Hi,
Having been based on Hardy/KDE3 for some years I'm trying to build a new system with Wheezy and Trinity (KDE4 is hopeless on our thin clients!).
I see there's no official repository for Wheezy/Trinity so I tried the nightly builds but there are 'issues' with R14 so I'd like to try 3.5.13.1
What do I need in apt/sources.list to get 3.5.13.1 on Wheezy?
TIA
Am Freitag, 2. November 2012 schrieb Russell Brown:
Hi,
Having been based on Hardy/KDE3 for some years I'm trying to build a new system with Wheezy and Trinity (KDE4 is hopeless on our thin clients!).
I see there's no official repository for Wheezy/Trinity so I tried the nightly builds but there are 'issues' with R14 so I'd like to try 3.5.13.1
What do I need in apt/sources.list to get 3.5.13.1 on Wheezy?
TIA
This is in my sources.list:
# DEBIAN Repositories deb http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free
# Multimedia Zeugs deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free
# Trinity 3.5.13 deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian squeeze main #deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian squeeze main deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13... squeeze main #deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13... squeeze main deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu squeeze main deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu squeeze main deb http://depot-trinity.dotriver.eu/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/debian squeeze main
Quoth Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp.....
Am Freitag, 2. November 2012 schrieb Russell Brown:
Hi,
What do I need in apt/sources.list to get 3.5.13.1 on Wheezy?
Thanks for that but.....
This is in my sources.list:
# DEBIAN Repositories
<snip>
I just tried your sources.list verbatim (yes I did do an apt-get update) and when I try installing the packages as suggested on the Trinity Debian Installation wiki page I get:
#apt-get install desktop-base-trinity kde-trinity Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies: kde-trinity : Depends: kde-core-trinity (>= 5:47) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdeedu-trinity (>= 4:3.5.5) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdegames-trinity (>= 4:3.5.5) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdetoys-trinity (>= 4:3.5.5) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdeaccessibility-trinity (>= 4:3.5.5) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdeaddons-trinity (>= 4:3.5.5) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdeadmin-trinity (>= 4:3.5.5) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdeartwork-trinity (>= 4:3.5.5) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdegraphics-trinity (>= 4:3.5.5) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdemultimedia-trinity (>= 4:3.5.5) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdenetwork-trinity (>= 4:3.5.5) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdepim-trinity (>= 4:3.5.5) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
If I try installing kde-core-trinity I get:
#apt-get install kde-core-trinity Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies: kde-core-trinity : Depends: kdebase-trinity (>= 4:3.5.5) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdelibs-trinity (>= 4:3.5.5) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
Extending the list to include kdebase-trinity and kdelibs-trinity I get:
# apt-get install kde-core-trinity kdebase-trinity kdelibs-trinity Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies: kdebase-trinity : Depends: kdebase-trinity-bin (>= 4:3.5.13-1debian0+ax3~squeeze) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdebase-data-trinity (>= 4:3.5.13-1debian0+ax3~squeeze) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity (>= 4:3.5.13-1debian0+ax3~squeeze) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdeprint-trinity (>= 4:3.5.13-1debian0+ax3~squeeze) but it is not going to be installed Depends: ksmserver-trinity (>= 4:3.5.13-1debian0+ax3~squeeze) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kwin-trinity (>= 4:3.5.13-1debian0+ax3~squeeze) but it is not going to be installed Recommends: kdm-trinity (>= 4:3.5.13-1debian0+ax3~squeeze) but it is not going to be installed Recommends: kdebase-runtime-data-common-trinity but it is not going to be installed kdelibs-trinity : Depends: kdelibs4c2a-trinity (>= 4:3.5.13-1debian0+ax5~squeeze) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdelibs-data-trinity (>= 4:3.5.13-1debian0+ax5~squeeze) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
Hmmmm.... this seems to be a downward spiral :-(
Just for clarification, I'm trying to install Trinity 3.5.13.1 on a plain Debian Wheezy system without any pre-installed grahical environment (no Gnome or KDE) so I end up with a 'pure' trinity based system.
On Friday 02 November 2012 04:16:38 you wrote:
Quoth Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp.....
Am Freitag, 2. November 2012 schrieb Russell Brown:
Hi,
What do I need in apt/sources.list to get 3.5.13.1 on Wheezy?
Thanks for that but.....
This is in my sources.list:
# DEBIAN Repositories
<snip>
I just tried your sources.list verbatim (yes I did do an apt-get update) and when I try installing the packages as suggested on the Trinity Debian Installation wiki page I get:
snip
Just for clarification, I'm trying to install Trinity 3.5.13.1 on a plain Debian Wheezy system without any pre-installed grahical environment (no Gnome or KDE) so I end up with a 'pure' trinity based system.
I have not tried TDE 3.5.13.1 on Wheezy, That said I would use a official Debian mirror for Wheezy only, use netselect if needed. And only the http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~ source.
I stopped using Debian multimedia,at least for an initial install and slavek-banko/axis/~ source. The slavek-banko/axis/~ was the source for updates before 3.5.13.1 was released, not sure if it is still needed.
This is in my sources.list:
# DEBIAN Repositories deb http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free
# Multimedia Zeugs deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free
# Trinity 3.5.13 deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian squeeze main #deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian squeeze main deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13... squeeze main #deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13... squeeze main deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu squeeze main deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu squeeze main deb http://depot-trinity.dotriver.eu/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/debian squeeze main
Sid sources are in your list! Unless you did some manual apt-preferences or apt-pinning configs, you get sid, not wheezy! if you already had some wheezy you get a mix, harder to maintain than straight sid.
@ Russell, apt-get -f install might help, try that first. Now you are probably running amixed testing/unstable system, you will learn much more about fixing apt conflicts!
And watch out with deb-multimedia, there has always been stuff (e.g. ffmpeg) in there that can cause dependency conflicts with official Debian packages. It's better to install only needed selected packages then disable it. Dist-upgrading on testing/sid with that repo enabled is asking for trouble.
I have not tried TDE 3.5.13.1 on Wheezy, That said I would use a official Debian mirror for Wheezy only
Do you know exactly what has changed in TDE 3.5.13 that no longer requires some squeeze packages? Last time I installed wheezy+ 3.5.13 they definitely were needed (I don't have the list to hand right now of exactly what packages)
David
Oh, I forgot the sid part. Just ignore it, I need it for the realtime kernel (and have some pinning ..)
Nik
Am Samstag, 3. November 2012 schrieb David Hare:
This is in my sources.list:
# DEBIAN Repositories deb http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free
# Multimedia Zeugs deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free
# Trinity 3.5.13 deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian squeeze main #deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian squeeze main deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5 .13/debian squeeze main #deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5 .13/debian squeeze main deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu squeeze main deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu squeeze main deb http://depot-trinity.dotriver.eu/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/debian squeeze main
Sid sources are in your list! Unless you did some manual apt-preferences or apt-pinning configs, you get sid, not wheezy! if you already had some wheezy you get a mix, harder to maintain than straight sid.
@ Russell, apt-get -f install might help, try that first. Now you are probably running amixed testing/unstable system, you will learn much more about fixing apt conflicts!
And watch out with deb-multimedia, there has always been stuff (e.g. ffmpeg) in there that can cause dependency conflicts with official Debian packages. It's better to install only needed selected packages then disable it. Dist-upgrading on testing/sid with that repo enabled is asking for trouble.
I have not tried TDE 3.5.13.1 on Wheezy, That said I would use a official Debian mirror for Wheezy only
Do you know exactly what has changed in TDE 3.5.13 that no longer requires some squeeze packages? Last time I installed wheezy+ 3.5.13 they definitely were needed (I don't have the list to hand right now of exactly what packages)
David
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OK.... I tried this from a different angle.
I installed Squeeze (Network Install ISO) selecting only Print Server, SSH Server, Laptop and Standard System Utilities from the software selection menu.
Then I added the Squeeze repositories as documented on the Trinity WIKI.
# apt-get install desktop-base-trinity kde-trinity
Worked fine so I had Trinity 3.5.13.1 on Squeeze.
Then I changed the debian repositories in sources.list to be wheezy but left the Trinity ones at squeeze.
# apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade
Did the job and I'm now running 3.5.13.1 on Wheezy.
There are some 'curiosities' (like the tdm being called kdm-trinity and the config stuff lurking in /etc/trinity/kdm where I'm sure when I tried the nightly builds it was /etc/trinity/tdm) but it is working.
Might be useful info for someone else.
On 02/11/12 09:58, Russell Brown wrote:
Hi,
Having been based on Hardy/KDE3 for some years I'm trying to build a new system with Wheezy and Trinity (KDE4 is hopeless on our thin clients!).
I see there's no official repository for Wheezy/Trinity so I tried the nightly builds but there are 'issues' with R14 so I'd like to try 3.5.13.1
What do I need in apt/sources.list to get 3.5.13.1 on Wheezy?
TIA
While installing TDE you need squeeze apt sources enabled, in addition to wheezy, for a (very few) dependencies which are not in wheezy.
David