Last Debian I installed on any of my own systems was Etch, until Friday, when I did a network minimal, then added TDE. In a broad sense, only one thing bothers me at this point, no sound. In openSUSE we have YaST2 for such things as sound configuration, but in Jessie/TDE I haven't found anything that helps. Trying to use Synaptic to figure it out isn't working, because its scroller is worthless - it has no buttons to scroll only a line at atime, and the scrollbar hopelessly overshoots trying to drag or click. TCC's Sound & Multimedia isn't producing any sound or any clues as to why not. SMplayer plays video but without sound. Is there some TDE tool not yet installed that can configure sound, or do I need some as yet undiscovered Debian tool to make sound work? https://wiki.debian.org/ALSA didn't seem to help at all. :-(
# dpkg-query | egrep 'alsa|libasou' ii alsamixergui 0.9.0rc2-1-9.1 amd64 graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver ii alsa-tools 1.0.28-1 amd64 Console based ALSA utilities for specific hardware ii alsa-tools-gui 1.0.28-1 amd64 GUI based ALSA utilities for specific hardware ii alsa-utils 1.0.28-1 amd64 Utilities for configuring and using ALSA ii libasound2:amd64 1.0.28-1 amd64 shared library for ALSA applications ii libasound2-data 1.0.28-1 all Configuration files and profiles for ALSA drivers ii libasound2-plugins:amd64 1.0.28-1+b1 amd64 ALSA library additional plugins
# lsmod snd_hda_codec_analog 13795 1 snd_hda_codec_generic 63181 1 snd_hda_codec_analog snd_hda_intel 26327 2 snd_hda_controller 26646 1 snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec 104463 4 snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller,snd_hda_codec_analog snd_hwdep 13148 1 snd_hda_codec snd_pcm 88662 4 snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller snd_timer 26614 2 snd_pcm snd 65244 9 snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_analog soundcore 13026 2 snd,snd_hda_codec
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 06:06:22 -0400 Felix Miata mrmazda@earthlink.net wrote:
Last Debian I installed on any of my own systems was Etch, until Friday, when I did a network minimal, then added TDE. In a broad sense, only one thing bothers me at this point, no sound. In openSUSE we have YaST2 for such things as sound configuration, but in Jessie/TDE I haven't found anything that helps. Trying to use Synaptic to figure it out isn't working, because its scroller is worthless - it has no buttons to scroll only a line at atime, and the scrollbar hopelessly overshoots trying to drag or click. TCC's Sound & Multimedia isn't producing any sound or any clues as to why not. SMplayer plays video but without sound. Is there some TDE tool not yet installed that can configure sound, or do I need some as yet undiscovered Debian tool to make sound work? https://wiki.debian.org/ALSA didn't seem to help at all. :-(
Invoke alsamixer from the command line and check to make sure that nothing's muted and it's pointing at the right soundcard--don't ask me why, but ALSA sometimes sets everything up muted, and it isn't unusual for an HD audio device to register as *two* devices, only one of which works.
E. Liddell
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On 07/12/2015 07:57 PM, E. Liddell wrote:
Invoke alsamixer from the command line and check to make sure that nothing's muted and it's pointing at the right soundcard--don't ask me why, but ALSA sometimes sets everything up muted, and it isn't unusual for an HD audio device to register as *two* devices, only one of which works.
E. Liddell
Yes, also have similar problems from time to time with ALSA, especially when moving from one computer to another. Cheers Michele
On Sunday 12 July 2015 11:57:28 E. Liddell wrote:
don't ask me why, but ALSA sometimes sets everything up muted
The logic is that someone might have headphones on or a loudspeaker turned up high and get deafened when/if sound came on unexpectedly loudly during an intall, so it is safe to leave people to turn the sound on knowingly. Don't shoot the messenger. ;-)
Sometimes unmuting in KMixer is enough.
The easiest way to sort it is with pavucontrol, but that means installing pulesaudio. <dons flameproof suti> ;-)
Lisi
E. Liddell composed on 2015-07-12 06:57 (UTC-0400):
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 06:06:22 -0400 Felix Miata wrote:
Last Debian I installed on any of my own systems was Etch, until Friday, when I did a network minimal, then added TDE. In a broad sense, only one thing bothers me at this point, no sound. In openSUSE we have YaST2 for such things as sound configuration, but in Jessie/TDE I haven't found anything that helps. Trying to use Synaptic to figure it out isn't working, because its scroller is worthless - it has no buttons to scroll only a line at atime, and the scrollbar hopelessly overshoots trying to drag or click. TCC's Sound & Multimedia isn't producing any sound or any clues as to why not. SMplayer plays video but without sound. Is there some TDE tool not yet installed that can configure sound, or do I need some as yet undiscovered Debian tool to make sound work? https://wiki.debian.org/ALSA didn't seem to help at all. :-(
Invoke alsamixer from the command line and check to make sure that nothing's muted and it's pointing at the right soundcard--don't ask me why, but ALSA sometimes sets everything up muted, and it isn't unusual for an HD audio device to register as *two* devices, only one of which works.
There must be something that didn't get installed.
openSUSE 13.2/KDE4 works right out of the box: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/alsamixer-os132-gx780.png
Same machine booted Jessie/R14: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/alsamixer-jessie-gx780.png
I don't see any material difference. Any other ideas (besides PA)?
On Sunday 12 July 2015 18:23:29 Felix Miata wrote:
E. Liddell composed on 2015-07-12 06:57 (UTC-0400):
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 06:06:22 -0400 Felix Miata wrote:
Last Debian I installed on any of my own systems was Etch, until Friday, when I did a network minimal, then added TDE. In a broad sense, only one thing bothers me at this point, no sound. In openSUSE we have YaST2 for such things as sound configuration, but in Jessie/TDE I haven't found anything that helps. Trying to use Synaptic to figure it out isn't working, because its scroller is worthless - it has no buttons to scroll only a line at atime, and the scrollbar hopelessly overshoots trying to drag or click. TCC's Sound & Multimedia isn't producing any sound or any clues as to why not. SMplayer plays video but without sound. Is there some TDE tool not yet installed that can configure sound, or do I need some as yet undiscovered Debian tool to make sound work? https://wiki.debian.org/ALSA didn't seem to help at all. :-(
Invoke alsamixer from the command line and check to make sure that nothing's muted and it's pointing at the right soundcard--don't ask me why, but ALSA sometimes sets everything up muted, and it isn't unusual for an HD audio device to register as *two* devices, only one of which works.
There must be something that didn't get installed.
openSUSE 13.2/KDE4 works right out of the box: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/alsamixer-os132-gx780.png
Same machine booted Jessie/R14: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/alsamixer-jessie-gx780.png
Someone, please - I am hopeless on sound technology. What does "line" tout court mean?
Lisi
Hi Lisi,
Someone, please - I am hopeless on sound technology. What does "line" tout court mean?
Lisi
"Line out" is an audio output intended to be fed into an amplifier. Its at a higher voltage level than a microphone, but a lower voltage level than a "Speaker output".
On Sunday 12 July 2015 20:06:56 Baron wrote:
Hi Lisi,
Someone, please - I am hopeless on sound technology. What does "line" tout court mean?
Lisi
"Line out" is an audio output intended to be fed into an amplifier. Its at a higher voltage level than a microphone, but a lower voltage level than a "Speaker output".
So "Line" means "line out". Thank you, Baron. It could have meant line in.
If it means line out, should it not be unmuted for there to be sound?
Lisi
Good Morning Lisi,
On Sunday 12 July 2015 22:05:47 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Sunday 12 July 2015 20:06:56 Baron wrote:
Hi Lisi,
Someone, please - I am hopeless on sound technology. What does "line" tout court mean?
Lisi
"Line out" is an audio output intended to be fed into an amplifier. Its at a higher voltage level than a microphone, but a lower voltage level than a "Speaker output".
So "Line" means "line out". Thank you, Baron. It could have meant line in.
If it means line out, should it not be unmuted for there to be sound?
Lisi
It doesn't normally say in or out unless its in the mainboard manual ! Depending upon the switches it seems it could be either. But yes I would unmute it regardless.
If its any help I did find that unmuting the sound in one place caused it to change to mute somewhere else. After that it gets very confusing because of the, in my case three, number of sound devices that it seems to find and they all appear to have some interaction even though you can select different settings for each one.
I played about for ages trying to get sound to work. When it did I left it alone. It was much more simple on my old machine, only one device on there.
On Monday 13 July 2015 10:25:40 Baron wrote:
Good Morning Lisi,
On Sunday 12 July 2015 22:05:47 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Sunday 12 July 2015 20:06:56 Baron wrote:
Hi Lisi,
Someone, please - I am hopeless on sound technology. What does "line" tout court mean?
Lisi
"Line out" is an audio output intended to be fed into an amplifier. Its at a higher voltage level than a microphone, but a lower voltage level than a "Speaker output".
So "Line" means "line out". Thank you, Baron. It could have meant line in.
If it means line out, should it not be unmuted for there to be sound?
Lisi
It doesn't normally say in or out unless its in the mainboard manual ! Depending upon the switches it seems it could be either. But yes I would unmute it regardless.
If its any help I did find that unmuting the sound in one place caused it to change to mute somewhere else. After that it gets very confusing because of the, in my case three, number of sound devices that it seems to find and they all appear to have some interaction even though you can select different settings for each one.
I played about for ages trying to get sound to work. When it did I left it alone. It was much more simple on my old machine, only one device on there.
Thanks, Baron.
Lisi
Felix Miata composed on 2015-07-12 13:23 (UTC-0400):
There must be something that didn't get installed.
This still seems to be the case. I got SMplayer and TCC test sound working after finally running
alsactl init
as root. I guess it was too late last night to see I missed doing it going through https://wiki.debian.org/ALSA (discovered around 14:00 -0400 Michael). Still I'm puzzled that the test sound works but none of the system notification sounds work. Mp3blaster cannot open sound device either. Aplay in Konsole is able to play the .wav files in /opt/trinity/share/sounds/. Could this be a TDE pre-release bug?
# aplay -l **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD1984A Analog [AD1984A Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 2: AD1984A Alt Analog [AD1984A Alt Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
This thread has become moot for now. Segfaulting trying to start TDE...new thread time.
Felix Miata composed on 2015-07-12 15:57 (UTC-0400):
Felix Miata composed on 2015-07-12 13:23 (UTC-0400):
There must be something that didn't get installed.
This still seems to be the case. I got SMplayer and TCC test sound working after finally running
alsactl init
as root. I guess it was too late last night to see I missed doing it going through https://wiki.debian.org/ALSA (discovered around 14:00 -0400 Michael). Still I'm puzzled that the test sound works but none of the system notification sounds work. Mp3blaster cannot open sound device either. Aplay in Konsole is able to play the .wav files in /opt/trinity/share/sounds/. Could this be a TDE pre-release bug?
# aplay -l **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD1984A Analog [AD1984A Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 2: AD1984A Alt Analog [AD1984A Alt Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
This thread has become moot for now. Segfaulting trying to start TDE...new thread time.
Found segfault problem: http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2477
Sound also works on Youtube in FF. So, can anyone think of a reason I shouldn't file an R14.0.1 TDE bug that, in addition to SMPlayer also making sound, TDE's own TCC test sound works, but no other TDE sounds?
On Monday 13 July 2015 07:16:20 Felix Miata wrote:
Felix Miata composed on 2015-07-12 15:57 (UTC-0400):
Felix Miata composed on 2015-07-12 13:23 (UTC-0400):
There must be something that didn't get installed.
This still seems to be the case. I got SMplayer and TCC test sound working after finally running
alsactl init
as root. I guess it was too late last night to see I missed doing it going through https://wiki.debian.org/ALSA (discovered around 14:00 -0400 Michael). Still I'm puzzled that the test sound works but none of the system notification sounds work. Mp3blaster cannot open sound device either. Aplay in Konsole is able to play the .wav files in /opt/trinity/share/sounds/. Could this be a TDE pre-release bug?
# aplay -l **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD1984A Analog [AD1984A Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 2: AD1984A Alt Analog [AD1984A Alt Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
This thread has become moot for now. Segfaulting trying to start TDE...new thread time.
Found segfault problem: http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2477
Sound also works on Youtube in FF. So, can anyone think of a reason I shouldn't file an R14.0.1 TDE bug that, in addition to SMPlayer also making sound, TDE's own TCC test sound works, but no other TDE sounds?
Are they turned on in TDEControl? I am sitting at a 3.5.13.2 machine, so cannot tell you exactly where it is. On mt machine it is KControl -> sound and multimedia -> System notifications -> play around with sound.
Lisi
On Sunday 12 July 2015 18:23:29 Felix Miata wrote:
E. Liddell composed on 2015-07-12 06:57 (UTC-0400):
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 06:06:22 -0400 Felix Miata wrote:
Last Debian I installed on any of my own systems was Etch, until Friday, when I did a network minimal, then added TDE. In a broad sense, only one thing bothers me at this point, no sound. In openSUSE we have YaST2 for such things as sound configuration, but in Jessie/TDE I haven't found anything that helps. Trying to use Synaptic to figure it out isn't working, because its scroller is worthless - it has no buttons to scroll only a line at atime, and the scrollbar hopelessly overshoots trying to drag or click. TCC's Sound & Multimedia isn't producing any sound or any clues as to why not. SMplayer plays video but without sound. Is there some TDE tool not yet installed that can configure sound, or do I need some as yet undiscovered Debian tool to make sound work? https://wiki.debian.org/ALSA didn't seem to help at all. :-(
Invoke alsamixer from the command line and check to make sure that nothing's muted and it's pointing at the right soundcard--don't ask me why, but ALSA sometimes sets everything up muted, and it isn't unusual for an HD audio device to register as *two* devices, only one of which works.
There must be something that didn't get installed.
openSUSE 13.2/KDE4 works right out of the box: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/alsamixer-os132-gx780.png
Same machine booted Jessie/R14: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/alsamixer-jessie-gx780.png
I don't see any material difference. Any other ideas (besides PA)?
"Line" is muted on Jessie. Try unmuting it. But Baron warns that soemthing else may then mute itself!
Lisi
Lisi Reisz composed on 2015-07-13 10:38 (UTC+0100):
openSUSE 13.2/KDE4 works right out of the box: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/alsamixer-os132-gx780.png
Same machine booted Jessie/R14: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/alsamixer-jessie-gx780.png
I don't see any material difference. Any other ideas (besides PA)?
"Line" is muted on Jessie. Try unmuting it. But Baron warns that soemthing else may then mute itself!
Reload to see current state (no improvement).
Lisi Reisz composed on 2015-07-13 09:17 (UTC+0100):
Sound also works on Youtube in FF. So, can anyone think of a reason I shouldn't file an R14.0.1 TDE bug that, in addition to SMPlayer also making sound, TDE's own TCC test sound works, but no other TDE sounds?
Are they turned on in TDEControl?
Who knows. They look like they are. I spent lebenty bazillion years fooling around in that panel.
I am sitting at a 3.5.13.2 machine, so cannot tell you exactly where it is. On mt machine it is KControl -> sound and multimedia -> System notifications -> play around with sound.
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/tccSounds-jessie-gx780.png
It bothers me that the play a sound icon is always gray, but it's both working and gray in KDE3, while all other panel icons in both KDE3 and TDE have some color other than gray.
On Monday 13 of July 2015 20:45:12 Felix Miata wrote:
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/tccSounds-jessie-gx780.png
It bothers me that the play a sound icon is always gray, but it's both working and gray in KDE3, while all other panel icons in both KDE3 and TDE have some color other than gray.
Click to the Player Settings, select the External Player, enter 'artsplay' and try if notifications plays.
Slávek Banko composed on 2015-07-13 22:06 (UTC+0200):
Felix Miata wrote:
It bothers me that the play a sound icon is always gray, but it's both working and gray in KDE3, while all other panel icons in both KDE3 and TDE have some color other than gray.
Click to the Player Settings, select the External Player, enter 'artsplay' and try if notifications plays.
That solved the problem! :-D
On Monday 13 of July 2015 22:38:39 Felix Miata wrote:
Slávek Banko composed on 2015-07-13 22:06 (UTC+0200):
Felix Miata wrote:
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/tccSounds-jessie-gx780.png
It bothers me that the play a sound icon is always gray, but it's both working and gray in KDE3, while all other panel icons in both KDE3 and TDE have some color other than gray.
Click to the Player Settings, select the External Player, enter 'artsplay' and try if notifications plays.
That solved the problem! :-D
Not exactly. Notification now playing, but players who use arts sound server remains silent. I once had the same thing happen after some update on Debian Wheezy, but before I could look to problem closer, after some subsequent update it corrected itself. Now I have the same problem on my old test laptop - so far I have not found the cause.
Slávek Banko wrote:
Not exactly. Notification now playing, but players who use arts sound server remains silent. I once had the same thing happen after some update on Debian Wheezy, but before I could look to problem closer, after some subsequent update it corrected itself. Now I have the same problem on my old test laptop - so far I have not found the cause.
if not using pulse, did you try asound and check the levels - unmute whatever is muted and relevant for you. On my notebook with decent intel/realtek sound card which has HDMI and PCH in/output I disabled the HDMI as it was listed as 1st device. Now only PCH is available and there is sound as usual.
If it is working partially look how the components are configured as sometime they use /dev/dsp* which blocks anything else of using the audio system. So when one application occupies the device nothing else can play.
regards
On Tuesday 14 of July 2015 12:54:07 deloptes wrote:
Slávek Banko wrote:
Not exactly. Notification now playing, but players who use arts sound server remains silent. I once had the same thing happen after some update on Debian Wheezy, but before I could look to problem closer, after some subsequent update it corrected itself. Now I have the same problem on my old test laptop - so far I have not found the cause.
if not using pulse, did you try asound and check the levels - unmute whatever is muted and relevant for you. On my notebook with decent intel/realtek sound card which has HDMI and PCH in/output I disabled the HDMI as it was listed as 1st device. Now only PCH is available and there is sound as usual.
If it is working partially look how the components are configured as sometime they use /dev/dsp* which blocks anything else of using the audio system. So when one application occupies the device nothing else can play.
regards
I assume you did not follow the previous discussion.
There was checking the settings values in mixer - all is ok. Then there was information that the test sound in settings of arts sound server plays properly. It also successfully verified to use artsplay - here it is interesting that artsplay also uses arts sound server. Just the other programs that use arts sound server remains silent.
On 12/07/2015 11:06, Felix Miata wrote:
Last Debian I installed on any of my own systems was Etch, until Friday, when I did a network minimal, then added TDE. In a broad sense, only one thing bothers me at this point, no sound. In openSUSE we have YaST2 for such things as sound configuration, but in Jessie/TDE I haven't found anything that helps. Trying to use Synaptic to figure it out isn't working, because its scroller is worthless - it has no buttons to scroll only a line at atime, and the scrollbar hopelessly overshoots trying to drag or click. TCC's Sound & Multimedia isn't producing any sound or any clues as to why not. SMplayer plays video but without sound. Is there some TDE tool not yet installed that can configure sound, or do I need some as yet undiscovered Debian tool to make sound work? https://wiki.debian.org/ALSA didn't seem to help at all. :-(
# dpkg-query | egrep 'alsa|libasou' ii alsamixergui 0.9.0rc2-1-9.1 amd64 graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver ii alsa-tools 1.0.28-1 amd64 Console based ALSA utilities for specific hardware ii alsa-tools-gui 1.0.28-1 amd64 GUI based ALSA utilities for specific hardware ii alsa-utils 1.0.28-1 amd64 Utilities for configuring and using ALSA ii libasound2:amd64 1.0.28-1 amd64 shared library for ALSA applications ii libasound2-data 1.0.28-1 all Configuration files and profiles for ALSA drivers ii libasound2-plugins:amd64 1.0.28-1+b1 amd64 ALSA library additional plugins
# lsmod snd_hda_codec_analog 13795 1 snd_hda_codec_generic 63181 1 snd_hda_codec_analog snd_hda_intel 26327 2 snd_hda_controller 26646 1 snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec 104463 4 snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller,snd_hda_codec_analog snd_hwdep 13148 1 snd_hda_codec snd_pcm 88662 4 snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller snd_timer 26614 2 snd_pcm snd 65244 9 snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_analog soundcore 13026 2 snd,snd_hda_codec
Have you tried 'alsactl init'?
Usually works for me, providing nothing is muted.
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