I don't have wireshark, I may install it later or tomorrow and see what it does. Meanwhile, if you search Google, you shall see that I am most definitely not the one to have that problem. It's been spotted in the wild many times. However, I suspect that the bug was introduced in the very last version(s) of KDE3 and fixed in KDE 4 only. I remember reading the bugtrack thread, the bug was considered fixed and closed. I guess the fix didn't find its way into Trinity. -- Luciano ES ************************** On Wednesday 23 February 2011, Mike Bird wrote: ************************

I downloaded and installed wireshark. Heck if I know how to use this thing. I was referred to the manual... Holy cow, it's huge. I don't have time to read a book so I can use this application. Even their "Sample Captures" page is useless to me: http://wiki.wireshark.org/SampleCaptures No e-mail. No e-mail. They have samples for all types of connections ever invented by Man, some of which I've never even heard of. But no e-mail. Or maybe it's hidden under some arcane technical name, so ordinary people like me will not find it. -- Luciano ES ************************** On Wednesday 23 February 2011, Luciano ES wrote: -- Luciano ES ************************** On Wednesday 23 February 2011, Mike Bird wrote: ************************

I've never used wireshark, though I'd think netstat would be enough? That spits out a list of anything currently using your network. Do a netstat (open a terminal and type netstat) before Kmail loads (if possible), when it first loads before it starts checking mail (if possible), when it is actually checking your mail, then several times following it finishing the mail check (including as son as it finishes checking). When it fails to work, do several netstats. It may help to paste everything to a text file to look through manually, these lists can be long if you've got a lot running on your machine. Post the kmail lines, and anything else you find suspicious. Perhaps something is clogging your network when it happens, or kmail is spawning a bunch of connections and isn't closing all of them. Also keep in mind that TDE is relatively young and very small (two devs, we really need some PR) and that the devs haven't had much of a chance to make a lot of releases. We are working on cmake porting (so we can use cmake rather than ./configure with a broken autotools) for 3.5.12, and it is a high priority for the devs to get the papercut bugs fixed, hopefully also for 3.5.13 but definitely for 3.5.14. Looks like you're a bit steamed, but there's only so much a small team can do at once, especially considering that KDE e.V. dropped KDE3 entirely. Also may be worth it to try a different distro that supports KDE3 or TDE, I know there are builds for Debian Lenny and Squeeze, so it may be worth it to install those with no GUI, add the TDE repos, and install from there. This will take a long time (X is large, and IIRC the TDE quickbuild server has limited throughput), but having no other KDE version present will help make sure there aren't any conflicts, and if you're not going to use GNOME or LXDE, this can save some space. -- Kris "Piki" Ark Linux Webmaster Trinity Desktop Environment Packager