17 Aug
2023
17 Aug
'23
3:44 a.m.
(It seems like this problem only just arose in the weeks since the middle of June,
maybe more recently, but at least a month ago.)
I often find them replaced by other characters, as in the attachment. The SS is
from Tumbleweed, but it happens also in Leap, and also in KDE3's Konsole. Is this
an absence of some specific font? If not, what needs to be differently configured
for Konsole to always use boxdraw characters when an app or utility is supposed to
be using them when used in Konsole?
What follows is all from one multiboot PC:
# grep RETT /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="openSUSE Tumbleweed"
# wpctl status
PipeWire 'pipewire-0' [0.3.75, root@ab250, cookie:1948030365]
ââ Clients:
31. WirePlumber [0.3.75, root@ab250, pid:850]
32. WirePlumber [export] [0.3.75, root@ab250, pid:850]
47. PipeWire ALSA [tdeinit] [0.3.75, root@ab250, pid:1086]
48. wpctl [0.3.75, root@ab250, pid:1371]
Audio
ââ Devices:
â 38. Built-in Audio [alsa]
â
ââ Sinks:
â * 39. Built-in Audio Analog Stereo [vol: 0.46]
â
ââ Sink endpoints:
â
ââ Sources:
â 40. Built-in Audio Analog Stereo [vol: 1.00]
â
ââ Source endpoints:
â
ââ Streams:
Video
ââ Devices:
â
ââ Sinks:
â
ââ Sink endpoints:
â
ââ Sources:
â
ââ Source endpoints:
â
ââ Streams:
Settings
ââ Default Configured Node Names:
# systemd-analyze critical-chain
The time when unit became active or started is printed after the "@" character.
The time the unit took to start is printed after the "+" character.
graphical.target @4.115s
`-multi-user.target @4.114s
`-kbdsettings.service @2.052s +2.062s
`-basic.target @2.045s
`-sockets.target @2.045s
`-telnet.socket @2.044s
`-sysinit.target @2.014s
`-wtmpdb-update-boot.service @1.802s +138ms
`-systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service @1.724s +43ms
`-local-fs.target @1.723s
`-run-credentials-systemd\x2dtmpfiles\x2dsetup.service.mount @1.728s
`-local-fs-pre.target @1.105s
`-systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service @864ms +66ms
`-kmod-static-nodes.service @524ms +80ms
`-systemd-journald.socket
`-system.slice
`--.slice
#
# grep RETT /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="Fedora Linux 38 (Thirty Eight)"
# wpctl status
PipeWire 'pipewire-0' [0.3.77, root@ab250, cookie:1539572309]
└─ Clients:
31. WirePlumber [0.3.77, root@ab250, pid:849]
32. WirePlumber [export] [0.3.77, root@ab250, pid:849]
47. artsd [0.3.77, root@ab250, pid:1026]
53. PipeWire ALSA [tdeinit] [0.3.77, root@ab250, pid:1088]
54. wpctl [0.3.77, root@ab250, pid:1240]
Audio
├─ Devices:
│ 38. Built-in Audio [alsa]
│
├─ Sinks:
│ * 39. Built-in Audio Analog Stereo [vol: 0.46]
│
├─ Sink endpoints:
│
├─ Sources:
│ 40. Built-in Audio Analog Stereo [vol: 1.00]
│
├─ Source endpoints:
│
└─ Streams:
Video
├─ Devices:
│
├─ Sinks:
│
├─ Sink endpoints:
│
├─ Sources:
│
├─ Source endpoints:
│
└─ Streams:
Settings
└─ Default Configured Node Names:
#
# grep RETT /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)"
# wpctl status
Could not connect to PipeWire
# systemd-analyze critical-chain
...
graphical.target @2.171s
└─watchdog.service @2.156s +14ms
└─multi-user.target @2.137s
└─smbd.service @2.026s +110ms
└─nmbd.service @1.779s +246ms
└─basic.target @1.748s
└─sockets.target @1.748s
└─dbus.socket @1.747s
└─sysinit.target @1.737s
└─systemd-timesyncd.service @1.653s +81ms
└─systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service @1.550s +43ms
└─local-fs.target @1.493s
└─run-credentials-systemd\x2dtmpfiles\x2dsetup.service.mount
@1.562s
└─local-fs-pre.target @849ms
└─keyboard-setup.service @313ms +364ms
└─systemd-journald.socket @295ms
└─system.slice @253ms
└─-.slice @253ms
#
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Felix Miata
17 Aug
17 Aug
6:47 a.m.
It's an encoding problem. Try this:
$ LANG=C tree /tmp/
$ LANG=LANG=de_AT.UTF-8 tree /tmp/
The last command gives fine ascii art on UTF-8 terminals, but "funny" result on
ISO... consoles.
Same happens for other commands.
Nik
Anno domini 2023 Wed, 16 Aug 23:44:29 -0400
Felix Miata via tde-users scripsit:
(It seems like this problem only just arose in the
weeks since the middle of June,
maybe more recently, but at least a month ago.)
I often find them replaced by other characters, as in the attachment. The SS is
from Tumbleweed, but it happens also in Leap, and also in KDE3's Konsole. Is this
an absence of some specific font? If not, what needs to be differently configured
for Konsole to always use boxdraw characters when an app or utility is supposed to
be using them when used in Konsole?
What follows is all from one multiboot PC:
# grep RETT /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="openSUSE Tumbleweed"
# wpctl status
PipeWire 'pipewire-0' [0.3.75, root@ab250, cookie:1948030365]
ââ Clients:
31. WirePlumber [0.3.75, root@ab250, pid:850]
32. WirePlumber [export] [0.3.75, root@ab250, pid:850]
47. PipeWire ALSA [tdeinit] [0.3.75, root@ab250, pid:1086]
48. wpctl [0.3.75, root@ab250, pid:1371]
Audio
ââ Devices:
â 38. Built-in Audio [alsa]
â
ââ Sinks:
â * 39. Built-in Audio Analog Stereo [vol: 0.46]
â
ââ Sink endpoints:
â
ââ Sources:
â 40. Built-in Audio Analog Stereo [vol: 1.00]
â
ââ Source endpoints:
â
ââ Streams:
Video
ââ Devices:
â
ââ Sinks:
â
ââ Sink endpoints:
â
ââ Sources:
â
ââ Source endpoints:
â
ââ Streams:
Settings
ââ Default Configured Node Names:
# systemd-analyze critical-chain
The time when unit became active or started is printed after the "@"
character.
The time the unit took to start is printed after the "+" character.
graphical.target @4.115s
`-multi-user.target @4.114s
`-kbdsettings.service @2.052s +2.062s
`-basic.target @2.045s
`-sockets.target @2.045s
`-telnet.socket @2.044s
`-sysinit.target @2.014s
`-wtmpdb-update-boot.service @1.802s +138ms
`-systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service @1.724s +43ms
`-local-fs.target @1.723s
`-run-credentials-systemd\x2dtmpfiles\x2dsetup.service.mount @1.728s
`-local-fs-pre.target @1.105s
`-systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service @864ms +66ms
`-kmod-static-nodes.service @524ms +80ms
`-systemd-journald.socket
`-system.slice
`--.slice
#
# grep RETT /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="Fedora Linux 38 (Thirty Eight)"
# wpctl status
PipeWire 'pipewire-0' [0.3.77, root@ab250, cookie:1539572309]
└─ Clients:
31. WirePlumber [0.3.77, root@ab250, pid:849]
32. WirePlumber [export] [0.3.77, root@ab250, pid:849]
47. artsd [0.3.77, root@ab250, pid:1026]
53. PipeWire ALSA [tdeinit] [0.3.77, root@ab250, pid:1088]
54. wpctl [0.3.77, root@ab250, pid:1240]
Audio
├─ Devices:
│ 38. Built-in Audio [alsa]
│
├─ Sinks:
│ * 39. Built-in Audio Analog Stereo [vol: 0.46]
│
├─ Sink endpoints:
│
├─ Sources:
│ 40. Built-in Audio Analog Stereo [vol: 1.00]
│
├─ Source endpoints:
│
└─ Streams:
Video
├─ Devices:
│
├─ Sinks:
│
├─ Sink endpoints:
│
├─ Sources:
│
├─ Source endpoints:
│
└─ Streams:
Settings
└─ Default Configured Node Names:
#
# grep RETT /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)"
# wpctl status
Could not connect to PipeWire
# systemd-analyze critical-chain
...
graphical.target @2.171s
└─watchdog.service @2.156s +14ms
└─multi-user.target @2.137s
└─smbd.service @2.026s +110ms
└─nmbd.service @1.779s +246ms
└─basic.target @1.748s
└─sockets.target @1.748s
└─dbus.socket @1.747s
└─sysinit.target @1.737s
└─systemd-timesyncd.service @1.653s +81ms
└─systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service @1.550s +43ms
└─local-fs.target @1.493s
└─run-credentials-systemd\x2dtmpfiles\x2dsetup.service.mount
@1.562s
└─local-fs-pre.target @849ms
└─keyboard-setup.service @313ms +364ms
└─systemd-journald.socket @295ms
└─system.slice @253ms
└─-.slice @253ms
#
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18 Aug
18 Aug
1:39 a.m.
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users composed on 2023-08-17 08:47 (UTC+0200):
It's an encoding problem. Try this:
Definitely was!
$ LANG=C tree /tmp/
$ LANG=LANG=de_AT.UTF-8 tree /tmp/
The last command gives fine ascii art on UTF-8
terminals, but "funny" result on ISO... consoles.
Same happens for other commands.
I still don't know what actually changed. As of last November, when ~/.bashrc was
last written, it contained:
export LANG=en_US
Either removing it, or changing it to:
export LANG=en_US.UTF-8
removes the problem, but tells me nothing about whatever changed in recent weeks
that surfaced the problem. /etc/locale.conf has the same content before and after
the upgrade from 15.4 to 15.5. :p
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Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
based on faith, not based on science.
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
Felix Miata
6:35 a.m.
New subject: I want my boxdrawing characters [OT]
On 2023-08-17 01:47:25 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote:
It's an encoding problem. Try this:
$ LANG=C tree /tmp/
$ LANG=LANG=de_AT.UTF-8 tree /tmp/
The last command gives fine ascii art on UTF-8 terminals, but "funny"
result on ISO... consoles.
Same happens for other commands.
Nik
Anno domini 2023 Wed, 16 Aug 23:44:29 -0400
Felix Miata via tde-users scripsit:
> (It seems like this problem only just arose in the weeks since the middle
> of June, maybe more recently, but at least a month ago.)
>
> I often find them replaced by other characters, as in the attachment. The
> SS is from Tumbleweed, but it happens also in Leap, and also in KDE3's
> Konsole. Is this an absence of some specific font? If not, what needs to
> be differently configured for Konsole to always use boxdraw characters
> when an app or utility is supposed to be using them when used in Konsole?
>
> What follows is all from one multiboot PC:
>
> # grep RETT /etc/os-release
> PRETTY_NAME="openSUSE Tumbleweed"
> # wpctl status
> PipeWire 'pipewire-0' [0.3.75, root@ab250, cookie:1948030365]
> ââ Clients:
> 31. WirePlumber [0.3.75, root@ab250,
[snip]
I often see stuff like this in emails. I suspect that they have been
composed on Windows, which uses code pages instead of UTF-8. kmail has
settings in Configure => Appearance, Message Window, but I'm afraid to tinker
with them; the kmail handbook has no entries for Message List or Message
Window.
Leslie
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Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 (x86_64)
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