser of first choice, and this
saddens me. I would hate to live entirely without it. Something which
hasn't been mentioned yet, it is my favourite ftp client and server, since I
can simultaneously file-browse.
Lisi
11:51 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Plans on updating Konqueror?
Am Montag, 2. Mai 2016 schrieb Lisi Reisz:
On Monday 02 May 2016 19:31:47 Dave Lers wrote:
Konqueror with sftp:// (and kmail) are the reason I still have not converted my desktop to
FreeBSD :-) Well, for www I use iceweasel (with far too many plugins zu make it usable)
but for bookmarks I use konqueror ...
Nik
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it's a welcome surprise to hear that someone
else still
finds Konqueror indispensable.
I do too - but I no longer use it as my web-browser of first choice, and this
saddens me. I would hate to live entirely without it. Something which
hasn't been mentioned yet, it is my favourite ftp client and server, since I
can simultaneously file-browse.
Lisi
3 May
3 May
11:26 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Plans on updating Konqueror?
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Montag, 2. Mai 2016 schrieb Lisi Reisz:
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
On Monday 02 May 2016 19:31:47 Dave Lers wrote:
Konqueror with sftp:// (and kmail) are the reason I still have not
converted my desktop to FreeBSD :-) Well, for www I use iceweasel
(with far too many plugins zu make it usable) but for bookmarks I use
konqueror ... it's a welcome surprise to hear that someone
else still
finds Konqueror indispensable.
I do too - but I no longer use it as my web-browser of first choice,
and this
saddens me. I would hate to live entirely without it. Something
which
hasn't been mentioned yet, it is my favourite ftp client and server,
since I
can simultaneously file-browse.
Lisi Am Montag, 2. Mai 2016 schrieb Lisi Reisz:
Yes. Konqueror, along with most? TDE apps, makes local and remote
(sftp) activities pretty much indistinguishable. There's a bit more
lag when scrolling through large remote images (open with kuickview),
but I cannot tell the difference when playing remote videos with
omxplayer (raspbian app). Another handy thing that comes to mind is
Konqueror opening a remote file in Kate and then being able to click
the Current document folder button to get the remote file tree in the
Kate navigation panel (similar to a network tab bookmark in the
Konqueror navigation panel).
For some reason I've been using Squirrelmail (webmail via Konqueror)
for as long as I can remember. I also seem to be stuck on kpdf,
preferring to drag and drop pdf links to Konqueror (from iceweasel
works, from chromium doesn't).
While I really like the Konqueror bookmark interface - all the options
seem more readily available/easier, e.g. click-browse-click to add a
bookmark to the appropriate folder - I use a bookmarklet to add
important links to a private website (my Konqueror homepage)... When
you're browsing in Iceweasel, how do you add a bookmark in Konqueror?
On Monday 02 May 2016 19:31:47 Dave Lers wrote:
Konqueror with sftp:// (and kmail) are the reason I still have not
converted my desktop to FreeBSD :-) Well, for www I use iceweasel
(with far too many plugins zu make it usable) but for bookmarks I use
konqueror ... it's a welcome surprise to hear that someone
else still
finds Konqueror indispensable.
I do too - but I no longer use it as my web-browser of first choice,
and this
saddens me. I would hate to live entirely without it. Something
which
hasn't been mentioned yet, it is my favourite ftp client and server,
since I
can simultaneously file-browse.
Lisi
2:01 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Plans on updating Konqueror?
Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Dave Lers:
[...]
While I really like the Konqueror bookmark interface - all the options
seem more readily available/easier, e.g. click-browse-click to add a
bookmark to the appropriate folder - I use a bookmarklet to add
important links to a private website (my Konqueror homepage)... When
you're browsing in Iceweasel, how do you add a bookmark in Konqueror?
Mark the
address, RMB in conqueror window, <ctrl>B ... :-)
I use zim-clip plugin for iceweasel as I use zim-wiki for almost everything, but I
don't think it goes as a bookmark manager.
Nik
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